Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread

[wiso4151]

@ Dagreyon For me the important part is to get views that don't get videos removed and don't get views removed. And since people who use proxies as you say and sell views form YouTube watch page that are safe and won't get videos banned I am in.

The mots important thing for anyone here who buys views is that the videos don't get deleted and that the views are safe. And you can say that your views are form real people but since your views get videos deleted than your views are just bad and that's it. I don't care if it's real or it is proxy as long as the views are safe I am ok with it.

So for you to keep selling your embedded views that get every video deleted or removed by YouTube instead of switching to watch page views it's your problem but it's not the right way to go.

People need safe views and you can't offer that because as I said before selling 90% embedded views on 1 video will alert YouTube in to deleting those videos that's just the way it is at the moment. You tube is no targeting you YouTube is targeting sellers who sell cheap EMBEDDED views with high retention. So I can assure you that you can never be safe if you keep selling 90% embedded views you need to combine it at least with some YouTube watch page views if you don't and keep selling this embedded views you won't last long.

I bought 5000 high retention views for my video. It got over 200.000 natural views in 1 week and after this week youtube deleted the video. How, if the most views were legit(watch page) and not embedded views ?

 

[amitbhatt89]

Do you work for YouTube? If not, where are you getting this information? How can you be sure it's the fact the views are embedded that's causing the issue? You seem to know how I do things and how YT does things, yet you don't know me, nor do you know how YT does things, I assume. With that said, everything you say is speculation, nothing is factual. Kind of like you claiming we don't update our stuff when we constantly do. As if I'm trying to get my clients videos banned, as if we aren't working non-stop to try to prevent it.

We use real traffic, meaning we can't do watch page views. I've told you this literally 5 times yet you seem to never listen. They can do watch page with proxies because they control the user, you can't send a real viewer to a YouTube video and have it count, it doesn't work that way. I don't expect you to understand it as it's complicated, but take my word for it and move on, because watch page is out of the question for real traffic. HOWEVER, we're already building a watch page system for those of you who want those views. Its going to take a bit, but if that's what YT wants, thats what they get.

I know for a fact they are not just banning because the views are embedded views. There are hundreds of millions, maybe even billions of views delivered from embedded videos every single day, so that is no gauge for them to ban videos, or they would be taking our legit videos too. Any big website could take a video with 0 views and it could get views, so then what, they would ban that video? No. That's not what is happening, but I don't know exactly what is and that's why we're constantly testing and tweaking and then don't have issues for a couple months and then it comes back. Its a cat and mouse game that we are playing, but it will take some time for things to be 100% perfect the way they want it.

You sure do like to speculate and assume a lot with no facts or proof to back your claims up. If you don't purchase my views, stay out of my thread. Your assumptions are way off and illogical, for you to think that we don't try to make changes to prevent bans and for you to now say that just because its embedded views is what causes the bans...

Watch Page here we come.

My video got deleted again due to "view count gaming"


should i stop purchasing views for now and wait till you come back with stable views or should i exit ?

clint is online but not responding my messages on skype so i have to post this here to let you know.

now scaring to purchase views for my old videos considering views are not real as per yt :sad:

 

[rap8557]

i've been a long time customer of qqtube and i don't have problems with "view count gaming" as long as i made my money back with profits its all good to me. But for now views are kinda slow.

To all haters, remember that you are doing blackhat to your videos even if your videos are legit. "Buying views is blackhat" so expect negative results.

If you want your videos to stay there forever then "DO NOT BUY VIEWS" else do the SEO on it.

 

[amitbhatt89]

i've been a long time customer of qqtube and i don't have problems with "view count gaming" as long as i made my money back with profits its all good to me. But for now views are kinda slow.

To all haters, remember that you are doing blackhat to your videos even if your videos are legit. "Buying views is blackhat" so expect negative results.

If you want your videos to stay there forever then "DO NOT BUY VIEWS" else do the SEO on it.

Same here i am old customer of qqtube. Have more than 30 orders on qqtube and still counting.
Surf some older posts of mine and you can see positive only comments from me.

But when there are something going not normal it should be come into notice to seller. As i got two videos removed due to view count gaming. so its important for me to know if views are still not stable so before ordering further.
Also i wrote first on skype and not got replied.

