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[Zyxzed]

Depends for the first month and how you upscale your first website from me. Some clients have reached $500+ already their first month.

Can any1 nice plz explain what actually means upscale your site from WTF.

You do it yourself? how?

I'm not sure what WTF meant on this one.

If any1 understands it plz be kind to tell me. Thanks!

 

[summersgone]

I started receiving traffic to my site around the beginning of April.
So far just made over $50 for my $200 investment.

That looks fine for me, because I'm in no rush to make money,
would even buy again...but something maybe wrong in dream land.
I use the services of woopra, and it shows me where the traffic
comes from, mostly from Thailand, Russia or other eastern
countries, not to many from North America.
woopra also shows me that these visitors are all, in majority,
from WTF website (as a referrer) and also these visitors have come
to my site 10 times or more in the last 3 days.
My site is static, no reason for any one to come back
3 or 4 times to read 4 small pages of info.

Luckily, i guess, most of my clicks come from USA, UK or Australia.
But it still worries me to maybe lose my adsense account for this
kind of traffic.

One more thing, don't know if this is normal, but yesterday
I got two clicks and I was not paid for them...red flag ? [FONT=&quot]:dunno:[/FONT]

I would tell all of this to WTF, but I rarely can contact him, but
I guess he will have to read it here.

i also worry about this, i noticed that the traffic referrer which is detected on my google analytics is WTF's site, but when i open his site, there is no single link/hyperlink pointing at my site.

Update: The traffic has now converted. Today I earned $1.21 from 1 click and 125 ads impressions.

 

[diablo]

i also worry about this, i noticed that the traffic referrer which is detected on my google analytics is WTF's site, but when i open his site, there is no single link/hyperlink pointing at my site.

Update: The traffic has now converted. Today I earned $1.21 from 1 click and 125 ads impressions.

I believe if you click on WTF's link you mention before, it'll go redirected to your site. Maybe, it's served as normal traffic, because WTF will rotate to all of his client's sites evenly. while he also serve super-targeted traffic somewhere else. Maybe that's explaining why normal traffic now decreasing not 500-1000/day just like used to be, because he was rotating to less clients then he has now.

We all hope better service from WTF, since he himself mention Website Domination Service and hopefully better income from these sites.

 

[wholesalereplica]

in your responses yesterday you seem to have forgot me, I have emailed numerous times, tried on yahoo etc but still nothing at all from you

 

[Zyxzed]

wtf plz reply to me and tell me how I know when my normal traffic has run out and when I need to buy it again? THANKS!

 

[Kudlit]

FINALLY!

The site I ordered from WTF is now receiving traffic and a few clicks. I even got a $1.20 click. That's right, $1.20 for just one click.

I hope this continues and I also hope that you put up a system to notify your customers once the traffic we bought has run out. That would make it easier for us to monitor conversion and also tell us when to order more traffic.

 

[Kudlit]

Double Post

 

[ron.ray]

"Hi Ron, your website should be completed today - I mistaken you from another client named Ray which was doing the same exact niche as you were. Please bear with me as I want to give you a great looking website for your niche. Thanks"

:bsflag:


Hi WTF , it's been 10 days since you said that my website will be ready "today" and all i got is a jpg from you , what's going on with it ?

WTF - this is ridiculous, why can't you simply finish this job ?
your not building rockets you know ! it's a simple one micro niche site , nothing clever !!
i made 29 sites like this one since i ordered from you (39 DAYS AGO!), actually the only two reasons i ordered this is to check if this would speed up my process and if your traffic worth anything ...
now, when i need good laugh i remind myself that I actually considered this for speeding up my process ... in the time i spent writing this posts and sending you mails i could have built at least 2 micro niche sites ... it's just pisses off so much that i can't ignore it ... :cussing:

 

[diablo]

Just ordered 200 super targeted traffic for my 2nd site. Hope this one convert better then the first run. Got $28 profit in 6 days. WTF, please activate it right away bro...

 

[Kudlit]

He he really should stop accepting more jobs until he finishes the existing orders.

 

[sinclair]

Idea: enter in a competitive niche;get fast ROI(super traffic) ;reinvest in backlinks and flip it in about 6 month.......

interim result:got a plain site with seo friendly articles; on-site seo about 80% perfect... In normal way I never accept a site like this, but he told me that this site has to earn money and it will...We will see, when the traffic comes and G shows results.

At the moment I don`t know, when the show starts, but two days ago I could see first flows.
So far I got one click($0.78) and anything under 40 visits(04/28)...I hope this is not the result of this kind of special traffic...If yes...You don`t need a calculater to see when I gonna break even. Beam me up,hehe
PLZ pm, when I can estimate with the traffic...I am hungry

 

[aulachappy]

If you ever make money, that's because the super targeted traffic, not the site. Why ? because when the super targeted traffic stops, you will need to buy it more or the earning stops.

