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Hi, All

I'm gonn a give an honest opinion here about. WTF work. The only complaint I had with him was communication. and time deadlines, I know these are very important factors when you are trying to start up a web business.

But apart from that the extra week or two wait was worth it. he does produce a nice result at the end of the day. I think he just got overwhelmed with orders.

Even though at certain points of the project I got very frustrated. I would use his services again. he was very helpful and easy to work with. I would just know I would probably have to wait a bit longer.
 
Yes no one ever know that. So that we have something called "guaranteed adsense income" here.

Who needs prediction ? You can even predict the website will make $500-$1000 or more, it's meaningless . Dont ever fall for this "kind of promise". What we need here, is a minimum guaranteed income from adsense, not some kind of "this one will earn about $20/day, or $600/month" and blah blah blah...

If he guaranteed you will make money from your $200 and you don't care how much,so $1 is nothing different compare to $100 with you right ? As long as it makes money, even $200 get you back $1, you also feel that's enough, I'm not sure if that's what you mean ?

I think "100 visitors will convert $50 - $100" is just a prediction of income from WTF experience, can be in between, can be less. This is something we can't control, big G decide.

Can he guarantee to make money... yes is the answer. BUT, how much you gonna earn/day from these..? you'll never know...even WTF himself.
 
Yes no one ever know that. So that we have something called "guaranteed adsense income" here.

Who needs prediction ? You can even predict the website will make $500-$1000 or more, it's meaningless . Dont ever fall for this "kind of promise". What we need here, is a minimum guaranteed income from adsense, not some kind of "this one will earn about $20/day, or $600/month" and blah blah blah...

If he guaranteed you will make money from your $200 and you don't care how much,so $1 is nothing different compare to $100 with you right ? As long as it makes money, even $200 get you back $1, you also feel that's enough, I'm not sure if that's what you mean ?

I do not mean that. of course we all hope we could make around $50-100 per $15 spent on super targeted traffic. I just said maybe that's from WTF's prediction. depend on niche you choose too. I myself do not satisfy with the income generated lately. thats why I ask service improvement from WTF.
 
Hey, can I get a reply from you? You said my super targeted traffic was expired. I want to buy the traffic! Really get sick of waiting your reply.

Status now:
I paid for $200, and I'm getting back $24 income. And I need to pay for another $15 for super targeted traffic. But getting no reply from WTF.
 
i must admit the conversion is very poor,
got about 500 impressions on ads today,, but no single conversion made .. :15:
 
Yes, I agree that the income may vary, depends on many factors, include the niche of your choice. So why you did choose his service, but not another web-designer with the price even cheaper, faster delivery and better support ?

WTF got problems with deadline, customer support, then why you and some others still choose him ? Because of the "Guaranteed Adsense Income" he provided, right ?

There's nothing wrong if you could make $50-$100. My point is, how much minimum did he guarantee you will make ? Did he said that you will make "at least $50 and as much as $100" ? NO, he didn't. I've read through the thread here and at WF, he's never guaranteed such things.

You ask him for improvement from WTF, I hope you'll success with that since I think many others also want the improvement. But, allow me to remind you this : He just guarantees you will make money, even $0.01 is also proved that you've made money from adsense. If you make less than you've expected, that's not his concern.

I do not mean that. of course we all hope we could make around $50-100 per $15 spent on super targeted traffic. I just said maybe that's from WTF's prediction. depend on niche you choose too. I myself do not satisfy with the income generated lately. thats why I ask service improvement from WTF.
 
Hey WTF, how is my website coming along? I emailed you the adsense codes a few days ago. Thanks!

Hey mate,

sent you a PM and email

Replied to you mate

5 - How long will it take to setup my website, and will you set everything up?
Yes, we will set everything up from a-z within 3-7 days. We will deliver your website directly onto your host (and if you don't have one we can help you get one), and we will also take care of all necessary changes such as your domain name servers, hosting, file uploads, payment processing, affiliate links, adsense ads, etc.)



what payment process can u offer on these sites ..... ??

Yes I can do all that as I have done with all my clients - some clients didn't even have to touch literally anything but just give me their cpanel and I did everything myself.

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I have the website up WTF. Still no traffic or earnings though. I'm eagerly waiting.

"Hey mate, please contact me via email"

I did. Several times now. I'll try one more time. I haven't given my review on Google Check-out yet. I'm giving you a chance to give me good service.

Hey Kudlit, could you get in touch with me on yahoo - I believe your traffic is being sent already?

by the way, I sent my emails via your [email protected] account. Is that the correct email address I should try to get hold of you?

