How to setup an anonymous/untraceable PayPal account
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Rushdie
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- Feb 2, 2009
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what can we do about the bank account if im living in eastern europe and theres no such thing as a prepaid cards here?
just take money to paypal and spend it online without withdrawing to a bank account? but without an account i wont be able to verify the paypal account right?
thanks
satoshikaitsu
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- Mar 28, 2011
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This is very smart and I've had a lot of these ideas myself. But the part about searching up some random person in the place your new IP is located... that could be considered identity theft so be careful with that blackhatters.
dsquared890
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- May 16, 2011
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I have heard that some People provide the service of building these anonymous PP accounts. I would like to purchase this service if anyone does this. Thanks
Can this method be applied with paypal australia??? Or should I create a US paypal account???
nofinga911
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- Jan 2, 2012
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is this way still valid?? Since the post is a few years old?? Anyone willing to help me?
nofinga911
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- Jan 2, 2012
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Does anyway know if this still works?
zebrahat
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- Aug 6, 2008
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As of today, from handling a number of stealth accounts for myself or others, I can confirm the following still works:
1) Prepaid cards still verify PP, but the SSN acceptance varies with the application verification system of the vendor, some are more exacting than others. Some require the SSN to match the address of record for the person associated with it, while other applications don't do an address check or presume the person has moved if it deems the SSN is legit.
2) The vccandbank 'virtual SSN' does work to provide a US PP account (verified via VBA) with a SSN their system accepts. If you're outside the US you can apply for a US maildrop to get a physical address, then use such it in conjunction with such a PP account to get physical mail.
3) Ally Bank can create a real bank account with physical debit card. If the SSN supplied during application is accepted, it will accept whatever US address you give it (doesn't ask for ID or bill statement). So you can get a PP account bank verified by a Ally account, and can even add the debit card to it (if the PP account has first had a different card that matches the PP address attached to it, PP doesn't do an address check for the second card).
4) A clean IP/high anonymous proxy (VPN) when using the stealth account is still very helpful. My understanding is an IP mismatch triggers a red flag to limit an account only once, but try to be consistent anyway.
5) An offshore PP account is still workable, if beforehand you obtain the ID and bill statement documents ahead of time, to prove the listed address and to deal with a limitation. Treat the issue as a foreseeable business problem you WILL face, instead of a "how come my 'guaranteed safe' account got limited" betrayal. Also be prepared to verify it with a AVS-VCC, hopefully with at least a one year expiry.
6) Since it becomes increasingly arduous to conduct activity without facing the tyranny of identification (matching name/id/slave number as the only accepted form of authentication), use of pseudonym identities is probably your most continuously workable form of maintaining defacto anonymity. That includes using pseudonym means of ordering anonymous or pseudonym-related items wherever possible. Figure out what works for you from the info in the thread, keep your key set(s) of working stealth/pseudonym data ready when making applications or verifying, and you should be okay.
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Cyberloader
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- Jan 11, 2010
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So... could you setup a functional pp for others? If so, feel free to contact me at cyberloader AT yahoo DOT com
emporionoboa
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- May 31, 2012
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There is a great Paypal guide (called the Paypal Code) shared in the members download section. It really gives you all the details you need to accomplish everything mentioned in OP's thread.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
Is the paypal code still available? I followed the links but I couldn't find it. Any other resource?
thank you
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
Is the paypal code still available? I followed the links but I couldn't find it. Any other resource?
thank you
emporionoboa
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- May 31, 2012
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Can you recommend me a debit card that does not require social? please or someone who sells them
TroubleTimes
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- Feb 15, 2012
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wow good and helpful information. thank you
i do have one question though. what about if i open a new bank account and link that to paypal??? (my old paypal account wss suspended so i had closed the bank account as well.)
i do have one question though. what about if i open a new bank account and link that to paypal??? (my old paypal account wss suspended so i had closed the bank account as well.)
