Need Advice: Senuke X or Venom Seo Pro?

[qillen]

GG,

i just login and i can see the download link for pro now. My issue is resolved now. Thanks for resolving my issue. Although i wish i didn't have to resort to this manner to get my issue resolved. GG, you used to provide very good customer service. When i buy the lifetime license back on 19th of may, i remember you appear online on gmail almost immediately after i paid. Setup my login so i can access the tool immediately. I understand you woke up from bed to do this then. I was very impressed and being a customer i felt you have given me good treatment and A+ class customer service. If you had try to sell me another tool then, i will have buy as well because i have faith in you, your words and your team.

Fast forward now, after getting many subscribers and selling lifetimes license at 799 now, i see a change.In this thread, you already label 3 customers noob. We are all your customers. Just because we have some opinion on venomseo pro, you are quick to label your customers that. You do not like me calling you a scammer, have you thought that maybe we do not like to be label a noob as well? We all have faith in your software enough to actually pay to try. In this online business where people dun get to see face to face, relationship is the most important. Much more than how advance your software is. You and your friends may feel good after labeling us as noobs. But bare in mind there are many like me who watches threads all the time but we are always willing to pay to try new software. Many like me with not much posts in this forum will know how it is like to be your customer.

Please help me out my removing my email from your list. I do not wish to receive any more offers from your team.

Qillen, your issue was resolved early today, log into your members area, get your license, remember your pass and user is case sensitive, if your still having issues PM me this is a means support for venomseo or pro.

 

[Dan Da Man]

Green Goblin - Very disheartening to see how paying customers are treated by you. I never expected this from you. Now before you even think of flaming me or even replying to my post go to the post made by JoerV866E and reply to all the points mentioned. I agree Jacob is a goon. Look at his last few replies in the VenomSEO thread and anyone can see that.

Yukinari84 - I am baffled to say the least. Can you even begin to explain how you are using VenomSEO Pro? This tool does not even work. It does not register or create any accounts and needless to say how can it verify or even post to accounts that it cannot register or create. I am in agreement with JoerV866E that you guys are backing Green Goblin simply because he is your mate.

shadowcat - If you can also care to explain how you are using VenomSEO Pro I would be very much obliged. I know for a fact that this tool "crashes" every single time and does not work at all.

Looking at Yukinari84 & shadowcat one will get the impression that BHW is a syndicate. I don't believe it is but you guys certainly give that impression when standing up for Green Goblin who openly insults his paying customers not to mention you are praising a tool that does not even work. Now if both of you really say that VenomSEO Pro works then I challenge either one or both of you to post a video of VenomSEO Pro in action. I too can post a video but only of VenomSEO Pro crashing every single time (but I'm sure that's not needed as every single member using VenomSEO Pro will vouch for this fact that it crashes every single time it is run). Let me know if either one of you or even both of you want to take me up on this challenge.

qillen - Sorry for you mate. To be treated like this after paying so much money hurts.

Now for the rest of you guys: VenomSEO Pro does not work. It only crashes every single time it is run, no ifs and buts about it. I would not recommend Senuke though. Instead head over to LinkWheelBandit for the best link wheel building tool ever. Also, the owner Aces is a very nice guy and extremely helpful. He's not going to abuse you like Green Goblin nor will he keep selling more stuff or more licenses for a tool that does not even work. In fact LinkWheelBandit works very well and costs only a fraction at BHW at $47 per month.

PS - No you don't want to know who I am. Trust me I know SEO and I know my tools.

Well, you sound like you know what you are talking about but who are you again? You have ONE post. I would have taken your opinions as some sort of knowledge but then again, you really have nothing to back it up other then you say you know your tools. But, none of us know who the heck you are and I think before you start rambling about a tool, you should at least pay some respect to the forum first. I dont think anyone can or will take any of your advice because for all we know you work for LWB.

 

[panarasgr]

I would go with Senuke X . Much more newbie friendly interface , plus much more automated than Venom . Although , senuke x does the basics , if you want advanced procedures you should go with venom . Venom for advanced users can be more effective.
Sad thing that senuke x is too expensive.

 

[domainmadness]

Just tried both tools.

Have to say Im noob in IM, but Im used to different automation tools so I would not consider myself total noob with these kind of tools.