Ok, so why can't we order a website like this with $50 ( with me it's already expensive even with $40 ) else where and buy his super targeted traffic with $140 ? That's will be $50 / broad traffic, and 600 super targeted traffics ( $90 ). Total cost is $50 + $140 = $190 for a site like this with broad traffic and 6 packages of super targeted traffic.

Assume $15 brings back $40 for diablo, so with $190, you can earn back $240 Gross profit ( $50 Net profit ) already . You see the point ?

But no, you can't do that because WTF only accepts traffic for his members, so that means you must buy website from him - with a price 3-4 times more expensive. Not mention about the deadline, the customer support and you can not control the traffic when it's expired.

Now you see why he used Google Checkout, but not Paypal. And which one know the way to get refund form GG Checkout, please share it here for any members necessity.

Idea: enter in a competitive niche;get fast ROI(super traffic) ;reinvest in backlinks and flip it in about 6 month.......

interim result:got a plain site with seo friendly articles; on-site seo about 80% perfect... In normal way I never accept a site like this, but he told me that this site has to earn money and it will...We will see, when the traffic comes and G shows results.

At the moment I don`t know, when the show starts, but two days ago I could see first flows.
So far I got one click($0.78) and anything under 40 visits(04/28)...I hope this is not the result of this kind of special traffic...If yes...You don`t need a calculater to see when I gonna break even. Beam me up,hehe
PLZ pm, when I can estimate with the traffic...I am hungry

 

[Zyxzed]

Hi guys.

For me, the first week was converting well, but the second one (I bought super targeted traffic from WTF - 15$)

is not going well! 3 days ago = 0.19 CPC!
2 days ago = 0.12 CPC!

those 2 days got me only 4$ ! each day = 2$

while in the first week the income was better.

this is kinda low I think.

for me it goes like this:

each day u get ~ page views: 386 and 9clicks.

I asked wtf what's going on with the traffic and why doesn't it convert well anymore,

and he said I should do more seo, get more backlinks.
or get more junk traffic.

so that means, I have to invest more in this?

I thought this was a "he does the job" service? [
and now it seems I have to do other stuff to the income to just break-even sucesss?

come on ... what should I do now? Get some service to give me more backlinks,or even buying other junk traffic and pray it will actually get me some clicks? or what.. again $$ spending, and who knows will this even pay out.

I'm kind of discouraged by how all this is going.

 

[Zyxzed]

If you ever make money, that's because the super targeted traffic, not the site. Why ? because when the super targeted traffic stops, you will need to buy it more or the earning stops.

Yeah bro. I see the point. and I simply don't get it how we could flip the site when the site itself doesn't actually make money, but rather u have to buy traffic from WTF all the time to make site's income. How is that gonna work on flippa? is that even ok with their rules? If the sites DO convert well, and it IS under flippas rules ok to do that - than we are ok.


Ok, so why can't we order a website like this with $50 ( with me it's already expensive even with $40 ) else where and buy his super targeted traffic with $140 ? That's will be $50 / broad traffic, and 600 super targeted traffics ( $90 ). Total cost is $50 + $140 = $190 for a site like this with broad traffic and 6 packages of super targeted traffic.

Assume $15 brings back $40 for diablo, so with $190, you can earn back $240 Gross profit ( $50 Net profit ) already . You see the point ?

But no, you can't do that because WTF only accepts traffic for his members, so that means you must buy website from him - with a price 3-4 times more expensive. Not mention about the deadline, the customer support and you can not control the traffic when it's expired.I agree bro. The deadline and costumer support (he didn't even bother to finish the convo we haid on yahoo IM yesturday! are the worst part here. But the sites look ok, and the income ~ I can't really tell yet - we gotta see..

Now you see why he used Google Checkout, but not Paypal. And which one know the way to get refund form GG Checkout, please share it here for any members necessity.also interested.

income: from april 20
to april 30
I got 56$ from the site he made + the traffic.
- the 15$ traffic I bought= 41$. thats still nice. Even I did buy the other traffic pack (15$ again) which isn't converting as well as it should, it comes to 26$. - but yet again this isn't something to be measured as the 2nd super targeted traffic pack hasn't yet ran out, I believe the actual income ($) will go even higher, so I will have to calculate it again when the 2nd super targeted traffic pack finishes.

 

[aulachappy]

You can sell the site on Flippa, there's nothing wrong with the paid traffic or the site. The only wrong thing here is his misleading promotion.

I agree his customers can sell their sites for price of thousands or more, but they can only do that if they put more efforts/money in the backlinks, articles, etc.... not with his paid traffic.

