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How about a reputation system change?
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|BlackMarket|
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- Nov 10, 2010
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At first i really want to stay away from this topic to avoid any -rep from immature people or can i say kiddo from this forum. But again, if i stay away hence i will look like a coward and i am just the same like those kiddo who giving or abusing the -rep.
Ok dont get me wrong, i'm posting this not because i'm begging on getting rep but i am more concern on those people who have this privilege but abuse it in a very immature manner.
Today i got -rep by an immature creature who wrote 'shut up' and it is just because of a post which i stand up to it and raised my concern on it in one of the BB's thread. I believe anyone (even a newbie) can speak up freely in BHW using the open thread/post but hitting back via the -rep is purely a sissy way and just because you worried that people might know who you are, it doesn't mean that you can simply use the rep (especially when you abuse the privilege).
If you guys follow closely on the G00b3r the G00f3r case, HaRRo did mentioned that we are not supposed to be afraid of anyone even a Mod/Mod in Training or even the Exec Vip/Jr Vip if it is proven that they did something wrong. Hence i shoot pm to HaRRo and raised the concern on the -rep towards me and within few hours HaRRo replied and he have banned the fella who -rep (immature -rep of course) me and he deleted the -rep.
Let us back-track:
-negative rep are not given to newbie because we are worried that its going to be abuse
-negative rep are given to Jr Vip and above because we assume that they are matured enough to think wisely
But it is proven otherwise and honest if we are matured enough (Like Wiz said in one of the thread) instead of giving -rep why dont you manly enough reply in a proper manner in the thread itself. Dont you think that -rep is for those pussy who want to hide their name behind the repping system?
What i want to suggest is that a close monitoring system on the repping should be implemented. We should assign one Mod to handle the rep complaint and banned the member who miss-use the rep or giving nonsense/irrelevant rep to other members. Because once you implemented a strict rules, then only people will afraid and they will definitely adhere to any guideline. Its like in the real life, with strict rules by the government then only we adhere to it.
The main concern here is not about giving -rep, yes you can freely give it if you think it is appropriate. But it is more to abusing the power and immaturely giving stupid -rep to other members.
Do i need to say 'have we learned from our mistake in the G00b3r the G00f3r case?'
It is all started from a power that you have and the greed conquered our mind to abuse it and all it takes is just a small immature attitude. But long enough this type of people will turn up become a scammer if we gave them more power or privilege.
Everything BIG starts SMALL.....SCAM-GREED-ABUSE
Its time to clean up the mess and one person alone cant do this as it takes the whole community to stand up and give a helping hand if you want BHW to be respected and get rid of all this scammers and immature people.
I have 19 rep now as we speak (thanks guys), but if you see the numbers are dropping just because this post where i stand up for what is right. Then you guys should think of what i said. Not that i'm concern on the rep but just to proof that i am right and do take my suggestion (and others) seriously before good and nice people leaving this forum and what left is all the G00f3R family....
HaRRo - PM sent. Someone need to led this for the betterment of the community.
Ok dont get me wrong, i'm posting this not because i'm begging on getting rep but i am more concern on those people who have this privilege but abuse it in a very immature manner.
Today i got -rep by an immature creature who wrote 'shut up' and it is just because of a post which i stand up to it and raised my concern on it in one of the BB's thread. I believe anyone (even a newbie) can speak up freely in BHW using the open thread/post but hitting back via the -rep is purely a sissy way and just because you worried that people might know who you are, it doesn't mean that you can simply use the rep (especially when you abuse the privilege).
If you guys follow closely on the G00b3r the G00f3r case, HaRRo did mentioned that we are not supposed to be afraid of anyone even a Mod/Mod in Training or even the Exec Vip/Jr Vip if it is proven that they did something wrong. Hence i shoot pm to HaRRo and raised the concern on the -rep towards me and within few hours HaRRo replied and he have banned the fella who -rep (immature -rep of course) me and he deleted the -rep.
Let us back-track:
-negative rep are not given to newbie because we are worried that its going to be abuse
-negative rep are given to Jr Vip and above because we assume that they are matured enough to think wisely
But it is proven otherwise and honest if we are matured enough (Like Wiz said in one of the thread) instead of giving -rep why dont you manly enough reply in a proper manner in the thread itself. Dont you think that -rep is for those pussy who want to hide their name behind the repping system?
What i want to suggest is that a close monitoring system on the repping should be implemented. We should assign one Mod to handle the rep complaint and banned the member who miss-use the rep or giving nonsense/irrelevant rep to other members. Because once you implemented a strict rules, then only people will afraid and they will definitely adhere to any guideline. Its like in the real life, with strict rules by the government then only we adhere to it.
The main concern here is not about giving -rep, yes you can freely give it if you think it is appropriate. But it is more to abusing the power and immaturely giving stupid -rep to other members.
Do i need to say 'have we learned from our mistake in the G00b3r the G00f3r case?'
It is all started from a power that you have and the greed conquered our mind to abuse it and all it takes is just a small immature attitude. But long enough this type of people will turn up become a scammer if we gave them more power or privilege.
Everything BIG starts SMALL.....SCAM-GREED-ABUSE
Its time to clean up the mess and one person alone cant do this as it takes the whole community to stand up and give a helping hand if you want BHW to be respected and get rid of all this scammers and immature people.
I have 19 rep now as we speak (thanks guys), but if you see the numbers are dropping just because this post where i stand up for what is right. Then you guys should think of what i said. Not that i'm concern on the rep but just to proof that i am right and do take my suggestion (and others) seriously before good and nice people leaving this forum and what left is all the G00f3R family....
