Ranking website with only no-follow links

[alexa_s]

I'd say forget about NoFollow. I have two websites, one PR2 and one PR4. Both of them have 95% Nofollow links. One has 1k link in total, 980 of which nofollow. One is no1, other no.2 for a medium-competitive search.

As to indexing, I always put About & Disclaimer in footer and make them nofollow, they get indexed in 100% of cases. True story. I'm even inclined to think that g00gle doesn't make ANY difference between no and do follow.

Conclusion: the only difference between do and no-follow links is that nofollow ones have 'rel=nofollow' in the html code. That's it.

 

[BlackSEOWizard]

I'd say forget about NoFollow. I have two websites, one PR2 and one PR4. Both of them have 95% Nofollow links. One has 1k link in total, 980 of which nofollow. One is no1, other no.2 for a medium-competitive search.

As to indexing, I always put About & Disclaimer in footer and make them nofollow, they get indexed in 100% of cases. True story. I'm even inclined to think that g00gle doesn't make ANY difference between no and do follow.

Conclusion: the only difference between do and no-follow links is that nofollow ones have 'rel=nofollow' in the html code. That's it.

There is a difference, no follow links do in fact pass less page rank and in some cases none. In my opinion, I believe they have an algorithm that scales the page rank passed by no follow, by default maybe it is something like 10% but can be scaled based on criteria (manually and automated).

 

[eiulii]

if the link is no follow then you may get traffics but no backlinks and without back links search engines will not get ur site indexed and will now find enough availability of page links.

 

[BlackSEOWizard]

if the link is no follow then you may get traffics but no backlinks and without back links search engines will not get ur site indexed and will now find enough availability of page links.

A no follow is a BACKLINK. It depends on who you talk to on wither it gives you page rank or not.

 

[Ignition]

my trafic dropped,i hope its temprary

 

[Fathom]

I would like to see some proof that no followed links pass pagerank. I'm not denying it, just genuinely interested.

The best way to test this method is to create a brand new site with 100+ pages and build no followed links to it, then see how many pages are indexed after 2 weeks.

 

[BlackSEOWizard]

I would like to see some proof that no followed links pass pagerank. I'm not denying it, just genuinely interested.

The best way to test this method is to create a brand new site with 100+ pages and build no followed links to it, then see how many pages are indexed after 2 weeks.

It's already been proven and tested many times.

SEOMoz recently did a study using Twitter, it was more about social media than no follow but all twitter links are no follow and the site did well.

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/tweets-effect-rankings-unexpected-case-study

Look hard enough, you will find a lot of studies already done but you can always test things yourself as well. Most great marketers do anyway.

 

[orlandolongwood]

I'd say forget about NoFollow. I have two websites, one PR2 and one PR4. Both of them have 95% Nofollow links. One has 1k link in total, 980 of which nofollow. One is no1, other no.2 for a medium-competitive search.

As to indexing, I always put About & Disclaimer in footer and make them nofollow, they get indexed in 100% of cases. True story. I'm even inclined to think that g00gle doesn't make ANY difference between no and do follow.

Conclusion: the only difference between do and no-follow links is that nofollow ones have 'rel=nofollow' in the html code. That's it.

From Google:

In general, we don't follow them. This means that Google does not transfer PageRank or anchor text across these links. Essentially, using nofollow causes us to drop the target links from our overall graph of the web. However, the target pages may still appear in our index if other sites link to them without using nofollow, or if the URLs are submitted to Google in a Sitemap. Also, it's important to note that other search engines may handle nofollow in slightly different ways.

I have confirmed this on dozens of sites. Put a link in a sitemap that is no-followed on your HTML pages - like the ones generated by WP plugins - and it will get indexed. To prevent indexing, you must also put a noindex robots meta tag in the page. You also need to exempt the page from the sitemap generation tool you are using.

Google also follows LINK tags in headers!! Google also parses javascript files and compiled Flash for links. Google even parses Excel, PDF, and Word documents for links. Tested this several times as well.

 

[Fathom]

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/tweets-effect-rankings-unexpected-case-study

What that article proves is that no followed links can pass authority and more specifically it passes more authority through different members, IE Rand Fishkin would have substantially more authority than a new member on twitter, so by getting a page tweeted by an authoritative member on twitter will give you better rankings in the serps. It does not prove it passes pagerank.

I have not looked into this but I think a klout score (http://www.klout.com) can be a measure of an authoritative twitter member.

