How do the people who sell views do it?

[tiyowan]

You're right. That's what us developers call a buffer.

Here's something for you to try, open up a video in YouTube and enable
the developer tools for your browser (say Chrome) and inspect the requests
and responses going back and forth.

Also, check out the cookies that get saved.

Viral, let's see, the video needs to be shared a lot, so I don't know high-quality
backlinks?

- T.

 

[SPQR]

Each view provider has their own method, whether it is reselling or generating from scratch. They have put in many restless nights into making their own personal method. Even if they release just a little bit of information, it would allow people to figure out more; allowing greater chance of a method being patched. Without a method, some of the bigger providers will loose $1k+ a day in revenue. My advice would be to figure out a unique way yourself. Research, research, research. Get hints from people, etc. Nobody is going to feed you like a baby.

 

[makinsales]

Buyral - lol

 

[tiyowan]

Here's an example I got just now by inspecting the AJAX
back and forth (sorry guys, this might look like spam to you):

Edit: Whoops, can't post stuff that seems like links. Anyway, PM me
if you want to see what it actually looks like.

Note the bold part btw.

Anyway, these are AJAX requests and responses. Basically, they did this
because I suspect they were getting hit really badly by simple perl scripts
for inflating the view counts.

So now, it's a two-step process. You load up the page, the video starts
streaming, and the AJAX requests go back and forth to make sure that
everything's kosher.

Which is why many of the old scripts you'll find to increase view counts
won't work, since they're not designed to take the XHR request/responses
into account.

- T.

 

[makinsales]

Here's an example I got just now by inspecting the AJAX
back and forth (sorry guys, this might look like spam to you):

Edit: Whoops, can't post stuff that seems like links. Anyway, PM me
if you want to see what it actually looks like.

Note the bold part btw.

Anyway, these are AJAX requests and responses. Basically, they did this
because I suspect they were getting hit really badly by simple perl scripts
for inflating the view counts.

So now, it's a two-step process. You load up the page, the video starts
streaming, and the AJAX requests go back and forth to make sure that
everything's kosher.

Which is why many of the old scripts you'll find to increase view counts
won't work, since they're not designed to take the XHR request/responses
into account.

- T.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[umerjutt00]

i've been babling about this with some of my friends who are coders/programmers... from their point of view there are checkpoints that the server sends in order to verify if you're actually watching the video

it goes something like this:

00:01 -> package sent asking 'have you watched this ?'
-> pc sends a package back saying he's watched it and he's ready to move to the next package
[this continues]
02:59 -> server sends package asking 'have you watched this ?'
-> pc says yes and that he's ready for a new package
-> server says that the video is over and sends the data packages containing the redirects to new videos and also telling the pc that it should stop expecting to receive packages

now if you can emulate this into a program that runs solely from a console (without actually running the video) you could provide views just by talking with the servers and telling them 'mate i've seen shit... bring in more shit' thus saving resources and actually being able to run a YT bot with 2-300-500-1000 threads from your home computer...

This really makes sense.

 

[tiyowan]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

About the code? Sure I do. They're just AJAX requests and responses. You can check
out the videoplayback request, there's a range parameter in it which specifies the byte
range of the fragment being requested.

Google for youtube videoplayback request parameters, a couple of links down there is
a paper titled Analysis and Modeling of YouTube which is pretty informative.

As far as IM & SEO, admittedly I am new to this.

- T.

 

[diemou]

Use javascript, put code into blogspot - send fake traffic. It is little hardcore ifficult to code it

 

[lmxftw]

i'm doing this right now but i have to say if that's how the views are supplied ... it's resource and time consuming ... also traffic costs a lot more than bandwidth

Use javascript, put code into blogspot - send fake traffic. It is little hardcore ifficult to code it

 

[harshaaliaschinna]

Each view provider has their own method, whether it is reselling or generating from scratch. They have put in many restless nights into making their own personal method. Even if they release just a little bit of information, it would allow people to figure out more; allowing greater chance of a method being patched. Without a method, some of the bigger providers will loose $1k+ a day in revenue. My advice would be to figure out a unique way yourself. Research, research, research. Get hints from people, etc. Nobody is going to feed you like a baby.

ya if it gets leak many views providers get loss.. and main thing to use in this is your brain.. that is just in front of you.. but its hiding by your confusion.. take a clean research and figure it out.. good luck to all..

To understand how it works you would have to do your own research - it has been discussed here many times.

LOL @ the Video - genius and funny

i think they gonna find it very soon..

 

[youtubemart]

Let me clear it.People sell views:-
Real country targeted views + iframes scripts=LOT OF VIEWS

 

[uprfam4]

Lots of companies in Bangladesh can supply very cheap HR views, how they do it.. I don't know. Some sellers probably use their services.

 

[anilpendu]

bots, scripts

 

[coreslawn]

Usually they have
1. A clickjacker script
2. A big botnet (Hacked Computers they control)

They make big amount of money

 

[erussx2]

Ok so if that is how they do it then why do people say dont use fiverr gigs to get views and stuff. If they all use the same methods then why cant someone on fiverr use those methods too and it's ok?

 

[Ramirez]

Ok so if that is how they do it then why do people say dont use fiverr gigs to get views and stuff. If they all use the same methods then why cant someone on fiverr use those methods too and it's ok?

I would like to know this also. I don't see why a Fiverr method would be any different. If it was then those services could just be used to take out competitors, like negative SEO.

As for coding a bot to generate views, I think it is possible but it requires reverse engineering their anti-bot detection and that takes serious skill and time. They probably use some kind of crypto / hashing functions that must be executed on the client in order to continue to authenticate as a legitimate user, and not a bot. Usually this is buried in some hidden and obfuscated Javascript or Flash object. Just decoding that to get the source code can be extremely difficult. Maybe some guy has done this and there is a bot going on the market to select people with enough money. I have defeated a lot of anti-bot measures before. When I have a few hours spare I'm going to investigate.