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- Oct 5, 2011
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I've paid Toyo several times for work, always came through for me without problems
He was probably in a good mood on those several occasions.
You only see someones true colors when the shit hits the fan..
I've paid Toyo several times for work, always came through for me without problems
This is clearly a very difficult situation.
If OP's bad mailing list has resulted into ruining Toyo's bot proxies network, who will pay for the damages caused by OP's non-opt-in mailing list?
Spamhaus (and other anti-spam sites) has been going after the mailers/ISPs big time.
Many data centers/top-tier ISPs who received the complaints from Spamhaus would result in imposing the fines against the IP users, even private proxy providers.
Just my 2 cents.
Ummm, let's get something straight. Sending out mass emails to a non-opt-in list is NOT illegal. CAN-SPAM only requires the ability to opt-out to be compliant.
It really pisses me off that people think sending out spam is illegal. It's not illegal, just frowned upon.
So let's stop calling the OP's operation "Illegal" because it's not.
Thought this might be appropriate
True, but why would someone jeopardize their hard earned reputation here for a meager 4K. So let's give Toyo the benefit of doubt.
Regardless of how crooked OP's money making operations are, the bottom line is that TOYO broke some major ethical rules and I would never ever ever ever do business with a person of this caliber, especially on BHW...
What saddens me the most is not TOYO, but the perceived credibility (5 star/senior member/donor) that accompanied the guys name. I used to respect the credentials, as they symbolized professionalism and trust. It does take time and effort to establish such a reputation and I have come to respect that, or at least I used to.
It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to read between TOYO's lines. He is guilty as hell on this one. He should have come up with a better response to OP than BHW's rules and regulations.
It's like saying, "hey everyone its no big deal, Ya I ripped this guy off but i didn't do it on BHW, so ya, you know, I'm still trust worthy and stuff, you guys can still do business with me".. NOT!!!
Peoples livelihoods are at stake here and many of us come to rely on BHW and the connections we create as a result.. Sure, some of us utilize black hat techniques on the internet to twist the odds in our favor or our clients, but I think I can speak for the majority when I say that we are not criminals!! Criminals are scum and scum do not belong here.
BigBuddy you've seen this thread by now.
Please take action and ban this mothafucka. His attitude screams guilty from 1000 miles away.
We just hate fucking scammers. Please don't give him any second chances
sorry just came back and this thread had exploded, didn't read pages 2-3
What is illegal is doing a pump and dumb operation with mass mailing. So please read the thread again, cause you have no idea what you are talking about. You probably dont even know whats going on and you seem talk out of your ass.
Not sure what a "Pump and Dumb" operation is. And lol, I'm glad you can tell someone's talking out of their ass by three sentences.
For your information douchebag, I do emailing for a living. What about you?
wow man this has got to be the fastest growing thread in BHW history! 5 pages in around 8 hours lol you guys love the drama!!!
dont know what to think about this tbh, i speak with toyo sometimes and I know he operates on a very dark side of online money making which i find parts of it prety cool and i dont mind some of the stuff i know hes up to
but not this - this is pure out scamming another person! and cant be tolerated and then to say that BHW rules say it is outside BHW it dont count WRONG this guy obviously found you threw your rep here as a mailer so approached you so it was your rep here got you the gig that you took advantage of