A little off topic from current conversation, but regarding aff linking. Couldnt you just put an iframe on a facebook to another facebook page, then switch the iframe url out to your af link after approval? Kinda how you can with fb ads just give em the old switcharoo? Idk I havent done this yet but I plan too
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sonicpunk32
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Recently? I heard entropay changed their algorithm making it harder to get their VCCs without depositing $20.
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My problem was my ads would get automatically approved by their algorithm, get some clicks, then 20 to 40 hours later, an actual human would visit the page, then bam, site suspended.
I've also read in this forum that their algorithm tracks the keywords you use like a unique ID for your campaign. So if the site gets suspended, you can't use that same set of keywords again. Making even more difficult to find a working campaign. Not to mention they keep a cache of your site, so if you use the exact same page, red flag.
I've also read in this forum that their algorithm tracks the keywords you use like a unique ID for your campaign. So if the site gets suspended, you can't use that same set of keywords again. Making even more difficult to find a working campaign. Not to mention they keep a cache of your site, so if you use the exact same page, red flag.
Google probably does do a few basic checks e.g., whether timezone matches up and whether IP is from a VPN, but imo this is only the initial phase to help them cut the list down. Even if you get past this bit, you still have the manual review to get past. I think the reviewers have been told to be particularly critical of voucher accounts. Tbh most of the example sites I've seen so far of what people are putting up look like really thin "Google Sniper" type affiliate sites. On a paid account you'd probably get away with this, but not on a manually reviewed voucher account. This is the reason why your success rates are so low; there probably aren't many G employees lenient enough to let these thin sites through. So if you are saying to yourself "this can't be right. This is exactly the same as my other site that got approved, so why the f** isn't it working this time?", then the chances are that you just got lucky the last time with a manual reviewer who was a bit more lenient.
You all should check out the leaked Google Page Guidelines 2012 to find out exactly what they want in a site. Most of the links on the internet have been taken down, but search Google for "google leaked rating guidelines 2012" and you should have some joy. In a nutshell, those guidelines explain that the real way to increase your sites approval rating is to make your sites look less blatantly like they are trying to push another persons/companies product. They give plenty of examples of what they are looking for in those documents.
You all should check out the leaked Google Page Guidelines 2012 to find out exactly what they want in a site. Most of the links on the internet have been taken down, but search Google for "google leaked rating guidelines 2012" and you should have some joy. In a nutshell, those guidelines explain that the real way to increase your sites approval rating is to make your sites look less blatantly like they are trying to push another persons/companies product. They give plenty of examples of what they are looking for in those documents.
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You might be right. I only have two possible reasons of accounts getting suspended: proxies or vouchers. And I am starting to think that... The problem is proxies. Anyway, were you successful in running any campaigns with public IP and using Fiverr vouchers? And if yes, then did your AD's show up without any reviews? Your answers would be appreciated.
I got reviews on ALL of the campaigns.. Some I heard back from right away that there was an issue etc, I was given chance to fix it. Another time ad was approved BUT the account went under review for 8 days. BUT I passed. Yes the public Ips worked..Yes used Fiverr vouchers..The first campaign I got the message they could not verify the billing information etc. I did use an actual address and actual phone number. They never called. My feeling is that I logged into another account without c cleaner etc....It was my first run at it..
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ponasjulius
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Yes, you must deposit 20 USD, but hey, then you can create looots of VCC's
.Thanks for your answer, this helps a lot since I am now 95% sure, that all these suspends I have been facing with recently are the fault of bad proxies.
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I am also considering that the vouchers have nothing to do with the suspensions. I bought my vouchers to that satyr guy, the same guy who most of the people in this thread bought from. It worked perfectly for me.
lostpassword
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So Google can see the timezone of my computer?
I thought that would violate privacy right.
ponasjulius
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Go to these websites ip-check. info/?lang=en or analyze.privacy. net and see what information your browser gives to any site you visit. Your computer time is not considered to be personal information while your MAC address is.