VenomSEO was buggy from the start. I had some problems to get it even run at all. After I solved those and got it working I noticed that my success rates were so bad that software was useless for me.

Then I just recentely got SenukeX trial and everything has worked great. I can create campaign in minutes, it even automatically scrapes articles and spins those for me. Success rates are high and everything works very well.

Conclusion is, VenomSEO is not ready yet IMO. Go with Senuke.

 

[verdox]

Another vote for Senuke here, I have tried Venom out and it is not there yet. they also need a better team, some marketing, decent website, better documentation, and not to delete forum posts with constructive feedback

Senuke is expensive, but you get what you pay for. Just my 2 cents.

 

[kirkonpolttaja]

Then I just recentely got SenukeX trial and everything has worked great. I can create campaign in minutes, it even automatically scrapes articles and spins those for me. Success rates are high and everything works very well.

Conclusion is, VenomSEO is not ready yet IMO. Go with Senuke.

Yeah SEnukeX is good with ist simple interface which is fast to use, but it all comes with a cost.
-You wont learn SEO so well when it is overly simplified (1-click program)
-as far as i know, SEnukeX has small ammount of directories(?) and every SEnukeX owners are blasting links to those same places which makes those sites useless by not far from this day (overly crowded site... ezine was great some years ago but now after it has been abused quite alot.. i cant see no1 talking about ezine, SEO value has dropped)
-You wont learn any IM related skills (writing a bot and stuff like that... how website forms work example)
-SEnukeX leaves too big footprint, maybe problematic in the future


But yes! it is easy software to master
I see these programs like this:

VenomSEO is best there is, but it needs knowledge if going to use it at its best, you can get cut if you dont respect it (maybe sandbox your site with too much links lol)
This is tool which can be used to kill your competition (by ranking better than them... playing with pictures and words )

But yeah there is much more user friendly option..:

It is 1-button wonder with beautiful casing, but you wont be able to kill your competition with this so well (blades from this thing is behind of that protective mesh )
Yeah you can make good quality trimming with this with little effort, but by time it will become very dull and you have to replace it. When it is dull, you can make your competition suffer by trimming their leg hairs, it will be pain cause it wont cut so well and it will just pull hairs straight off lmao.

But venomBLADE can be always sharpened easily for new projects.


btw. Making bookmark accounts at the moment (~65% success!! so i'm getting over 700 accounts for bookmarking) For those who says that it is constantly crashing, i think there is minor bug with vorc? i chose decaptcher and it is running fine, and dont pay attention those "wrong security answer"-thingys... it is minor bug also.. if you look at created accounts you will see that it is still going and creating new accounts

EDIT: venomseo is
Swiss Army knife

 

[verdox]

But venomBLADE can be always sharpened easily for new projects.

Are you accounting for the menu options that do nothing, or the account signup bugs, the lack of support, the aggresive customer service, the countless complaints here, that sharpended blade is looking a little rusty...

 

[kirkonpolttaja]

Are you accounting for the menu options that do nothing, or the account signup bugs, the lack of support, the aggresive customer service, the countless complaints here, that sharpended blade is looking a little rusty...

I'm using VenomSEO bot + PRO and i dont have anything to complain, i'm good figuring out stuff myself so i have not that much talked with support.

Those menu options are there for us so that we know that those features are coming (PRO is still in beta i think), like video submission its there but we cant use it yet cause it needs to be constructed.

Also i have noticed that not all complaints are valid, people cry that it ALWAYS crashes, i crash only when some setting is wrong like i'm doing something wrong with vorc... its a bug which will be fixed near future, i'm confident

Fortunately rust can be always brushed off from the blade.


IMHO i havent seen any aggressive customer service yet, maybe small frustration cause people dont read and dont have patience.

 

[eterxx]

Green Goblin ? Very disheartening to see how paying customers are treated by you. I never expected this from you. Now before you even think of flaming me or even replying to my post go to the post made by JoerV866E and reply to all the points mentioned. I agree Jacob is a goon. Look at his last few replies in the VenomSEO thread and anyone can see that.

Yukinari84 - I am baffled to say the least. Can you even begin to explain how you are using VenomSEO Pro? This tool does not even work. It does not register or create any accounts and needless to say how can it verify or even post to accounts that it cannot register or create. I am in agreement with JoerV866E that you guys are backing Green Goblin simply because he is your mate.

shadowcat ? If you can also care to explain how you are using VenomSEO Pro I would be very much obliged. I know for a fact that this tool "crashes" every single time and does not work at all.

