Calling Out: USProxyKing

[r4ys--]

Well thats not gonna work on a BH forum is it. According to my IP I'm holidaying in Sunny Canada right now (EH!) , but FB thinks I'm in LA. It's funny because when I look outside it looks alot like Australia to me. Even my real IP places me 1200km away from my actual location

Hurm. i thought I'm the only one who have the IP problem. My IP said that I'm logging in from somewhere in Kirkland.
Where is Kirkland btw?

 

[USProxyKing]

Hurm. i thought I'm the only one who have the IP problem. My IP said that I'm logging in from somewhere in Kirkland.
Where is Kirkland btw?

What you guys are referring to is BHW's choice of GEO IP tools. An actual IP address will place what ISP this guy is using as well as his general wherabouts.

 

[r4ys--]

What you guys are referring to is BHW's choice of GEO IP tools. An actual IP address will place what ISP this guy is using as well as his general wherabouts.

That means BHW's choice of GEO IP can't detect where the "mysterious" OP are isn't?
What's the point of getting the IP of OP then?

Please bro, you have not came out with any prove rather than questioning OP and a few other people.
Care to show some?

 

[bashx]

I cant comment on ProxyKing but I am involved in voice broadcasting on a daily basis.
Anyone who is claiming to pump out as many calls as he is on a VOICEDATA only system is lying or delusional.

There is a reason even the big boy's pay telserver 2.5Cents a minute.... I am talking about shop's that run into the hundred's of millions of minutes a month.

Data only voice broadcasting has so many headaches none of which I have seen you explain or even talk about.
Carriers,Numbers getting tagged by Telephone companies, avg length of call etc etc.

Also pro tip never do business with anyone in florida you will save yourself money in the long run.


Edit* also wtf are your coder's doing are they reinventing the wheel are they just using vicidial or freepbx clusters. Show us that you know anything at all about the technology you will use to run your platform.

 

[USProxyKing]

An IP will tell us his ISP, and since he used the word 'surname' I would bet that he is not located in the US.

I would like to get this trevor on a group skype call as well (everyone would be invited) and we record it. His only tool is his extreme bullshitting, which will be his undoing.

How about it, trevor ?

 

[USProxyKing]

I cant comment on ProxyKing but I am involved in voice broadcasting on a daily basis.
Anyone who is claiming to pump out as many calls as he is on a VOICEDATA only system is lying or delusional.

There is a reason even the big boy's pay telserver 2.5Cents a minute.... I am talking about shop's that run into the hundred's of millions of minutes a month.

Data only voice broadcasting has so many headaches none of which I have seen you explain or even talk about.
Carriers,Numbers getting tagged by Telephone companies, avg length of call etc etc.

Also pro tip never do business with anyone in florida you will save yourself money in the long run.


Edit* also wtf are your coder's doing are they reinventing the wheel are they just using vicidial or freepbx clusters. Show us that you know anything at all about the technology you will use to run your platform.

Really? 2.5 cent a minute? You can order millions of calls from many suppliers for as low as .01 per min.

 

[bashx]

Really? 2.5 cent a minute? You can order millions of calls from many suppliers for as low as .01 per min.

Yeah on a data only network, you can get as low as around 1.3 cents with a mix of traditional and data. If you think a data only network is going to be able to pump out the volume you are looking for you are sadly mistaken. You might see the thoroughput but your drop numbers are going to be insane and you are going to be burning bridges like a mofo.

 

[r4ys--]

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Poisoning the Well is a rather cunning fallacy that involves attacking an arguer?s motivations, rather than their argument.

By implying or asserting that an opponent has an ulterior motive, you call his entire argument, including the truthfulness of his premises, into question.

This is a pretty common tactic in religious and political debate, and it often takes the form of a preemptive strike.

The obvious flaw is that the arguer?s motivations have nothing to do with the validity of the argument.

Questioning why an argument has been made does nothing to counter the argument itself.

 

[USProxyKing]

Not data, voice. Look it up. Those prices are retail. The prices the companies actually pay are much, much smaller.​

 

[USProxyKing]

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Poisoning the Well is a rather cunning fallacy that involves attacking an arguer's motivations, rather than their argument.

By implying or asserting that an opponent has an ulterior motive, you call his entire argument, including the truthfulness of his premises, into question.

This is a pretty common tactic in religious and political debate, and it often takes the form of a preemptive strike.

The obvious flaw is that the arguer's motivations have nothing to do with the validity of the argument.

Questioning why an argument has been made does nothing to counter the argument itself.

Really?

He claims to know me IRL. Do you think if I can prove that this is false, why would you believe the rest of his tale?

I am not attacking his motivation / ulterior motive. I am attacking the core of his story - which is that he knows me and that I told him that I am scamming people.

 

[bashx]

Not data my friend, voice. Look it up. Also, that is retail pricing. The 'big boys' pay way less than 1 cent a minute internally.​

So you are setting up your JV using voice and you are going to make those calls for free.... What exactly are your programmers working on?