Wholesalebuyer
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- Jun 4, 2012
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thanks for th einfo
timothywcrane
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- Apr 25, 2009
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I know this is an old thread and I myself found it through search (more people should do this), but I have decided to comment as a brotherly gesture to all of my American marketers. While this might be a simple website TOS violation through PayPal, once a social security number is used or a banking institution is linked, it then become either identity or bank fraud from the viewpoint of the FBI.
I would focus all of my brainpower and activities blackhat by adding layers of security between your consumer and your conversion indexing institutions (CPA networks etc..). Redirect your URLS, use IP proxies, and even create pen name projects, intended to specify a niche in your brand (such as pinchmyass76, Lisa May, DOB, physical location...) but do not cross the line of "attempting to become, impersonate, or create where there was not, a legal or financial separate identity".
If you are not US or where you think you are out of reach, think of it as you will. Getting a letter from Facebook, Google, Twitter, or even a stealth free host can be tolerated even in the most simple of cases, but if I can persuade even one person from making a stupid mistake that brings "boots to the door", it will be worth it.
Explaining to your CPA manager that you need your $ because he messed up (even if they didn't) is a whole lot better than explaining to some "gung ho, hyped up, gun toting dude in a suit" that you were not indeed "money laundering". This might be the waves getting through my tin hat (and maybe true experience), but THEN (remember you are now already facing time) that they have to find a CRIME that you needed the laundering for to begin with. Are you a terrorist? A drug dealer? A thief? Don't try to tell them you do BH marketing, you might now be a foreign backed hacker. Trust the understanding that the FEDs have a 98% conviction rate for "what we have stated", and the worse crime of this category, the more likely you are to take the plea for "whatever they want".
I know this comes off as a rant. But re-read it, watch the news or read the paper, take a look at your kids, then go back to the laptop. What I say is true. Its all worth an LLC creation or some fancy javascript, or a few more thousand accounts lost, or even out of pocket losses to avoid it.
This is blackhat. It requires innovation, creation, and hard work. Know what the risks are and don't be stupid. Just because you have all of the technology at your fingertips, does not mean that there is no line where blackhat begins and illegal fraud begins. Deal with it. Welcome to Blackhatworld, not Handcuffworld.
If I have offended anyone, it is not meant. If your still offended. I must be right and it WAS you. LOL
Be safe guys.
I would focus all of my brainpower and activities blackhat by adding layers of security between your consumer and your conversion indexing institutions (CPA networks etc..). Redirect your URLS, use IP proxies, and even create pen name projects, intended to specify a niche in your brand (such as pinchmyass76, Lisa May, DOB, physical location...) but do not cross the line of "attempting to become, impersonate, or create where there was not, a legal or financial separate identity".
If you are not US or where you think you are out of reach, think of it as you will. Getting a letter from Facebook, Google, Twitter, or even a stealth free host can be tolerated even in the most simple of cases, but if I can persuade even one person from making a stupid mistake that brings "boots to the door", it will be worth it.
Explaining to your CPA manager that you need your $ because he messed up (even if they didn't) is a whole lot better than explaining to some "gung ho, hyped up, gun toting dude in a suit" that you were not indeed "money laundering". This might be the waves getting through my tin hat (and maybe true experience), but THEN (remember you are now already facing time) that they have to find a CRIME that you needed the laundering for to begin with. Are you a terrorist? A drug dealer? A thief? Don't try to tell them you do BH marketing, you might now be a foreign backed hacker. Trust the understanding that the FEDs have a 98% conviction rate for "what we have stated", and the worse crime of this category, the more likely you are to take the plea for "whatever they want".
I know this comes off as a rant. But re-read it, watch the news or read the paper, take a look at your kids, then go back to the laptop. What I say is true. Its all worth an LLC creation or some fancy javascript, or a few more thousand accounts lost, or even out of pocket losses to avoid it.
This is blackhat. It requires innovation, creation, and hard work. Know what the risks are and don't be stupid. Just because you have all of the technology at your fingertips, does not mean that there is no line where blackhat begins and illegal fraud begins. Deal with it. Welcome to Blackhatworld, not Handcuffworld.
If I have offended anyone, it is not meant. If your still offended. I must be right and it WAS you. LOL
Be safe guys.