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[manny521]

So let me get this strait. You got yourself to supposedly making all this money. And no you got zero and you gave up?

Is there something I am missing here? You must have done something to get up to making that much. If your giving up after making that much money, you are either a really huge pussy or your just a huge pussy.

ouch, maybe he made enough money to retire...what is your dollar amount to never look at another computer again?...mine is about $2.3 million...move to a foreign country, live on the beach, buy some wave runners and rent them out to tourists...Fuck the rat race!

 

[partymarty4870]

ouch, maybe he made enough money to retire...what is your dollar amount to never look at another computer again?...mine is about $2.3 million...move to a foreign country, live on the beach, buy some wave runners and rent them out to tourists...Fuck the rat race!

similar plan - but way bigger figure for me.

 

[mikepaxston]

Never give up....I see all this blowing over in 3 months......

Im not doing anything....no seo......and ranks have been climbing.

I think this is Googles move to do a random wild card algorithm...

After everyone stops spamming them they will lay out a new algo.

It will be better for everyone I bet in the long run....and less work for us...

I was getting sick of sending out 100 unique spun articles a day.......

I seriously think its going to be better in a few months......they are working on the new real algorythm right now.....Im sure Google emplyees are reading these forums right no to see what people are doing blackhat to use against us on the real roll out!

whats going on now is just random BS rankings to throw everyone off.

you'll see it all roll out in 3 months or so.....it will all settle down. If not sooner!

 

[kegnum]

So let me get this strait. You got yourself to supposedly making all this money. And no you got zero and you gave up?

Is there something I am missing here? You must have done something to get up to making that much. If your giving up after making that much money, you are either a really huge pussy or your just a huge pussy.

OOOOOORRRRRRR maybe he has more than enough to retire and is just fed up with this shit... to be honest, if I built up that much income just to have it crumble id be fed up too.

 

[Dan Da Man]

Toushe! But I am the type of person who would get bored. Maybe I would move away from this shit google spits out and start some other type of business. Or just go to vegas and get a bunch of prosties

 

[BlackhatArticles.com]

BlackHat SEO ---spam--> {WP Comments|Forums|Article Directories|Web Directories|Web 2.0|Press Releases|Wiki|Edu/Gov|Social Networking Sites}

{WP|Forums|Article Directories|Web Directories|Web 2.0|Press Releases|Wiki|Edu/Gov|Social Networking Sites}--Complains--> Big G

Big G --Penguin--> BHSEO

 

[bobgoe]

Where did you get that link from:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEVxdmdRWFJRTjRoLWZVTHZkaTBQbkE6MQ&ndplr=1


I mean, how do we know its not you or someone else trying to steal our niches?!

I don't believe in submitting the site , I think it is like adsense reconsideration if you submit then you are doomed for ever , i better wait for this to settle down , Has any one tried submitting the site to this link

even i have something weird my tire one crappy spun content web 2.0 property is ranking 1 and 9 in google , I think now the web2.0 propertie link juice is not considers by google , I have blasted so many links bot sb xrum and link wheel medi wiki every backlink possible to web2.0 property i directly so i think this makes the web2.0 rank and not my site anybody have the same issue

 

[jeresteem99]

i must say I now starting loving it heree.

btw, Does the Google penguin knew this kinda of stuff???

 

[jeresteem99]

OMG, please need help... My 3 keywords is 1st page in Google USA for almost 5 months now.. but when the Google update, its now nowhere to be found... please help.

 

[takeachance]

I don't believe in submitting the site , I think it is like adsense reconsideration if you submit then you are doomed for ever , i better wait for this to settle down , Has any one tried submitting the site to this link

even i have something weird my tire one crappy spun content web 2.0 property is ranking 1 and 9 in google , I think now the web2.0 propertie link juice is not considers by google , I have blasted so many links bot sb xrum and link wheel medi wiki every backlink possible to web2.0 property i directly so i think this makes the web2.0 rank and not my site anybody have the same issue

What anchor texts are you using on the web 2.0's you've blasted? optimized or naked?

 

[twilightofidols]

OMG, please need help... My 3 keywords is 1st page in Google USA for almost 5 months now.. but when the Google update, its now nowhere to be found... please help.

Umm dude....... a little late, just a little bit.

 

[Junkfood00]

I think the best way to recover and get back into the game is to use whitehat techniques until you figure out what G exactly likes and dislikes, that then you can manipulate their algorithm and go darker.

