Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread

[weedface18]

yea i still have doubts this is even real traffic, anyone have adsense installed and checked the bounce rate, shit like that?

if you can get that much traffic wouldn't you use it for yourself?

 

[Typlo]

yea i still have doubts this is even real traffic, anyone have adsense installed and checked the bounce rate, shit like that?

if you can get that much traffic wouldn't you use it for yourself?

We've been doing this business for over one year on BHW, and we find it more reliable to have our own clients, than using the traffic with another company program. That gives us 100% control on our revenues, we wouldn't put all our money in the hands of another company

 

[b520fp0]

Hi. Trying your service for the first time. Any particular reason I didn't get the BHW15 discount?

Transaction reference number4TD20581CV384791X
Amount$11,99 USD

 

[Typlo]

Hi. Trying your service for the first time. Any particular reason I didn't get the BHW15 discount?

Transaction reference number4TD20581CV384791X
Amount$11,99 USD

Hi,
Thanks for your order! The BHW code is a bonus, not a discount, so you won't see any change in the price

 

[BlackhatUser]

Are you sure it isn't some bot traffic? When i check the referer url it just keeps redirecting to some other sites in few seconds...

 

[Hadouken]

Are you sure it isn't some bot traffic? When i check the referer url it just keeps redirecting to some other sites in few seconds...

I also found the same thing. Opened referrer URL, and it was auto-surfing through all of the other customers websites. Not very good privacy either so then I can see everyone else campaigns and copy what they are doing, or if I was really a bad person, I could report them and get them in trouble if the program doesn't allow paid bulk traffic like this.

From over 30,000 visitors, I have found an average time on site of 14 seconds. Some days the average time on site was 3 seconds. The bounce rate was over 95%. Average page views per day was 1.0. Got a total of 7 page views from 30,000 visitors (pages other than my landing page).

Edited part of this. Typlo says they just use expired domain redirects, and that it was just a test with some special script which they aren't using anymore.

I have tested "split testing" with Linkbucks traffic, which is known to be pretty junk traffic, and converted at 1 in 500 on a website. The same site with your traffic, 0 in 10,000. But the way your describe your traffic, is more targeted how you describe, and Linkbucks is just blind traffic being forced to view my page.

So, don't expect conversions on your site. Don't even expect extra page views. But there are other uses for this traffic! It has definitely sent real humans to my links.

 

[Typlo]

How do you explain and account for that?

I'm sorry if the quality hasn't been satisfying for your needs, it's best to contact our tech team on http://www.maxvisits.com/contact.html for technical help, they will provide a more efficient answer than I could.

Are you sure it isn't some bot traffic? When i check the referer url it just keeps redirecting to some other sites in few seconds...

This is just a tracking URL used by our tech team to monitor the campaigns.

 

[b520fp0]

Hi,
Thanks for your order! The BHW code is a bonus, not a discount, so you won't see any change in the price

Fair enough.

How long does it usually take to start seeing the traffic?

 

[Typlo]

Fair enough.

How long does it usually take to start seeing the traffic?

All campaigns are processed and started within 24 hours.

 

[Hadouken]

I'm sorry if the quality hasn't been satisfying for your needs, it's best to contact our tech team on http://www.maxvisits.com/contact.html for technical help, they will provide a more efficient answer than I could.

Typlo has PM'd me asking me to remove my review. I obviously will not do that. I think all readers of blackhatworld have a right to see honest reviews from customers. I have used the service many times, and Typlo suggested in a PM to me, that it might have been some sort of error or glitch. Why would it just happen on the times that I have ordered, that it would be a glitch? Now, why would I keep ordering if the traffic is junk? It does still have its uses, but it is not as described in my opinion.

I have bought traffic from trafficjunky, linkbucks, adfly, adwords and this service, and this is the only service I have NEVER gotten a conversion from. Sure, I sent an email to your "technical support", but I am sure they wont provide me with a satisfactory response. It isn't like I am the only one who has ever bought thousands of visitors and had 0 interaction from the visitors.

Edit:
I won't remove this post, but I am editing it. Typlo has agreed to update his main website FAQ and will try to get a mod to edit the original post for him. The reason being, that in this thread, there is some mention about a special script that provided extremely targeted traffic. Typlo says they are not able to use that script anymore, so they are just using expired domain redirected traffic. This was the issue with the bottom half of my post, so I removed that part. The bottom line was, I got 30,000 hits to sites, and no conversions for CPA/Sales/Adsense Clicks or anything like that.

But the traffic has other uses which I found from testing. But not conversions/clicks on my sites.

 

[Hadouken]

There was an issue with hiding/blanking the referrer. Typlo has assured me he will work with his company to try to make sure this is fixed, or they will not promise to 100% blank the referrer if they can't fix the referrer leaking.

As shown in my picture, most of the referrer was blanked, but there was some that leaked.

 

[Hadouken]

Important updates to come from Typlo and MaxVisits.

 

[Typlo]

Important updates to come. I am talking with their support team. It isn't good news for us....

We value all our clients reviews, and it helps us to improve our service. Now I will try to help you at the best of my knowledge.
- We promote this service mostly to boost your Alexa rankings (or other metrics), lower down your CTR on Adsense, and boost your stats. We don't promote conversions and do not guarantee any conversions, as seen in our ToS
- We never claim selling a magic method that will bring you sales/leads, clients do report results and we do our best so that they get those results.
- For the blanking referrer system, you are right and I'm sorry if it didn't work efficiently, I will see with our tech team if we can use an alternative system to blank the referrer, if not it won't be used anymore.