To everybody else: Fiverr vouchers are ok to use. Tested, proved to be right.
Also, 99% of the times you will fall under review even if you did everything right. This is normal so do not leave these accounts without supervision only because your ads dont start showing instantly.
Do not bother changing MACs or cleaning Flash cookies - as I've already mentioned in my earlier posts, Google uses neither of them to catch you. Still clean normal cookies and cache (you can use CCleaner for this).
Try to avoid HideMyAss services - while some IPs are ok, others will get you banned! Do not make any conclusions if you are using HMA. Also, do not use any other public stuff, otherwise you take the risks of getting suspended because of using a flagged proxy.
Be smart: if you register as USA citizen, do not start creating campaigns for Pakistan websites
. Try to use existing information and be sure that it matches your proxy. Conclusion: IP is the main thing which gives you away. This is the final conclusion after 1 month tests and it is very logical: Google will never ban you if they believe you are a potential customer. Individuals using proxies look like cheaters, not like customers and this is the reason why Google won't doubt and ban you as soon as they can.
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lostpassword
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When I check analyze.privacy.net, I didn't see any computer time.
Maybe you see it differently but this is what I see:
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ponasjulius
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Please scroll down a little more after making a anonymity test
lostpassword
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Please scroll down a little more after making a anonymity test
DAMN, That shit is just Nasty.
Imagine what would happen if you know that much about the girl next door.
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Apologies if its already been said in the thread but Im reading thru it and it came to over 600 pages on my sony reader .
Ive been trying using proxies with firefox today but the ones I got from scrapebox are so slow I keep getting timeouts on nearly every click.
So other more suitable (free) suggestions?
PS I dont have any of this new fancy mobile phone shit- still using one from the early 2000's so that option is out.
. Ive been trying using proxies with firefox today but the ones I got from scrapebox are so slow I keep getting timeouts on nearly every click.
So other more suitable (free) suggestions?
PS I dont have any of this new fancy mobile phone shit- still using one from the early 2000's
so that option is out.ponasjulius
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Apologies if its already been said in the thread but Im reading thru it and it came to over 600 pages on my sony reader
Ive been trying using proxies with firefox today but the ones I got from scrapebox are so slow I keep getting timeouts on nearly every click.
So other more suitable (free) suggestions?
PS I dont have any of this new fancy mobile phone shit- still using one from the early 2000's
My suggestion is: use PC and use good proxies. The ones you get from any public source are 90% shit.
ponasjulius
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Do not ask others, because failure/success depends on each person individually. This is just a basic method, you yourself have to figure out the exact way to make money - nobody is going to tell you. I've spent weeks testing adwords vouchers because I wanted them to work really bad, do you want to make money really bad? Then go for it!
MrShelburn
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Nice Guide, thank you
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Here is my experience with this :
1. I think the vouchers are the problem and as suspected I dug deeper.
Bought a few fiver vouchers few months ago, random guy.
Used 5 of them -> banned -> bridge, billing , etc
On the last time I promoted an online shop put up really quick,
Created a new gmail account , real name real adress , Local IP ( no proxies)
Created a new adwords account with same data as above, submited my shop , Got a qulity score of 7 for almost all keywords, and ad sayed Elibigle.
That was great .
After 3 days -> boom , suspended. Ok no problem start from scratch, but I got really mad so I emailed them that I`m a real person with real adress ( it was real , I put my neighbours adrres and his name haha) and account went to review
After another 2 days I got this email ( here is the most important thing that people don`t get!):
Dear Advertiser, Thank you for your email.
We've reviewed your account and found that it unfortunately doesn't comply with the following promotional credit requirements:
- The promotional coupon is non-transferable and may not be sold or bartered.
- One promotional credit per customer.
- A promotional code can only be used in the territory where it's originally
distributed.
To review our promotional credit requirements, please see:
http://adwords.google.com/support/a...85&guide=1308259&page=guide.cs&answer=1396257
As a result, your account and any related accounts you may have created have been suspended. Your ads will no longer run on Google.