"I AM NOT HATER" , this is only service providing and was provided views when all other sellers kicked out by yt.
And if we talking about blackhating or seo thingy, i think almost all know that yt not allowed to purchase views, and it would be more better if you leave this stuff on seller and buyer only. Nobody ask your sweet advice.
So let seller speak.

 

[blackcoffee1994]

I bought 5000 high retention views for my video. It got over 200.000 natural views in 1 week and after this week youtube deleted the video. How, if the most views were legit(watch page) and not embedded views ?

Valuable information. But seriously, do your videos have any copyright problems?
I am really concerned about this threat, so please forgive for me if I talk too much.
For the right purposes only.

 

[amitbhatt89]

Since i got replied by clint on skype and issued seems solved now

so over and out from here , thanks for quick support

 

[Paradox2014]

Hi ClintW,

I have replied to your message via the website with approx 14 Videos that were all removed for violation of TOS4 - Viewcount gaming.

Ticket no #8124.

Unfortunately, i had four more deleted today which had survived the previous wave and were doing well, YT caught up with them in the end.

EDIT: Refund received but to my account rather than my Paypal as i requested.

 

[ClintW]

Hi ClintW,

I have replied to your message via the website with approx 14 Videos that were all removed for violation of TOS4 - Viewcount gaming.

Ticket no #8124.

Unfortunately, i had four more deleted today which had survived the previous wave and were doing well, YT caught up with them in the end.

EDIT: Refund received but to my account rather than my Paypal as i requested.

I just responded to you in the ticket and will get this squared away momentarily, I admittedly did overlook your request but hope I have sufficiently rectified this mistake!

 

[YTKing]

Videos are getting deleted within 24 hours. I don't mind videos deletion but not like this.
80% of my videos got deleted and when I tried to refund the money, it only refunded less than 10% of the order's price.
Don't get me wrong, I like this service but they must fix something.

 

[ClintW]

Videos are getting deleted within 24 hours. I don't mind videos deletion but not like this.
80% of my videos got deleted and when I tried to refund the money, it only refunded less than 10% of the order's price.
Don't get me wrong, I like this service but they must fix something.
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I understand your frustration and apologize for the inconvenience.

Please message me or issue a ticket with the deleted submission URLs and we will get you squared away.
Please include the submission URLs for the refunds that did not provide the entire refund amount as well.

 

[willtx]

Unfortunately we were hit with a massive ban wave. (Used low-risk high retention country targeted usa only) views. While QQ Tube is amazing with support im afraid ill be throwing in the towel until this service is either private or fixed. Been through 4 ban waves in less than 2 weeks so It looks like were only getting worse.

 

[AndoG]

@ Dagreyon Of course I have proof if I did not have proof I would not say it would I. I used many view providers and got many videos deleted but never lost 1 video that had YouTube watch page views. So that is my proof losing all the videos that were form embedded websites and not losing 1 video that used to have watch page views. So what more proof do I need?

As for you to start using watch page views I would really applaud that because as said that is the only safe way to sell views. So I am happy that you decided to use watch page views after I asked you so many times to do because as said it's the safest method at the moment.

 

[AndoG]

I bought 5000 high retention views for my video. It got over 200.000 natural views in 1 week and after this week youtube deleted the video. How, if the most views were legit(watch page) and not embedded views ?

It doesn't matter what yon get after getting the 5K embedded views because YouTube tags your video when the video gets so many embedded views with very high retention watch time. So it's not like YouTube checks your video later or something. It already tags your video so that when they active the ban wave your video automatically gets removed even if you already have a lot of organic views.

I had the same happen to me I had almost 10 videos were I used qqtube views on and they got a lot of organic views and got to the first page of YouTube but when the ban wave came I lost all my videos so. It really doesn't matter if you get real views or not it will get flagged by YouTube as soon as you start getting the views from qqtube.

 

[Paradox2014]

Of course I have proof if I did not have proof I would not say it would I. I used many view providers and got many videos deleted but never lost 1 video that had YouTube watch page views. So that is my proof losing all the videos that were form embedded websites and not losing 1 video that used to have watch page views. So what more proof do I need?