Looking at Yukinari84 & shadowcat one will get the impression that BHW is a syndicate. I don't believe it is but you guys certainly give that impression when standing up for Green Goblin who openly insults his paying customers not to mention you are praising a tool that does not even work. Now if both of you really say that VenomSEO Pro works then I challenge either one or both of you to post a video of VenomSEO Pro in action. I too can post a video but only of VenomSEO Pro crashing every single time (but I'm sure that's not needed as every single member using VenomSEO Pro will vouch for this fact that it crashes every single time it is run). Let me know if either one of you or even both of you want to take me up on this challenge.

qillen ? Sorry for you mate. To be treated like this after paying so much money hurts.

Now for the rest of you guys: VenomSEO Pro does not work. It only crashes every single time it is run, no ifs and buts about it. I would not recommend Senuke though. Instead head over to LinkWheelBandit for the best link wheel building tool ever. Also, the owner Aces is a very nice guy and extremely helpful. He's not going to abuse you like Green Goblin nor will he keep selling more stuff or more licenses for a tool that does not even work. In fact LinkWheelBandit works very well and costs only a fraction at BHW at $47 per month.

PS ? No you don't want to know who I am. Trust me I know SEO and I know my tools.

1post.. obviously this guy is here to sell Linkwheelbandit so if everyone buy VseoPro he will have less buyers.. just saying
I've tried VseoPro and it only crashes with specific settings.

 

[rody00]

Yeah SEnukeX is good with ist simple interface which is fast to use, but it all comes with a cost.
-You wont learn SEO so well when it is overly simplified (1-click program)
-as far as i know, SEnukeX has small ammount of directories(?) and every SEnukeX owners are blasting links to those same places which makes those sites useless by not far from this day (overly crowded site... ezine was great some years ago but now after it has been abused quite alot.. i cant see no1 talking about ezine, SEO value has dropped)
-You wont learn any IM related skills (writing a bot and stuff like that... how website forms work example)
-SEnukeX leaves too big footprint, maybe problematic in the future


But yes! it is easy software to master
I see these programs like this:

VenomSEO is best there is, but it needs knowledge if going to use it at its best, you can get cut if you dont respect it (maybe sandbox your site with too much links lol)
This is tool which can be used to kill your competition (by ranking better than them... playing with pictures and words )

But yeah there is much more user friendly option..:

It is 1-button wonder with beautiful casing, but you wont be able to kill your competition with this so well (blades from this thing is behind of that protective mesh )
Yeah you can make good quality trimming with this with little effort, but by time it will become very dull and you have to replace it. When it is dull, you can make your competition suffer by trimming their leg hairs, it will be pain cause it wont cut so well and it will just pull hairs straight off lmao.

But venomBLADE can be always sharpened easily for new projects.


btw. Making bookmark accounts at the moment (~65% success!! so i'm getting over 700 accounts for bookmarking) For those who says that it is constantly crashing, i think there is minor bug with vorc? i chose decaptcher and it is running fine, and dont pay attention those "wrong security answer"-thingys... it is minor bug also.. if you look at created accounts you will see that it is still going and creating new accounts

EDIT: venomseo is
Swiss Army knife

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

PS: Scrapebox is my Swiss Army knife

 

[Yukinari84]

Green Goblin - Very disheartening to see how paying customers are treated by you. I never expected this from you. Now before you even think of flaming me or even replying to my post go to the post made by JoerV866E and reply to all the points mentioned. I agree Jacob is a goon. Look at his last few replies in the VenomSEO thread and anyone can see that.

Yukinari84 - I am baffled to say the least. Can you even begin to explain how you are using VenomSEO Pro? This tool does not even work. It does not register or create any accounts and needless to say how can it verify or even post to accounts that it cannot register or create. I am in agreement with JoerV866E that you guys are backing Green Goblin simply because he is your mate.

shadowcat - If you can also care to explain how you are using VenomSEO Pro I would be very much obliged. I know for a fact that this tool "crashes" every single time and does not work at all.

