Bing it On! (Bing vs. Google)

They where running ads for that a while back on TV.
 
google seems less relevant these days. if you search about anything related to youtube you just get really random videos. all these updates not working for unpopular terms. going to try use bing more
 
Bing controls 31% of the US search market, not sure what you're talking about

I don't know how true that is? 2 small sites of mine, ranking #1 for their main keyword . The US traffic is like 5% from bing and 95% from google. though its a very small sample space.
 
I see you've never taken a statistics course. 1000 people has a less than 5% uncertainty.

Do not agree. Depends on the samples selected. study is done by one of the competitors, so quality of sample space is always questionable.
 
I don't know how true that is? 2 small sites of mine, ranking #1 for their main keyword . The US traffic is like 5% from bing and 95% from google. though its a very small sample space.

Just because you have no idea how to do keyword searches on bing doesn't mean they don't own the marketshare. It's a faulty assumption to think that a keyword on Google that's popular is the the same keyword on Bing that's popular... rarely is this the case.

Also, Bing controlling 31% is verifiably correct. There are terms on Bing that generate 70-80% the numbers they do on Google... and others that generate 5-10%

Do not agree. Depends on the samples selected. study is done by one of the competitors, so quality of sample space is always questionable.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The uncertainty = the sqrt(sample size). Changing the rhetoric to seem like you said "the sample wasn't non-biased" doesn't change your original claim that "it's not a large enough sample".
 
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Just because you have no idea how to do keyword searches on bing doesn't mean they don't own the marketshare. It's a faulty assumption to think that a keyword on Google that's popular is the the same keyword on Bing that's popular... rarely is this the case.

Also, Bing controlling 31% is verifiably correct. There are terms on Bing that generate 70-80% the numbers they do on Google... and others that generate 5-10%


You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The uncertainty = the sqrt(sample size). Changing the rhetoric to seem like you said "the sample wasn't non-biased" doesn't change your original claim that "it's not a large enough sample".

R.I.P. statistics.

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and as your name suggests, you are really a Expert Peon.
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R.I.P. statistics.

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Better to not post like this and let people think you don't understand about the statistics than to post like this and prove it.

He is correct that sqrt(N) will give you an approximation of the statistical uncertainty. To get the percent uncertainty is then a simple case of taking the reciprocal.

Don't take my word for it, Google it...or in this case Bing it!
 
Just because you have no idea how to do keyword searches on bing doesn't mean they don't own the marketshare. It's a faulty assumption to think that a keyword on Google that's popular is the the same keyword on Bing that's popular... rarely is this the case.

Also, Bing controlling 31% is verifiably correct. There are terms on Bing that generate 70-80% the numbers they do on Google... and others that generate 5-10%


You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The uncertainty = the sqrt(sample size). Changing the rhetoric to seem like you said "the sample wasn't non-biased" doesn't change your original claim that "it's not a large enough sample".

There is one major caveat to ComScore's monthly results. The stats don't include searches from mobile devices, which even ComScore says account for as much as 25 to 30 percent of all Internet search traffic. Without or without mobile devices included, though, Google still holds the dominant share. source? Google
 
I see you've never taken a statistics course. 1000 people has a less than 5% uncertainty. If you want to insult their methodology, that's another issue entirely.

You don't need a degree in statistics to know that marketers ALWAYS fake statistics. A recent survey shows that 99% of participants agreed with the previous statement.

I also know that you can never make a blanket statement tying the size of the surveyed population and the uncertainty. What if all 1000 participants work for Microsoft?

I did a fast poll and it shows that 4 out of 5 BHW Members think that you are bullshitting, and trying to pretend to have academic knowledge that you do not. And also, 9 out of 10 BHW Members think I'm brilliantly funny.
 
Tried Bing It On and typed in five search terms related to one of my niche and Google presented better results 3 out of the 5 times. When searching certain informational terms, all Bing returned was brand sites which weren't really relevant to my search. I would have to say that Google still has the edge when it comes to search.
 
You don't need a degree in statistics to know that marketers ALWAYS fake statistics. A recent survey shows that 99% of participants agreed with the previous statement.

I also know that you can never make a blanket statement tying the size of the surveyed population and the uncertainty. What if all 1000 participants work for Microsoft?

I did a fast poll and it shows that 4 out of 5 BHW Members think that you are bullshitting, and trying to pretend to have academic knowledge that you do not. And also, 9 out of 10 BHW Members think I'm brilliantly funny.

Did you just ignore the second part of what I said?
 
Just because you have no idea how to do keyword searches on bing doesn't mean they don't own the marketshare. It's a faulty assumption to think that a keyword on Google that's popular is the the same keyword on Bing that's popular... rarely is this the case.

If there is no strong positive correlation between searches on Bing and searches on Google, then something is seriously fucked up with Bing's auditory.
 
If there is no strong positive correlation between searches on Bing and searches on Google, then something is seriously fucked up with Bing's auditory.

Nope, just like any site "suggested" searches can often be wildly different on Google/Bing and fabricate completely different long tails/keyword search terms. For example, you search for blue widgets, and google suggests "Blue widgets in Washington, Blue widgets free shipping" etc. Whereas Bing may suggest, "real blue widgets", etc.

Bing is even crazier than Google on that end, as they often more openly generate trending keyphrases on their homepage and toolbars, which yields trends in search popularity for that phrase. Just look at bing's keyword tool for your niches and you'll find that they have many many highly searched phrases (keep in mind you need to about double the numbers they give, as they only give the Bing side of the equation, not Yahoo/DDG, etc). They just may be a lot different than the phrases in google that you would target.
 
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Microsoft is hilarious, especially their marketing department.

They spend all this money on trying to discredit Google and Apple. Who in the fuck spends money to advertise their competitors products?

Marketing 101, never mention your clients products in your advertisements.

No wonder microsofts taking the fast track into oblivion.
 
No wonder microsofts taking the fast track into oblivion.

Microsoft's gross income has gone from 49B to 57B since 2010: http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/msft/financials

I'd like to be on that 'fast track to oblivion'. They make a LOT more profit than Google does. If Microsoft spends $10B to improve and advertise Bing, Google should worry. That's more than their entire profit margin in 2012.

All Bing needs, IMO, is integration into facebook/twitter as a core web search function and it should gain 50% market share over time.
 
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