Hey mate, I believe your website is already sending traffic since a couple of days ago.

The traffic WTF sent did not convert well with my site on credit repairs. I earned $0. I take it as a lost and moved on with my life.

I hope everybody else on here make money.

Hey Ray, could you contact me on yahoo - you should be earning now mate.

So you mean I spent $200 to get $21 as return of investment and I have to spend another $15 to buy the traffic?

Hi Black, yes usually the first run the conversions are a bit slower than the 2nd or 3rd run.

Well I just finished reading all 9 pages of this thread and am not convinced that this is a good and long-term investment. I was hoping this was something I could do for my kids as an extra income business, but, like someone else said here, I will also wait and see if WTF's service improves and buyer's earnings pile up as promised by OP.

JD

Thanks mate

Some other members from his thread at warriorforum are in the same situation.

I think we need to make clear this thing : What's the minimum earning in first month does he guarantee ? $200 to get back $20-$50 = the cost of the website is somewhere $150-$180, way too expensive for the micro niche site without any offsite SEO.

The earning from that range is damn low with paid traffic, and the traffic cost is too high. What if $15 bring back $15 or lower, is there any guarantee to make at least double of the cost or something ?

The earnings all depend on your niche, and the traffic sent but as a general estimate usually around $30-$50+ the first run.

$180 for a website doesn't sound bad at all. I don't make sites for less than $500. If reviews get better I may purchase, will wait and see.

Thanks mate

i have to agree here, sites are way to expensive, i get the feeling the guy saying his mini sites are $500 plus is talking out of his mini assssssss lol possibly a friend of the OP of this thread trying to back him up but seems to be going down hill and no breaks working.

It depends on where your getting your mini sites and if they make money. A handful of members here have made back and tripled their initial investment so far.

WTF - Sent you a PM.
cos I'm going offline now, and I don't know do u need me online or not.
Thanks.

Ok thanks zyxzed, let me know and update me on your earnings via yahoo.

Hi WTF...when my 2nd site will get the normal & super targeted traffic? FYI, income is decreasing now for the 1st site, I've seen 1 impression with 1 click, but 0 income. Any idea what happen?

Thanks..

Hey diablo, please contact me on yahoo mate. Thanks

seems the average earnings from these site is $0 - $20 lol after paying up to $200.
so in answer to ur question, i think what has happened is obvious, someone got richer , and it wasnt u , or anyone who bought this service.

The traffic for those people have started a couple of days ago and they are earning income now.

After 100 super targeted visitors all came to your site, your website will stop receiving clicks, simply as that. I'm not sure $50 traffic package will bring you any clicks, but from all the feedbacks I got here and at warriorforum, I think that traffic package is useless.

You just need to ask wtf one question : How much is the minimum earning from adsense for first month traffic ? He guaranteed that you will earn money with adsense. Okay, but how much ? $1, $10, $100 ?

Depends for the first month and how you upscale your first website from me. Some clients have reached $500+ already their first month.

WTF, I sent you a pm yesterday, and this morning. Will you clarify if you did the site or not.

Thanks

Hey kram, I've already sent you the optimized site for your client.

Hey WTF - just tried to contact u on Yahoo, and on PM here on BHW.

Plz reply, I'm rly counting on u and after all this topic-bashing(bad commenting) I still trust u.
/sry for my bad eng, it's not my native lang
tnx!

Hey mate, thanks already contacted you

Seems our 'income adsense' experience become harder to make a break even on our $200 investment. Because somehow it's not generating as high as it used to be. Maybe traffic quality is not the same anymore? WTF what do you say about this?

Hi Diablo, already contacted you about this on yahoo

WTF has finally got back to me and has started the traffic but no clicks yet. Don't know why he doesn't respond in this thread.

Hey Urban, please update me on yahoo with your earnings

WTF - please respond to my PM's.
Something is not right with the traffic.

Thanks!

Responded mate

the traffic for my site has been started since yesterday , and still got no any conversion yet .. :(

Hi Summers, please update me on yahoo with your earnings

Hi, All

I'm gonn a give an honest opinion here about. WTF work. The only complaint I had with him was communication. and time deadlines, I know these are very important factors when you are trying to start up a web business.

But apart from that the extra week or two wait was worth it. he does produce a nice result at the end of the day. I think he just got overwhelmed with orders.

Even though at certain points of the project I got very frustrated. I would use his services again. he was very helpful and easy to work with. I would just know I would probably have to wait a bit longer.