Looking at Yukinari84 & shadowcat one will get the impression that BHW is a syndicate. I don't believe it is but you guys certainly give that impression when standing up for Green Goblin who openly insults his paying customers not to mention you are praising a tool that does not even work. Now if both of you really say that VenomSEO Pro works then I challenge either one or both of you to post a video of VenomSEO Pro in action. I too can post a video but only of VenomSEO Pro crashing every single time (but I'm sure that's not needed as every single member using VenomSEO Pro will vouch for this fact that it crashes every single time it is run). Let me know if either one of you or even both of you want to take me up on this challenge.

qillen - Sorry for you mate. To be treated like this after paying so much money hurts.

Now for the rest of you guys: VenomSEO Pro does not work. It only crashes every single time it is run, no ifs and buts about it. I would not recommend Senuke though. Instead head over to LinkWheelBandit for the best link wheel building tool ever. Also, the owner Aces is a very nice guy and extremely helpful. He's not going to abuse you like Green Goblin nor will he keep selling more stuff or more licenses for a tool that does not even work. In fact LinkWheelBandit works very well and costs only a fraction at BHW at $47 per month.

PS - No you don't want to know who I am. Trust me I know SEO and I know my tools.

God, this thread is starting to remind me of the Scrapebox threads when it first came out.

1. BHW is not a syndicate; it is a team. Anyone that truly contributes to the forum is part of that team. If you want to be part of the team, then I suggest you and any others wasting BHW's space by just complaining actually try to contribute more than complaints.

2. I never said V SEO Pro is perfect. In fact I said the opposite. It does have some bugs. So does SENuke, and every piece of software out there. I was a Beta Tester for X and I can tell you that the some of the bugs it had from day 1 are still being ironed out.

Automation software is not just as simple as creating it. There is a MASSIVE amount of work to be done in the background CONSTANTLY. Thus, bugs appear.

I know that the V SEO team is doing everything they can to get things ironed out as fast as possible, so in the mean time you have 2 options:

1. Learn to work with the tool and its current capabilities.
2. Waste time complaining about every little thing.

Just remember that it takes absolutely no skill whatsoever to complain.
IMHO, complaining is just an excuse to not do anything at all. If you truly want to excel, learn to keep moving forward no matter what obstacle is in your way.

 

[kirkonpolttaja]

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

PS: Scrapebox is my Swiss Army knife

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k

 

[rizki1517]

I want to buy venom seo pro, what price should I pay? whether venom seo pro support forum profile? whether venom seo pro give feature diagram designer? currently I use Senuke, and I get great results. but the price I pay every month is very expensive, so I want to find another software that is better than Senuke but with cheaper prices.

 

[gz_cp]

We need more video tutorials for venom and pro.

 

[GreenGoblin]

We need more video tutorials for venom and pro.

i agree, i have some videos on the way in days to come, just having them finished.

 

[gz_cp]

i agree, i have some videos on the way in days to come, just having them finished.

Scrapebox and some other tools' continous (business) success is due to their aggressive use of youtube to market their products (in forms of tutorials), even getting to a point where they exhaust the contents and they start talking about the same thing again and again. But this is very effective in expanding the audience, while enhencing customer loyalty.

 

[bstsystems]

I really don't understand why people keep going on about venom.

Venom has maybe 20% of the number of sites that SEnuke X has and the success rate on even those 20% of the sites is dismal. All the threads get stuck very regularly. I've had to stop and restart submission no less than 5 times to get through maybe 30 sites.

If you guys want versatility, Magic Submitter has existed for a long time. Adding websites into that is much easier by creating browser macros with a few clicks. Venom scripting will use sockets automation so it will NOT be easy for a non-programmer to add sites. Trust me on this one. You will need to know regex, a decent knowledge of intercepting HTTP POST/GET requests and some javascript for automating the AJAX driven sites. Only programmers (or those close to it) will be able to add custom sites.

I'm trying Senukex right now, and it is good, but I'm also going to try venomseo pro to see which one I like better, because it has a free trial. But, I can tell you right now, it would be a huge mistake on their part to require people to have programming knowledge to add sites to the program. But the biggest reason that I "might" choose senukex is due to its visual designer.

 

[macdonjo3]

VemonSEO + Keyword Scout will give you double the features for the same price.

 

[bliko]

senuke x is always the safer way to go you cant go wrong there so your money will be well spent

 

[omida86]

reinrein is one of the most skilled coders of the SEO community. Even though venomseo is not very userfriendly atm, when it becomes userfriendly it will own everything...