 

[ok888]

G like money the most

 

[bobgoe]

What anchor texts are you using on the web 2.0's you've blasted? optimized or naked?

variation of the keyword and keyword itself ,I think after seeing this it is better to direct blast the site than a buffer site. But it is too early to tell

 

[pride1760]

I have a site that got penalized some time back. It wasn't in the top 500 results for any keyword so I stopped link building completely and just let it be. It's just a 5-page site with each page targeting a separate keyword (All keywords combined have a total of around 50,000 exact US searches and $5 CPC). The backlink profile is really nasty with the majority of it coming from ALN, Wiki blasts, web 2.0, scrapebox blasts, etc...

It suddenly re-appeared in the SERPs a couple of days back and is continuously rising.

Is there anything I can do to make it move further up? I am really scared to do anything right now. Most of my money sites have died last week so this one is kinda my last hope.

Has everyone temporarily stopped SEO or is there something that can be done to without risking a ban?

 

[nikolaalx]

One thing I have noticed with my site that got hit is that the average time on site has improved a heap and bounce rate has significantly dropped. My main keyword was at #2 before the update then went out of the top 100. It has come back to position 4 today. All my other keywords are still failing but I am now ranking for random words that I havent before. These new ones are keeping people on my site a lot longer. Am only getting 10-15 people a day now instead of around 100 but still early days. Oh and for the comment about maybe joomla not being hit thats not the case as my site is made from joomla with around 30 pages all unique.

I notice a drop in a specific set of keywords for a project of mine.

I can't say if the site has been hit by the penguin or it's a dance, because only 10-15% of the keywords were affected...and they went from e.g. first page to 2nd and 3rd page. These were quite competitive keywords though and this results in 60% of the traffic being lost (for now).

I went to analytics and compare the current organic traffic (the one that stayed) with the one that was lost.

There was a significant difference in :

Average Visit Duration: +118% (4 minutes vs 2 minutes)
Bounce Rate: decrease of 18% (55% vs 68%)
Pages/Visit : 2.8 vs 2.4

So theory is that they can be using analytics data to track user metrics and cut out poorly performing keywords (on a relative basis...e.g. they have the average values for each keyword and they can easily see if your are under or over performing).

Or other option is this whole thing to be a coincidence.

In the end of the day the most reliable way to measure your site's quality is to see if people actually like it? Bounce rate + time on site + pages/visits are the foundamental factors for this.

Hmm.....this could be more of a Panda than a penguin though.

 

[sikandar]

.edu sites including mit.edu are now ranking for viagra on 1st page of Google .. just because they are authority domains ..

LOL .... What shitty algorithm Google has embraced !

just Google Viagra - google fucked their algo.
1st Wikipedia
2nd local
3rd some site not even selling Viagra WTF

 

[moonlighsunligh]

Guys, I've been doing SEO since 1997. I had the largest mortgage loan lead generation business online. From 1997 to 2003 I had most of the top 20 positions using my network of sites on Yahoo and then Google when it came around. If anyone remembers loansamerca that was me. I was bringing in over $150K a month- no advertising, all SEO. Sold it in 2003 to a private mortgage bank. I returned back to SEO in 2008 and was dominating insurance and investment products. High end stuff. All my sites were first page and up until last week I was averaging $61,000/month. Now I am at $0. I was all white hat- meaning no scrapebox, xrumer, pyramids. I only bought links on high PR related sites. I was spending $7800/month on whitehat links. This is the first time I have ever questioned my skills. What do I do now? This reminds me of the last scene in "Casino" when Robert Deniro's character says "After the Tangiers, the big corporations took it all over." Remember when the Internet allowed the little guys to make money and allow anyone to start a business with almost $0 start up costs? "But in the end, I wound up right back where I started". Good luck everyone! I'm finished.

If i have earned that kind of money i would retire.

 