Thank you AtomicBudgie, glad your business is starting off well! We'll keep in touch via yahoo

Hey, can I get a reply from you? You said my super targeted traffic was expired. I want to buy the traffic! Really get sick of waiting your reply.

Status now:
I paid for $200, and I'm getting back $24 income. And I need to pay for another $15 for super targeted traffic. But getting no reply from WTF.

Hi Black, I've sent you the invoice mate - please contact me on yahoo if you haven't received it in your email?

i must admit the conversion is very poor,
got about 500 impressions on ads today,, but no single conversion made .. :15:

Hi Summers, might be something wrong with your adsense code! Please contact me on yahoo asap.

As far as the other orders, sorry it's taking me a bit of time to finish them but you are going to get your websites / traffic shortly. I believe I have only a couple of sites that I haven't finished which I am finishing up for you guys. The targeted traffic is the key to your website's success! :)

Cheers
 
We all know that the earning's depended on the niche right ? So that's the reason why we need your guarantee. Now I ask you how minimum is your guarantee ? You told me back :" That's depend on the niche", I'm sorry but that's damn ridiculous here.

Backlinks and offsite SEO are belong to customer's business, you don't need to care about that. If they want to boost their income, they will do that themselves. Your business is let them know which level of income you will give them if they don't do anything - 100% hands-off, and the incomes come 100% from your traffic.

Your promotion picture ( i56.tinypic.com/2a933nd.jpg ) : 232 clicks with $122.76 . Any of your customers did reach 232 clicks with 100 super targeted visitor ( Dont count backlinks, offsite SEO, or anything else besides your traffic here ) ?

Anyone here reachs this without doing any backlinks, please share it here and we can know how many percent, or even how many people of his customers can achieve this ? 100 visitors bring back 232 clicks, that's not super targeted traffic, but magical targeted traffic .


The earnings all depend on your niche, and the traffic sent but as a general estimate usually around $30-$50+ the first run
 
Update time.

Traffic to my site started on 22nd April. Earnings so far just over $30 and still climbing. This is still from my initial investment.

WTF still needs to improve his customer service. I also think that he needs to improve in other ways such as letting his customers know when the super targeted adsense traffic has finished so that we can buy more at the right time and keep the earnings coming in on a regular basis. I think this is important as we don't want the conversions to be sporadic as this may raise a red flag.
 
Hi WTF
i would like to signup Gold package, are you still able to cope?
And will you able to choose the niche?
 
Update:

My 1st site since 4 Apr spend $60 for 400 super targeted traffic and earn $165.03 ending 5 days ago. So I profit $105.03

Now my normal & super targeted traffic all running out, so I just spend $65 for normal traffic + 100 super targeted traffic to my site.

My 2nd site is now generating $32.37 from WTF initial traffic package after building my site. maybe my super targeted traffic will run out in 1-2 days later.
 
I started receiving traffic to my site around the beginning of April.
So far just made over $50 for my $200 investment.

That looks fine for me, because I'm in no rush to make money,
would even buy again...but something maybe wrong in dream land.
I use the services of woopra, and it shows me where the traffic
comes from, mostly from Thailand, Russia or other eastern
countries, not to many from North America.
woopra also shows me that these visitors are all, in majority,
from WTF website (as a referrer) and also these visitors have come
to my site 10 times or more in the last 3 days.
My site is static, no reason for any one to come back
3 or 4 times to read 4 small pages of info.

Luckily, i guess, most of my clicks come from USA, UK or Australia.
But it still worries me to maybe lose my adsense account for this
kind of traffic.

One more thing, don't know if this is normal, but yesterday
I got two clicks and I was not paid for them...red flag ? [FONT=&quot]:dunno:[/FONT]

I would tell all of this to WTF, but I rarely can contact him, but
I guess he will have to read it here.
 
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Update:

My 1st site since 4 Apr spend $60 for 400 super targeted traffic and earn $165.03 ending 5 days ago. So I profit $105.03

Now my normal & super targeted traffic all running out, so I just spend $65 for normal traffic + 100 super targeted traffic to my site.

My 2nd site is now generating $32.37 from WTF initial traffic package after building my site. maybe my super targeted traffic will run out in 1-2 days later.

How do you know when your super targeted traffic has run out?
 
hey WTF

i tried to PM and email you but it seems like you tend to respond more on this thread.

Its been a month already and i have not received any clicks from you. Any updates????
 
I'm still not getting any traffic. NADA.

Can't reach you via yahoo messenger because of our time difference. Please get this resolved ASAP.
 
very interested but i think i'll wait a bit until i see consistant results.
 
very interested but i think i'll wait a bit until i see consistant results.
 
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