 

[BlackSEOWizard]

What that article proves is that no followed links can pass authority and more specifically it passes more authority through different members, IE Rand Fishkin would have substantially more authority than a new member on twitter, so by getting a page tweeted by an authoritative member on twitter will give you better rankings in the serps. It does not prove it passes pagerank.

I have not looked into this but I think a klout score (http://www.klout.com) can be a measure of an authoritative twitter member.

First off, pagerank isn't a measure of anything real. It's just a metric noobies use to measure websites. It's like playing he said she said with technology.

It does show it passes something that can influence your website's ranking, and that's what most people are really referring to when they discuss page rank.

Anyway, there are a ton of other studies you can use, but more importantly you can always test it yourself.

 

[Fathom]

First off, pagerank isn't a measure of anything real. It's just a metric noobies use to measure websites. It's like playing he said she said with technology.

It does show it passes something that can influence your website's ranking, and that's what most people are really referring to when they discuss page rank.

Anyway, there are a ton of other studies you can use, but more importantly you can always test it yourself.

I agree and if I thought that doing the test would change anything for me then I would take it on.

The only thing that pagerank does is index pages, whether it be internal or external pagerank, a site NEEDS pagerank to index pages.

as an example, If you create a profile link and don't do anything else to it then more than likely that page that your link is on won't become indexed because it has no pagerank pointing to it.

Build a no follow link to that page and I would be curious to know what would happen as Google states that no followed links don't pass pagerank.

Build a followed link to that profile page and I assure you that the profile link will become indexed.

 

[BlackSEOWizard]

The only thing that pagerank does is index pages, whether it be internal or external pagerank, a site NEEDS pagerank to index pages.

See there I disagree, I've seen pages indexed (and ranked) with N/A & PR0 links.

 

[Zemanel_]

Not on google you won't rank with nofollow links, those are invisible to google.
Though you'll rank pretty well on yahoo.
Cheers!

 

[BlackSEOWizard]

Not on google you won't rank with nofollow links, those are invisible to google.
Though you'll rank pretty well on yahoo.
Cheers!

Says you, but in actually that isn't the case. Try it yourself.

 

[download]

I think your experiment is flawed. Who cares whether you can rank a site using only nofollow links? What search engines look for these days is natural link building and link diversity. That's what gets sites ranked.

 

[BlackSEOWizard]

I think your experiment is flawed. Who cares whether you can rank a site using only nofollow links? What search engines look for these days is natural link building and link diversity. That's what gets sites ranked.

What I said earlier.

 

[SkyIsTheLimit]

A friend of mine did a test: he made up a word that wans't ranked and linked 2 different websites, anchor texting that word in the links. One link was no follow, the other was do follow. It's been 2 years now and the ******** linked site shows up in google when searching for that word, but the nofollow site is nowhere to be found. That means you get NO seo benefint from nofollow links.

 

[BlackSEOWizard]

A friend of mine did a test: he made up a word that wans't ranked and linked 2 different websites, anchor texting that word in the links. One link was no follow, the other was do follow. It's been 2 years now and the ******** linked site shows up in google when searching for that word, but the nofollow site is nowhere to be found. That means you get NO seo benefint from nofollow links.

You said it, must be so.

Thanks for the update.

 

[Kickflip]

Just did a test on one of my sites. Put some nice spun content, around 800-1000 words, and OUTBOUND links to google/twitter/youtube/wikipedia, then I tweeted the page. There are NO internet/external links pointing to this page, just the tweet on twitter, and that tweet is actually a shortened t.co link which redirects to my page. The page has been live for 48 hours already, but I just did the tweet 4 minutes ago. Will let people know if it gets indexed or what happens.

 

[Fathom]

See there I disagree, I've seen pages indexed (and ranked) with N/A & PR0 links.

if a page has 0.25 of pagerank it will show as PR0, if it has 1.25 of pagerank it will show as PR1. I am talking about actual pagerank, not toolbar pagerank.

Google uses pagerank as a measure of importance, if they do not consider a page to be important enough then that page will end up in Google's supplementary index, this usually happens when people ping low quality pages just to get it indexed, but that page ends up being deindexed a week or 2 later as that pinged link loses any pagerank that it once had.


This page here is currently not index in Google >> hxxp://w3.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/php-perl/256278-need-newsletter-php-script-please-help-willing-pay.html
http://bit.ly/A0Qvu3

It's not indexed because it's so far away from a page that actually has any pagerank. Google has decided to remove it from it's main index.


This thread that we are posting on is indexed because it is closely connected to a page that has enough pagerank to make it be indexed.