The traffic is indeed from expired domain sites and redirected automatically to your site. It was the main method at the beginning of the website existence, we then tried an alternative method (having visitors click your link before reaching the site) but we unfortunately didn't have enough inventory in the end to fulfill all orders. Therefore we went back to the initial method.

We usually don't share our exact method to protect our network, publishers and clients privacy, but I sincerely hope this will clear the concerns you and others may have had.

 

[Hadouken]

Well, I appreciate you posting this publicly, because if anyone read the whole thread like I did, it was very confusing.

So, this traffic is Expired Domain traffic, automatically redirected to your website. It still can be useful for some things, so I am not saying their traffic is useless, but lets be clear, they are saying it is expired domain redirects and nothing more.

As far as targeting, there is no way of being able to check how targeted it is or if anything else weird is going on, without seeing which domains are being used to redirect to your site, and I am sure they don't want to release a list of their expired domains they are using.

You will most likely get 90%+ bounce rate with this traffic, and I am not even sure if the traffic can really help your Alexa rank, because the traffic appears in an iframe of their stats tracker site, so I don't see how Alexa would track that, but I am not an Alexa expert. I can say though, this type of traffic can not help your page rank, your website rankings, and it is dishonest to use this traffic to puff up your stats to try to sell a website and most people will see right through it.

So, if you need some bulk expired domain traffic, that MAY be targeted, this should work fine for you.

I always see different IPs, and the traffic appears to be legitimate redirected expired domain, except that you should NEVER expect clicks or sales with this traffic, because MOST of the people posting in this thread have said the traffic does nothing and just bounces off the page.

 

[Typlo]

Well, I appreciate you posting this publicly, because if anyone read the whole thread like I did, it was very confusing.

So, this traffic is Expired Domain traffic, automatically redirected to your website. It still can be useful for some things, so I am not saying their traffic is useless, but lets be clear, they are saying it is expired domain redirects and nothing more.

As far as targeting, there is no way of being able to check how targeted it is or if anything else weird is going on, without seeing which domains are being used to redirect to your site, and I am sure they don't want to release a list of their expired domains they are using.

You will most likely get 90%+ bounce rate with this traffic, and I am not even sure if the traffic can really help your Alexa rank, because the traffic appears in an iframe of their stats tracker site, so I don't see how Alexa would track that, but I am not an Alexa expert. I can say though, this type of traffic can not help your page rank, your website rankings, and it is dishonest to use this traffic to puff up your stats to try to sell a website and most people will see right through it.

So, if you need some bulk expired domain traffic, that MAY be targeted, this should work fine for you.

I always see different IPs, and the traffic appears to be legitimate redirected expired domain, except that you should NEVER expect clicks or sales with this traffic, because MOST of the people posting in this thread have said the traffic does nothing and just bounces off the page.

I thank you deeply for taking the time to analyze and review our traffic service. Being a French company dealing with technical details in English has lead to many errors on our side, that we will now be able to prevent thanks to your help.
We don't want to confuse our clients, and I hope that my post and yours, along with an imminent update on our thread, will help our clients know exactly what to expect before purchasing.

 

[Hadouken]

Also, I will say, I can guarantee that I get human visitors from this traffic. I have done some methods to test it, and it is definitely sending real humans. I can't say too much detail about the traffic, but it is definitely not all bots of proxies or anything like that, I can at least guarantee you that much (I have tested this traffic several times from 2011 up to October 2012, so my experiences are based off of those purchases.)

 

[Typlo]

Also, I will say, I can guarantee that I get human visitors from this traffic. I have done some methods to test it, and it is definitely sending real humans. I can't say too much detail about the traffic, but it is definitely not all bots of proxies or anything like that, I can at least guarantee you that much (I have tested this traffic several times from 2011 up to October 2012, so my experiences are based off of those purchases.)

This is an important part that needed to be clarified, thank you.

 

[carlito]

Hi mate, thanks for the trial, I subscribe for 5000 free visitors, I got around 2000 clicks on the offer on my landing page (walmart coupons), but zero conversion. It's a bit disappointed since this offer is usually converting well.
Maybe I have to go on with a paid package to see some improvement with my campaign...

 

[Typlo]

Hi mate, thanks for the trial, I subscribe for 5000 free visitors, I got around 2000 clicks on the offer on my landing page (walmart coupons), but zero conversion. It's a bit disappointed since this offer is usually converting well.
Maybe I have to go on with a paid package to see some improvement with my campaign...

Hi,
The free trial consists of 5000 untargeted USA visitors. Therefore the results may of course not be as good as with a regular campaign.
Although if you're searching exclusively for conversions, it may be best to go with PPC campaigns (Adwords, 7search, etc.)

 

[carlito]

Hi,
The free trial consists of 5000 untargeted USA visitors. Therefore the results may of course not be as good as with a regular campaign.
Although if you're searching exclusively for conversions, it may be best to go with PPC campaigns (Adwords, 7search, etc.)

thanks for this useful precision.
Ok so I'm going to test with targetted visitors, let's say the food niche I think, will update soon