Toyo is a theif!

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Exception? Don't command me... I know what i am doing...

Just post your side and i will take care of that personal info...

The skype utility I'm using don't keep any logs. Ask the OP to post and I will verify them.
 
ok, no need any chat logs.

As per op's Post and some of your posts, its clear you accepted the job, even though its illegal.

He paid you for mailing using your list. You are claiming , completed the job. If it is true, send me the proof.

And one more thing, why you blocked him in skype? if you completed his job.
 
sorry to say but that seems another reputable member has fallen.

I cant really understand.... WHY THE HELL ppl (with knowledge) keep scamming when this business pays a shitload of money...

Once i have forget 1 order, and the guy asked me 2 months later what happened.

I could not say sorry enough and refund his money in 1 hr, and apologize again.
 
I got a feeling Toyo is gonna leave us all, very soon :P

bye-bye.jpg

 
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As i remember i saw this nick name "toyo" banned already few months ago.
 
ive just spoken to toyo on skype
i asked some questions. judge for
yourself.


[3:49:28 PM] ME: mind if i ask afew questions
[3:49:35 PM] Toyo: yeah, sure
[3:50:30 PM] ME: user says - payed 4k - then u deleted him no service
provided - true or not ? and a 4k shit list thread, shouldnt u reply. thats alot
of money to ingore.

[3:51:04 PM] Toyo: My proxy botnet got blacklisted quite fast with his emails
8.2k out of 10k got blacklisted then I stopped I'm losing way more than
4k because of his crap

isnt using a bot net on bhw illegal ? thats using compromised Trojaned
pcs as spam tools - next

[3:56:18 PM] Toyo: so you run a botnet as well?

no i dont i dont deal in hacked pcs - thats just bad.

[3:57:22 PM] Toyo: yeah, this deal has nothing to do with BHW, and also
its illegal, as the leads he wanted me to mail is not opt in

his leads were illegal ? so was using a botnet 2 wrongs dont make a
right

NOW HES UNSURE

[3:57:49 PM] ME: so he didnt hire u through bhw
[3:58:04 PM] Toyo: yes
[3:58:17 PM] ME: so your breaking the rules as well
[3:58:30 PM] Toyo: I don't advertise my mailing sevices through bhw, at all
[3:58:32 PM] ME: u took the sale through pm knowing its not allowed
[3:58:45 PM] Toyo: no, we didn't deal through pm
[3:58:47 PM] Toyo: through skype
[3:58:49 PM] ME: of bhw ?
[3:59:05 PM] ME: he hired u from outside bhw
[3:59:11 PM] Toyo: not sure, perhaps, I'm not sure where he got my contact details from

ME: for 4k u sould be its your buisness 2 no
can u prove to him u sent them?

[4:00:58 PM] Toyo: I used send-safe, and it doesn't publish reports
[4:01:21 PM] ME: so u have nothing to show u did anything at all

he stopped replying - draw your own conclusion

No disrespect but shouldn't the investigation be left to the mods?
 
Abstroose yeh your right - i only asked as a non ranking
member to see if he would be more open apologies to bb

but he told me on skype he has no proof
ME: for 4k u sould be its your buisness 2 no can u prove to him u sent them?
[4:00:58 PM] Toyo: I used send-safe, and it doesn't publish reports
[421 PM] ME: so u have nothing to show u did anything at all

nothing more after that bb

if i pay som1 to chop down a tree i can see the
result i payed for.

if i pay 4k for an online job even if it failed
i want a report, so at least i cant call the seller
liar if he can prove he put the time in for the job
then at least he tried. would anyone except it didnt
work on a word for 4k?
 
Toyo likes it perm maybe?

This thread is really going viral. Toyo in or out?

I put $1 million on out! any other bets?

you gonna pay up on aug 25th 2012? :p

im sure he or anyone in their right mind with this rep won't risk his account and rep here for a mere 4k. if he does his mailing right he should already be making that kind of money every day.
 
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you gonna pay up on aug 25th 2012? :p

im sure he or anyone in their right mind with this rep won't risk his account and rep here for a mere 4k. if he does his mailing right he should already be making that kind of money every day.

This is what he told me on skype (a couple days ago)

bk071: are you good at mailing stuff?
Toyo: kinda, I'm mailing 20million daily and inboxing around 70-80%, I haven't seen anyone who can beat that with that volume

LOL xD
 
This is definitely looking bad for Toyo, the obvious reason:

A.) He cannot clearly define how contact was set up with the OP and it's clear he broke rules and PM'ed.

B.) Dropping out of conversations when the questions become too hot to handle.

C.) Being rude to moderators is a BIG NO NO!.

The list could go on... if hands on heart the OP lost $4,000 then I feel extremely sorry for him and hope justice is served.. I could never con anyone out of $1.00 never mind $4,000... that is disgusting... that is if it is proven "toyo" did the evil deed. :rolleyes:
 
My speculation is that toyo took on the job outside of BHW, but when his botnet started getting blacklisted so soon, realised the job was not worth it.. and figured that since it was outside of BHW, he would steal from a crook (the activities were illegal).

Toyo shouldn't have blocked him on skype.
OP shouldn't have wired $4000 to a stranger in one go.

Everyone loses.
 
Toyo's no scammer I did bussiness with him and got exactly what I paid for.as for the mailing part-As he said he did exactly what he was told and paid for so if the ips got canned quickly its not his fault the op didnt have a clean opt in list.

Dude always use a clean list I learned the hard way.

yeah but he did not answer the main question everyone is asking...


Did he scam the guy or not? i think my "signature" applies for TOYO.
 
like toyo said

[4:00:58 PM] Toyo: I used send-safe, and it doesn't publish reports

so theres no proof either way - take a guess - u have
a 50/50 chance
 
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