Google update just now? 10/4?
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Lalalaenhund
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- Sep 14, 2010
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Rankings were gone straight to hell as you put it.
I'm not expecting this to last for an eternity, but it doesn't need to as I can just do another redirect then. I'll try to keep you updated...
RedMango
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Nope, my client's sites aren't 'Yoast' optimised. They wrote the content, it's legit, WH shit. I would have thrown some of my sexy SEO stuff in there, but they didn't want it. Their site is on WP in the finance niche. It got smashed. Two other clients (travel/finance) have been smashed, but 22 others haven't, some are on WP some aren't. My SEO site is on WP and is optimised to the max, and is only climbing. I've had sites with lots or zero social links and both rank. Social is still wack in my eyes.
Nicely spun. Like spun to my preference. I was a writer, you know that, I am picky as fuck and want a decent spin. No paragraphs are the same, no character length is the same; just a nice, decent spin.
True, blog comments are my downfall. They've always been part of my plan and range of links I use. I used to boost them with various link building that would work a treat, so I kept on with it.
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ComputerEngineer
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well it is already said by google authorities
manual penalties do have time limitation
but even if you get manual penalty lifted with reconsideration algo penalties carry over
Just to show you this one is hard to figure, most of my links were directed at inner pages. All tanked, several from top 15 (including 2 top 10s) to 200.
apoorv
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As so many other people have mentioned, it's too early to say anything substantial just yet. I'm tracking a few thousand keywords, and there are some patterns but they aren't anything to go by either, at least right now. SERPs are in constant flux.
For me, the most strange thing is that EMDs seem to be doing really, really well. They have gained in the rankings, even though it's been only a little while, despite having spammy links, web 2.0s, tiers, what not. They have moved up for competitive keywords and easy ones alike.
Some brands I was tracking with what seemed like a decent link profile have dropped wildly (100,000+ links, relevant sites (the kind where you get mentioned in the resources section/cited in a post, etc.). Go figure.
For me, the most strange thing is that EMDs seem to be doing really, really well. They have gained in the rankings, even though it's been only a little while, despite having spammy links, web 2.0s, tiers, what not. They have moved up for competitive keywords and easy ones alike.
Some brands I was tracking with what seemed like a decent link profile have dropped wildly (100,000+ links, relevant sites (the kind where you get mentioned in the resources section/cited in a post, etc.). Go figure.
ibmethatswhoib
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I'm having mixed results with EMD's, some stayed the same or went up or some got hit. Not too much consistency there.
silverstonegp
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As so many other people have mentioned, it's too early to say anything substantial just yet. I'm tracking a few thousand keywords, and there are some patterns but they aren't anything to go by either, at least right now. SERPs are in constant flux.
For me, the most strange thing is that EMDs seem to be doing really, really well. They have gained in the rankings, even though it's been only a little while, despite having spammy links, web 2.0s, tiers, what not. They have moved up for competitive keywords and easy ones alike.
Some brands I was tracking with what seemed like a decent link profile have dropped wildly (100,000+ links, relevant sites (the kind where you get mentioned in the resources section/cited in a post, etc.). Go figure.
Not true either... I have several EMD's that where making over 1k am month and now tanked..a newer one is still holding ground but most tankes
pxoxrxn
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This must be where my extra traffic is coming from. All you noobs winging about a loss of rank is just telling Google that they are good at their job and they need to keep doing what they are doing. If everone on a black hat forum winges, they are doing the right thing.
I got smashed. It's a crisis.
I need SEO help. Can people recommend SEO providers please?
My company used to do SEO through building linkwheels and so forth, but we gave up on that well over a year ago. I need traffic and sales results, not link building results.
I need SEO help. Can people recommend SEO providers please?
My company used to do SEO through building linkwheels and so forth, but we gave up on that well over a year ago. I need traffic and sales results, not link building results.
Expertpeon
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- Apr 22, 2011
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Please learn how to spell whine...
Hah, true, we really need to calm everything down, sit back wait and than do some quality links and all will be ok
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Google straight away giving edge to emd ! or keywords in sub domain ! and i found strange they are highlighting keywords in url ! those are ranking above and followed by keywords in title and description areas !
No. He should learn how to spell whinge.
whinge
/(h)winj/
Verb
Complain persistently and in a peevish or irritating way.
Noun
An act of complaining in such a way.
Synonyms
whine
domainmadness
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Have been just reading and following what's happening last days, but I guess I could share my views also.
First of all it's kind of funny how after every major update this community repeats same steps. Google-hate, statements how G algo is broken and serps are horrible, end of SEO, end of Google, monopoly, revolution and so on. Exactly same stuff as many times before.
About the update I can also say the same things. Results don't make any sense. 4 out 14 of my sites got penalized. If I would had to guess before the update which sites, I wouldn't have named any of those sites actually got penalized. There's no logic or pattern with these. Sample size is small and maybe someone else who owns more sites can get better picture. Then again, been reading a lot from other peoples rankings and it sounds like everything got penalized and everything survived. Google has patents for their randomizing algorithm which might very well play some kind of role again, making it impossible to analyze the update.
Best thing for now would be to follow basic logic/common sense and ignore these results, at least until results make more sense and meaningful analysis can be made.
First of all it's kind of funny how after every major update this community repeats same steps. Google-hate, statements how G algo is broken and serps are horrible, end of SEO, end of Google, monopoly, revolution and so on. Exactly same stuff as many times before.
About the update I can also say the same things. Results don't make any sense. 4 out 14 of my sites got penalized. If I would had to guess before the update which sites, I wouldn't have named any of those sites actually got penalized. There's no logic or pattern with these. Sample size is small and maybe someone else who owns more sites can get better picture. Then again, been reading a lot from other peoples rankings and it sounds like everything got penalized and everything survived. Google has patents for their randomizing algorithm which might very well play some kind of role again, making it impossible to analyze the update.
Best thing for now would be to follow basic logic/common sense and ignore these results, at least until results make more sense and meaningful analysis can be made.
2 of my sites that have tanked had more links to inner pages, one specific inner page on each site, so I don't think it's that simple.
I agree it's totally broken and the more they punish legitimate sites with their nonsense the more it forces people into doing the very stuff they don't like, since no-one is going to spend time and money creating "quality" when it could be destroyed by Google in a couple of months time.
They are forcing people to churn and burn because it's the least risk method to try and earn a living, so they are accelerating and increasing the levels of webspam, and the simple truth is that no matter how much they tinker with their algorithm people will ALWAYS find a way to get around it for some period of time.
Google are so fecking stupid considering they have so many PHDs working for them - if they are truly concerned about the level of junk on the net, and want to discourage more and more from appearing then all they need to do is create a charge for anyone to have their website show in the Google results, and it will then be subject to the algorithm.
That is to say charge say $500 per website per year to have it in the SERPs - that would kill stone dead 90% of the webspam that's out there, mean Google don't have to keep fecking around with the algo, and leave the rest of us to make a living in peace without this crap going on all of the time.
And it would also mean they aren't putting the small mom and pop stores out of business and ruining peoples lives.
GiorgioB
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possibly the worst thing i've ever heard. if you wanna pay to rank, there is adwords for you. also, most blackhat spammers will gladly pay $500 a year if it will rank them in the top results. Most spammers will make this kind of money in 1 day.
MatthewWoodward
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GOY did a nice post about the update - http://www.godoveryou.com/what-is-google-hummingbird-how-does-it-work-does-it-change-seo
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