When the traffic stops, the earnings do either, the site is nothing than a micro-niche site. So why, why do customer have to buy a site with 5-pages, nothing special, not on Top 10, not a single backlink, not a dime earning from anything with the price of $1000 - $10,000 as he said ?

I also believe you can get back your initial investment, by a small calculation here :

Assume $15 traffic = $35 avarage ( Remember he has never guaranteed you anything, though the title of this thread state that guarantee adsense earning, even if $15 brings you back $15 or $1 )

$200 + $135 ( targeted traffic ) = $335 in total, you will have 10 super targeted traffic packages which will earn you $35*10 = $350

That's the necessary of money you need in first month to quick recover your initial investment but with the condition : each $15 must get back a minimum of $35 ( this is what I try to ask the OP how minimum does he guarantee you will make ? The answer : Depend on niche, so what the h*ll does he guarantee here ? )

It's clear that if $15 make less than $35 for 10 packages, you need to put more money in to get back the investment. I'm sorry but with $335, it's more than enough for a micro-site rank in #1 position, not only top 10 and earn me a money without touching the site anymore.

income: from april 20
to april 30
I got 56$ from the site he made + the traffic.
- the 15$ traffic I bought= 41$. thats still nice. Even I did buy the other traffic pack (15$ again) which isn't converting as well as it should, it comes to 26$. - but yet again this isn't something to be measured as the 2nd super targeted traffic pack hasn't yet ran out, I believe the actual income ($) will go even higher, so I will have to calculate it again when the 2nd super targeted traffic pack finishes.

 

[mellowfellow]

It's more than a break even proposition. I can see that you are aiming towards the adsense sites. First you will spend $200 for let's say the blue package. That is the cost for 1 website + traffic 500-1000 visitors per day + 100 initial adsense niche content traffic which will make you $50-$100 back onto your adsense account. Then you spend another $15 to make another $50-$100 on your website. Then after the 30 days, you will need to buy another 500-1000 visitors per day which will cost roughly $50.

Hope this helped! Maybe I should create a video later when I get home lol.

anyone making $50-100 on their $15 investment?

 

[MnLGmz]

Which solutions you think that can allow me to do about 1000-2000 USD per month at least, and how many time it take to reach this number?

 

[diablo]

Update:

My 1st site since 26 Apr spend $65 for normal traffic + 100 super targeted traffic, and earn $37.85. So I profit $22.85 only from super targeted traffic investment

Now I think my super targeted traffic has run out, keep contacting lalamaple but still no answer how to order again.

My 2nd site is still not generating income since I purchase at 29 Apr, because somehow my 200 super targeted traffic still not serving yet

 

[Zyxzed]

You can sell the site on Flippa, there's nothing wrong with the paid traffic or the site. The only wrong thing here is his misleading promotion.

I agree his customers can sell their sites for price of thousands or more, but they can only do that if they put more efforts/money in the backlinks, articles, etc.... not with his paid traffic.

When the traffic stops, the earnings do either, the site is nothing than a micro-niche site. So why, why do customer have to buy a site with 5-pages, nothing special, not on Top 10, not a single backlink, not a dime earning from anything with the price of $1000 - $10,000 as he said ?

bro I ain't doing anything for this site - we were promised what we were promised - and that's what I count on - and will do.
I also believe you can get back your initial investment, by a small calculation here :

Assume $15 traffic = $35 avarage ( Remember he has never guaranteed you anything, though the title of this thread state that guarantee adsense earning, even if $15 brings you back $15 or $1 )

$200 + $135 ( targeted traffic ) = $335 in total, you will have 10 super targeted traffic packages which will earn you $35*10 = $350

That's the necessary of money you need in first month to quick recover your initial investment but with the condition : each $15 must get back a minimum of $35 ( this is what I try to ask the OP how minimum does he guarantee you will make ? The answer : Depend on niche, so what the h*ll does he guarantee here ? ) Thats right. And the 15$ packs aren't getting minimum 35$. So that means we will have to wait further to pay out our site.? I just wish this thing to work well..

It's clear that if $15 make less than $35 for 10 packages, you need to put more money in to get back the investment. I'm sorry but with $335, it's more than enough for a micro-site rank in #1 position, not only top 10 and earn me a money without touching the site anymore.

anyone making $50-100 on their $15 investment?

Seems not bro.
Yesturday I earned 2.87€
today I earn 2.1€

that's just not the income for a 200$ service!


I have a lot of understanding for WTF but he seems gone to me.At least from this topic, in the last ~10days? WTF can you PLEASE respond to all these questions??

I really don't know what to think anymore ..

I was so happy the first week went well and now this

let's hope WTF will fix all this soon

 

[UrbanMyth]

Not looking good is it folks. I know WTF has been on here today but has nothing to say.