Google only distributes free promotional codes to new AdWords advertisers directly or via authorized third parties, such as our Google Certified Partners, at our discretion.
So, what does this mean ?
You need to use coupons from your country.
If you live in USA , the hostgator vouchers sellers from fiverr could work but not always.
If you are from Europe like me, you need to find a GooglePartener Business that is registered in your country
Seach here: https://adwords.google.com/professionals/search/
type a radom budget 5000$+ to be sure you find all potential businesses. Visit their sites and see how can you qulify for some vouchers. If you contact them some will sell you a few, maybe not at 5$ like fiverr but that way you will be sure you won`t get that shitty billing info error.
This way you ca use the method "as is" stated in the 1st post.
Why did it work from him ?
1. He is from USA
2. He has USA IP
3. He uses a real adrres from a neighbour ( thats right from USA )
4. He buys vouchers from Fiverr ( yes thats right , from a USA seller that uses a method for USA people to get vouchers , such as Hostgator method that is only for USA and Canada )
See my point here?
Everything is country related and source of voucher.
As of NOW , please state your country and the country of the vouchers if you have success.
What do you think ? Has anyone experienced similar problem ? for those that worked it was maybe a coincidence between their location and voucher location.
1. I think the vouchers are the problem and as suspected I dug deeper.
Bought a few fiver vouchers few months ago, random guy.
Used 5 of them -> banned -> bridge, billing , etc
On the last time I promoted an online shop put up really quick,
Created a new gmail account , real name real adress , Local IP ( no proxies)
Created a new adwords account with same data as above, submited my shop , Got a qulity score of 7 for almost all keywords, and ad sayed Elibigle.
That was great .
After 3 days -> boom , suspended. Ok no problem start from scratch, but I got really mad so I emailed them that I`m a real person with real adress ( it was real , I put my neighbours adrres and his name haha) and account went to review
After another 2 days I got this email ( here is the most important thing that people don`t get!):
Dear Advertiser, Thank you for your email.
We've reviewed your account and found that it unfortunately doesn't comply with the following promotional credit requirements:
- The promotional coupon is non-transferable and may not be sold or bartered.
- One promotional credit per customer.
- A promotional code can only be used in the territory where it's originally
distributed.
To review our promotional credit requirements, please see:
http://adwords.google.com/support/a...85&guide=1308259&page=guide.cs&answer=1396257
As a result, your account and any related accounts you may have created have been suspended. Your ads will no longer run on Google.
Google only distributes free promotional codes to new AdWords advertisers directly or via authorized third parties, such as our Google Certified Partners, at our discretion.
So, what does this mean ?
You need to use coupons from your country.
If you live in USA , the hostgator vouchers sellers from fiverr could work but not always.
If you are from Europe like me, you need to find a GooglePartener Business that is registered in your country
Seach here: https://adwords.google.com/professionals/search/
type a radom budget 5000$+ to be sure you find all potential businesses. Visit their sites and see how can you qulify for some vouchers. If you contact them some will sell you a few, maybe not at 5$ like fiverr but that way you will be sure you won`t get that shitty billing info error.
This way you ca use the method "as is" stated in the 1st post.
Why did it work from him ?
1. He is from USA
2. He has USA IP
3. He uses a real adrres from a neighbour ( thats right from USA )
4. He buys vouchers from Fiverr ( yes thats right , from a USA seller that uses a method for USA people to get vouchers , such as Hostgator method that is only for USA and Canada )
See my point here?
Everything is country related and source of voucher.
As of NOW , please state your country and the country of the vouchers if you have success.
What do you think ? Has anyone experienced similar problem ? for those that worked it was maybe a coincidence between their location and voucher location.
lostpassword
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I think google judge base on both promo credit and IP.
VPN is not good because Google could black list all of them.
Try private proxies, you will see better result.
VPN is not good because Google could black list all of them.
Try private proxies, you will see better result.