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1. Remove the offending content
   This is the easiest method. If a derogatory post has been made on a forum, you can request that the moderators remove the content. Quite often this is all that is needed. Sometimes a solicitors letter might help with your argument, but in general, forum moderators and blog owners are quite happy to remove potentially damaging posts and comments.
2. Promote non offending content - "Insulation"
   This involves creating or promoting pages that are not harmful, for example, if a page contains negative messages about your client, you can create positive message content, and do SEO to promote those pages higher up, and force the bad press down the rankings where it will have less impact.
   Similary, you can do this for business competitors. If you sell product A and your competitor sells products A and B, then you can promote another company that just sells product B, which is not in competition with you, but is in competition with the business that you are doing negative SEO on.
   This method is sometimes called Google Insulation .
3. Google Bowling
   This is a technique designed to remove a site from the SERPs by making google believe the site is spammy. The are two ways this can be done. One is to add links to the site from lots of bad neighbourhoods, link farms and automatically generated spammy pages. If you get thousands of links back to the site in a few days and get them to show up in googles results, this can trigger a spam alert and affect the rankings of the site. The other way it is done is to find a page on your competitors website which has dynamic URLs but has the same content, for example, if they have a page with the url H++p//mycompetitors.com/index.php?page=11, then is the url is changed to page=12 but has the same content, then you are vulnerable to google bowling by url manipulation. What is done then is to create hundreds of links with slightly different urls but the same content, post these links liberally around forums, blogs, directories and link farms, and sooner or later google will tag it as black hat.
4. Infect their site
   If a site is infected with a virus, then it is flagged up in the SERPs as being potentially dangerous. This can be also achieved by using cross site scripting (XSS) vulnerabilities to create links to pages which display on page content from posted form elements or querystrings - for example, if you have a site with a page like search.asp?keyword=mysearch and in the page itself it says 'there are no results for mysearch' - then the link can be manipulated to search.asp?nastysite.com/malware. If you then post this link on a webpage, then anyone clicking on it will get the search results page, and where it says 'there are no results for XX' the javascript is inserted into the page content and runs with the same security level as the main page itself. When google picks this link up, it will flag your site as infected and possibly remove it from the search results.
5. Tattling
   This involved informing google that a site contravenes its guidelines. Usually this is to report paid-for links (which you youself could theoretically set up without the target site's involvement), or grey hat SEO tactics used on the site. Other forms of tattling is to claim copyright theft of content or images.
6. Guilty by Association
   This method involves making your own spammy site - the spammier the better - using a similar url to your competitor and if possible use the same domain registrar and hosting services. Copying the metatags and site content of the home page of your target site is also useful. Then you do everything in your power to get the site banned (it's not hard). Once you have done this, you install a 301 redirect to your competitors site and sit back and watch it slide down the rankings like a pig on a greasy pole! This is especially effective if your black site has the same pages as the target site and you do individual 301 redirects to the target site.
7. False duplicated content
   The way this is done is to create a site with the same content as your competitor, but try to get the new content to the site crawled before your competitor. For example, if your competitor changes their home page, you change your honeypot site's homepage to the same content and metatags, then submit a sitemap with just that page on it to google, bing and yahoo site explorer, so that your content is indexed first and your competitor's content is ignored as duplicate content when the search engines get around to indexing them. This is very hard to defend against, and only reporting the site as phishing content can save you here. Canonical urls can also help.
8. Denial of Service Attacks (DOS)
   This method of hacking uses several different computers to simultaniously flood the target website with requests so that the volume of traffic blocks up the website's bandwidth and essentially cuts off access to the rest of the world. Distributed denial of service attacks (DDOS) are even more damaging because they use hundreds or even thousands of virus infected zombie PCs all on different IP Addresses to attack the target site.
   If a site is unreachable when google tries to crawl it, this has negative consequences for the rankings of the site. Recent DDos attacks on Visa, Mastercard and Paypal in retaliation for their withdrawn support of WikiLeaks are more likely to have an immediate impact, but the reduction in SERPs will have a longer term impact that is impossible to measure
9. Click Fraud
   If your competitor has adwords running for their site, you can click on their adverts to use up their budget and affect the number of genuine visitors. Generally google is pretty good at detecting this, so it has limited impact. However, if you set up a team of people and got them all to do 3 or 4 clicks a day, it soon adds up.
   Another click mechanism is to get all your friends to click on your site, or the sites just below your competitor. There is some evidence to suggest that the number of clicks affects your rankings.
10. Adsense Banning
    If your target site uses google adsense, then you can click on their adverts on their site many times until the adsense account is suspended. Its much easier to suspend someone's adsense account than it is to get it resumed following allogations of click fraud.
11. Black social bookmarking
    This method uses social networking sites like twitter and facebook to create lots of bogus accounts, then use these accounts to create spammy links to the target site with phrases like 'viagra', 'porn', 'teens', 'warez', 'crackz', 'gambling' etc. This is an extension of google bowling taking advantage of the new features of google that include real time search of social networking sites. In recent times, with Google including more facebook and twitter pages in the serps, this technique has become more effective.

JUST SAYING!

 

[Junkfood00]

.edu sites including mit.edu are now ranking for viagra on 1st page of Google .. just because they are authority domains ..

LOL .... What shitty algorithm Google has embraced !

This page http://pinto.scripts.mit.edu/Research/Monster16GPU is ranking for Viagra. loool