Toyo is a theif!

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[4:00:58 PM] Toyo: I used send-safe, and it doesn't publish reports

so theres no proof either way - take a guess - u have
a 50/50 chance

My guess is he scammed the guy.

I hate when people say "Ohhh he could not of done it! :o he's got like 4000 posts"...

lol when it comes to money post's don't mean jackshit. :itsme:
 
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lol more popcorn!! well, if there is no proof, i guess we pretty much know where this will lead to... better say your goodbyes..
 
If he is guilty (and probably he is, because now i know he was ban once here already, i remember that) because i contacted him for email teaching.


(His PM to me after Ban is lifted)

I was away for a few months, and right now I'm back and rocking. All of you guys sent me a PM recently for email consulting- I'm providing my service once again. I got over 100 messages in my PM box unanswered, sorry for the delayed reply

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Here is a description of my mailing tutorial;


I will initially give you a general outline which is segregated based on the amount of emails you wish to do in a day. (for 10k, 100k, and 1mil+)


The outline has everything covered including hosting, software, IP rotation methods, how to evade spam filters, avoid blacklists, etc, etc.

I will then also give you an ebook which discusses how to structure your campaigns, email content, how to detect and avoid spam traps, whitelisting and also a more detailed explanation on how everything works.

After that, we can then discuss the method you choose and I will answer all questions that you may have regarding mailing.
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My paypal email is [email protected] . We can discuss further before you would wish to start. My AIM is bendahara83, my ICQ and YM is listed on my profile.

Thanks,

'Toyo'





I only feel sorry for this guy who lost money.
 
This is clearly a very difficult situation.

If OP's bad mailing list has resulted into ruining Toyo's bot proxies network, who will pay for the damages caused by OP's non-opt-in mailing list?

Spamhaus (and other anti-spam sites) has been going after the mailers/ISPs big time.

Many data centers/top-tier ISPs who received the complaints from Spamhaus would result in imposing the fines against the IP users, even private proxy providers.

Just my 2 cents.
 
This is clearly a very difficult situation.

If OP's bad mailing list has resulted into ruining Toyo's bot proxies network, who will pay for the damages caused by OP's non-opt-in mailing list?

Spamhaus (and other anti-spam sites) has been going after the mailers/ISPs big time.

Many data centers/top-tier ISPs who received the complaints from Spamhaus would result in imposing the fines against the IP users, even private proxy providers.

Just my 2 cents.

Well, if that is the case, Toyo could have tried a trial with like 1000 or so emails with less IPs...
He took the job, get the money paid to him... no if his proxies got blacklisted, this is nothing OP could do much with.

Its like you pay someone to cut a tree, if their axe breaks when cutting, then its not your fault. Is it? ;)
 
just a personal opinion, that anyone
who uses a botnet needs this
sorry i took this pic of another shit thread
its not mine but its fitting
botnets give good proxie sellers a bad name

A botnet is a collection of compromised computers connected to
the Internet. Termed "bots", they are used for malicious purposes.
When a computer becomes compromised, it becomes a part of a
botnet. Botnets are usually controlled via standards based network
protocols such as IRC and http.

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MAYBE?
 
Well would love to see what happend with the investigation....
 
This is clearly a very difficult situation.

If OP's bad mailing list has resulted into ruining Toyo's bot proxies network, who will pay for the damages caused by OP's non-opt-in mailing list?

Spamhaus (and other anti-spam sites) has been going after the mailers/ISPs big time.

Many data centers/top-tier ISPs who received the complaints from Spamhaus would result in imposing the fines against the IP users, even private proxy providers.

Just my 2 cents.

From OP first post

I hired TOYO to do a mailing for me. I made arrangements for him to mail 10 million emails for me using his list and servers.
 
I dont know Toyo but come one guys!He took a 4K deal and he have a shit list on his name and the biggest reply he gave here was like 10-15 words . . . I dont see a professional in this!
:ban:<---- Toyo
 
The Messed up Part about it is Toyo has no conscience about the matter like he already accepted his fate. If he blatantly scam the guy of $4,000 be real man up take the consequences of your action and stop trying to use bhw rules as an excuse. Just because you did the deal outside of bhw doesn't change the fact your a scammer, and Whose to say you wont or aren't doing it to other bhw member's already? Honestly every deal i have done i have some RECORD of the conversation. That is your only proof you will ever have, and for him to say Oh my skype doesn't keep log's? Bull honestly he should be banned just on the notion of him even admitting that he did do the job and couldn't not produce evidence of the sending. Some people are just so near sighted and doesn't see the long haul and the potential $$$$ he could have made. and think he shell out $4,000 could you even imagine the amount he would have shelled out if you were able to complete the service? so for $4,000 you lost potential $$$$$ more lol ignorance is so bliss.
 
This is what he told me on skype (a couple days ago)

bk071: are you good at mailing stuff?
Toyo: kinda, I'm mailing 20million daily and inboxing around 70-80%, I haven't seen anyone who can beat that with that volume

LOL xD
if he inboxes 10% of his 20 million he wouldn't have to scam anyone for sure. well, lets wait and watch
 
Toyo, It seems to be you hesitate to reply in this thread. You have 24 hours to sort this out.

Option 1 : Refund the Money to OP, as you have no proof regarding Job completed.

Option 2 : If you don't wanna refund, then explain your side.

If I did nt get any reply here in 24 hours, will be issuing Perm ban, considering you are guilty.
 
Adios Amigos, Keep this reputable forum from scammers
 
Well Toyo could have avoided this situation if he didn' use the BHW rules as an answer to OP's accusation in the first place. By doing so, he just acted like he is guilty.

*singing* and now the end is near, and so i face, The Final Curtain...
 
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