 

[USProxyKing]

So you are setting up your JV using voice and you are going to make those calls for free.... What exactly are your programmers working on?

I am not here to entertain you or anyone else. I am here to respond to accusations that I am scamming investors. I don't know how you got text messaging out of the word robocall anyway.

 

[Facebook Solutions]

well, i maybe dont have some special status over here but I can state couple of stuff from my life experience .
First of all: "check his ip, check his ip ..." - Need IP's for posting? www.DSLNexus.com or skype: DSLNexus
This just made me laugh ....
second of all ..
I got scammed couple of times in my life .. but i would never invest in "too good to be true", with all the respect if its perfectly legal why would he go to "small fishes" for small investments>? there are plenty of big sharks that would go for it IF IT WAS TRUE.
Third and last, I read all the messages on both threads .. I notice that in this thread, "USProxyKing" replay very short replays .. which indicates he is stressed. he does not want to "expand" his comments over here as he does not want to "get in to more trouble" so he answer very quick and very pointed.
I would never go in to this jv .. like we say in israel .. "Talking are like sand and there is nothing to eat" (hehe in english you cant understand it, as its a rhyme in hebrew) which means "talking is one thing, doing is another thing". if people used the paypal payment method i would strongly suggest them to dispute as soon as possible before its too late.

I state again, I have no idea who he is or this Trevor guy is . I just give here my honest opinion, what more is that usually people do not "make up" from scratch a story like Trevor did (which fit most of the details etc).

 

[bashx]

I am not here to entertain you or anyone else. I am here to respond to accusations that I am scamming investors. I don't know how you got text messaging out of the word robocall anyway.

/facepalm i never said anything about sms.

 

[davidk]

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Poisoning the Well is a rather cunning fallacy that involves attacking an arguer?s motivations, rather than their argument.

By implying or asserting that an opponent has an ulterior motive, you call his entire argument, including the truthfulness of his premises, into question.

This is a pretty common tactic in religious and political debate, and it often takes the form of a preemptive strike.

The obvious flaw is that the arguer?s motivations have nothing to do with the validity of the argument.

Questioning why an argument has been made does nothing to counter the argument itself.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

 

[bz]

Try to keep this on topic and not drag in other peoples methods and/or scams.

USProxyKing: Nobody is going to give you anyones IP address. I will say that the OP isn't connecting from home, he's using a proxy. So is your partner, fwiw. I don't care about the personal involvement aspects of this claim, none of it. I care about wild ROI claims, continued delays in your investors seeing their returns, and the possibility of scamming.

To all involved: I'm inclined to close this thread, and contain everything in the JV thread at this point. USProxyKing has offered to issue refunds to those that don't want to continue. This was something that an admin had previously warned everyone about in the actual JV thread, but this entire pitch is full of holes. I'm not keen on the idea that the partner outside of the US, who has barely participated in this forum, claims to be holding all the money and has no helpful responses to peoples concerns. I'll await further feedback from some of the people involved before deciding if this thread stays or if we'll contain it all in the JV thread.

 

[USProxyKing]

Try to keep this on topic and not drag in other peoples methods and/or scams.

USProxyKing: Nobody is going to give you anyones IP address. I will say that the OP isn't connecting from home, he's using a proxy. So is your partner, fwiw. I don't care about the personal involvement aspects of this claim, none of it. I care about wild ROI claims, continued delays in your investors seeing their returns, and the possibility of scamming.

To all involved: I'm inclined to close this thread, and contain everything in the JV thread at this point. USProxyKing has offered to issue refunds to those that don't want to continue. This was something that an admin had previously warned everyone about in the actual JV thread, but this entire pitch is full of holes. I'm not keen on the idea that the partner outside of the US, who has barely participated in this forum, claims to be holding all the money and has no helpful responses to peoples concerns. I'll await further feedback from some of the people involved before deciding if this thread stays or if we'll contain it all in the JV thread.

1. This thread needs to remain open - closing it now essentially serve Trevor's purposes. This needs to be settled publicly and I am more than positive that we will see a conclusion to this in the next 24-48 hours.
2. Wild ROI Claims? So what am I supposed to do if I believe something is capable of making a lot of money? Should I have the right to state my beliefs?
3. Continued delays, while annoying, are a part of business. Especially large projects such as this. At any rate, my investors have been informed that they will start seeing returns within the next 10 days. We have collected more than $50k as it is. We don't need anymore money.
4. Close the JV thread if you want, but allow us to be able to communicate about our project.
5. No proof of scamming as been made. I have been VERY transparent with my investors during this whole process. And many will vouch for me even now.
6. Andrei (globalsolutions) must have not read the entire original post. It's obvious from his replies.

 

[partymarty4870]

To all involved: I'm inclined to close this thread,

From a purely popcorn munching aspect please keep this thread - Trevor said he'll be back, that should spice things up soon.

 

[wannabie]

Bleemz, Sorry but I have to ask this, what is fwiw?

 

[RMX]

Bleemz, Sorry but I have to ask this, what is fwiw?

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/FWIW