As for you to start using watch page views I would really applaud that because as said that is the only safe way to sell views. So I am happy that you decided to use watch page views after I asked you so many times to do because as said it's the safest method at the moment.

I agree with you, as i posted a few pages back about the same thing. I don't know the full technical ins and outs of the process and i don't pretend to do so but from the numerous videos i have had removed (approx 30) they all had 99+% embedded views. When you also look at the websites as well where the videos were embedded, it becomes clear that people on those sites would not watch my type of video. The TOS4 not only mentions using bots and proxies for views etc etc but it goes on about the fact your video should only be marketed to people who are actually interested in your video. The analytics list every website; dog lovers and horse groomers and so on, will unlikely be interested in COD and other gaming videos.

I have used numerous suppliers so its not just this seller by any stretch of imagination. YT have just decided to pull the videos of those with high embedded views, high retention and probably those, like me who are fairly new to YT. Some people with high embedded views don't ever have an issue but perhaps they have a fair percentage of natural views mixed in. With my videos they were all pretty much embedded views and even though they go on to be successfull with higher natural views also, they still get removed.

Its a right pain...

 

[reoman]

It doesn?t matter what yon get after getting the 5K embedded views because YouTube tags your video when the video gets so many embedded views with very high retention watch time. So it?s not like YouTube checks your video later or something. It already tags your video so that when they active the ban wave your video automatically gets removed even if you already have a lot of organic views.

I had the same happen to me I had almost 10 videos were I used qqtube views on and they got a lot of organic views and got to the first page of YouTube but when the ban wave came I lost all my videos so. It really doesn?t matter if you get real views or not it will get flagged by YouTube as soon as you start getting the views from qqtube.

If that were true you could take down any video. I have tried to get videos with lots of channel authority removed, but yet they stay up. Qqtube has been great for all my big clients, (fortune 500 companies, major rappers, etc) I start boosting their videos that only have a few hundred views, and they stay up just fine.

Now when some random Joe comes to me with 100k natural views, i send him 5,000 views, he has a channel with 100 subscribers, then the video gets removed. I think it has to due with channel authority, more than the video itself.

It would be really cool if Dag kept his current views, made a 3rd option, "very high risk views, please be nice to your fellow human beings and don't use for malicious purposes, if you see a video that has been using trueviews feel free to submit free of charge".

Which is why deletes are happening in the first place. Youtube wants to sell views, they don't want you selling views.


YouTube, which declined to comment, sees nothing wrong with encouraging channels to promote their shows with advertising?just like every other medium. Officials note that users can skip TrueView ads after five seconds, so anybody who?s electing to sit through more than five seconds is likely pretty interested in that content. Plus, TrueView ads are delivered based on keywords purchased via an auction; YouTube officials insist there would be no way to buy enough views to crack the top 10 rankings. A source close to YouTube called the idea that you can "game" the platform "nonsense."
One creator agreed. Doing some back-of-the-envelope math, he estimated that generating the level of views to make a big difference in the rankings might cost a channel $100,000 a week.

http://www.adweek.com/news/technology/are-views-youtube-s-trueview-ads-true-views-144442

LOL

But on a real note..

I wonder if you spent $5 with trueviews and $5 with qqtube, if your video would still get deleted then.

 

[blackcoffee1994]

QUOTE=AndoG;7007245]...YouTube tags your video when the video gets so many embedded views with very high retention watch time. So it?s not like YouTube checks your video later or something...

QUOTE=Paradox2014;7007441]Some people with high embedded views don't ever have an issue but perhaps they have a fair percentage of natural views mixed in.

 

[kideze]

Can You do Comment likes?

 

[videouploader]

urgent!!!! In need moderator help about this guys service - i ask him not to do the work just 30 minutes of buying his service & even posted support ticket on top still he has done double work in 1 day ---

 

[videouploader]

more & more views are keep coming please stop it right now

 

[videouploader]

more & more views are keep coming please stop it right now

more & more views are keep coming please stop it right now


more & more views are keep coming please stop it right now


more & more views are keep coming please stop it right now


more & more views are keep coming please stop it right now

more & more views are keep coming please stop it right now