HaRRo - PM sent. Someone need to led this for the betterment of the community.
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IamNRE
Elite Member
- Aug 18, 2010
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The system needs a change I too have some stupid neg. comments like:
asshole slackers like you
pointless
That is a Bullshit thread to Open
dumb fool
fu.k off, stupid spammer
douchebag
for being rude to an established member (because I did not agree with a member)
and my personal favourite : "go blind yourself :/"
I think since most people can not give neg. rep, we should be able to see who is leaving us neg. rep. because there are too many "trusted/respected" Jr.VIP's abusing the system.
asshole slackers like you
pointless
That is a Bullshit thread to Open
dumb fool
fu.k off, stupid spammer
douchebag
for being rude to an established member (because I did not agree with a member)
and my personal favourite : "go blind yourself :/"
I think since most people can not give neg. rep, we should be able to see who is leaving us neg. rep. because there are too many "trusted/respected" Jr.VIP's abusing the system.
|BlackMarket|
Regular Member
- Nov 10, 2010
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Trust me you are not the only one. There are others and even Jr Vip themselves getting it from a fellow Jr Vip...
Look at it this way, what is the point for us to see who is giving you the -rep? Just to prolong the issues and start a provocative argument between 2 individual? That is not a good idea as it will only create havoc and you will see more hatred thread open just because they are not satisfied with one another.
The system is fine as we need a democracy in this forum as anyone have the right to speak BUT ONLY if it is a matured and relevant comment or rep.
What we need is someone to investigate all this abuse rep. Maybe a report rep button (since we have post report button) where we can complaint only if it is deemed to be immature -rep by members. And the Mod will investigate it and banned the user if it is found guilty.
With strict rules implemented, this will send a message to other members not to play around with the -rep unnecessarily.
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IamNRE
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- Aug 18, 2010
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Agreed sir!
chowyoungfat
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- Nov 6, 2008
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lol tell me about it, I once lost about -4 rep because someone -repped me and accused me of being racist for saying something along the lines of 'outsource a team of indians to spam craigslist for you'. (nothing to do with them being indian, just because it is a cheap for outsourcing). I stood up to him and got -repped by his followers, I managed to land a -rep on him though, the f**ker. He's currently banned. I even went to india this year for a holiday...
I got another -rep for calling a scammer 'toyo' a scammer in his thread. He's also banned now, 6 months later, probably for the same stuff.
I think -rep should be disabled completely for everyone except mods. Leave the report button to notify mods of posts which are unacceptable etc.
I got another -rep for calling a scammer 'toyo' a scammer in his thread. He's also banned now, 6 months later, probably for the same stuff.
I think -rep should be disabled completely for everyone except mods. Leave the report button to notify mods of posts which are unacceptable etc.
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I believe the rep system should go.
Why ? Because only a small and very active minority of members actually use it, and of them the most active are the neg reppers, since when they feel offended they will almost ALWAYS leave neg rep in revenge, but when they are not, they will just not bother rating you if you post something useful, because this is not what they feed on.
Why ? Because only a small and very active minority of members actually use it, and of them the most active are the neg reppers, since when they feel offended they will almost ALWAYS leave neg rep in revenge, but when they are not, they will just not bother rating you if you post something useful, because this is not what they feed on.
Dumper
Elite Member
- Mar 20, 2009
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I totally agree by making it public. I've got some negs when i first joined the site and it was just smart ass comment by nutless bastards who know by attaching their name to the rep would make them look like f'n idiots. Some just abuse the power because they paid some money.
2011nfl
Supreme Member
- Aug 9, 2010
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I was neg repped just yesterday lol, I think I know who did it but not sure, and really dont care, but still, a change would be great.
|BlackMarket|
Regular Member
- Nov 10, 2010
- 343
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As i mentioned above, checkout my rep now..
Weird right....
I'm getting a -rep for raising my concern in BHW.
What an immature attitude indeed.
Why cant they put up a debate in the thread in a manly manner instead of hiding behind the rep?
The reason for -rep ---> Crybaby. Grow up!
Honestly i am totally blur at the moment, am i the one that supposed to grow up and leave this immature species alone?
My advice to you, enjoy the happy moment while you can coz you about to get banned soon.
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DOUBLE -REP?? Can he do that? That is really abusing the privilege given. Anyway thanks whoever you are.
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Scripteen
Elite Member
- Sep 19, 2009
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How about deleting this rep system at all? "Thanks" system looks enough so if someone thinks that your posts are of high quality, your point increase. Otherwise he just have nothing to do but replying to you in the thread itself explaining why he might not like your post.
In "Thanks" system, You can do -thanks only if you gave +thanks to the same post before so no way of people giving you - without actually giving + in advance.
Another suggestion in an earlier post from me in this thread is to make it when someone -rep you, he gets -rep as well. So he is actually giving out his rep to represent his opinion in your post and he is the one who is paying for it.
wannabie
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- Mar 11, 2009
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srb888
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- Jul 30, 2008
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There is only one way to convert bad into good when, sadly, people who matter are not listening to this topic. When someone gets an undue neg rep, we give them a compensating positive one, may be we adopt a system that we get to read the thread where someone "allegedly" get a neg-reg-abuse, and if it really is undue, we compensate that victim with either 1 or 2 or more positive reps.
We device a system where a call is given and anyone who thinks he/she wants to give a positive rep to the victim goes ahead and gives one but read the thread first so that there is no injustice. That way, they will know that it's not worth anymore to give an undue neg rep to any member here. The madness will die down and we all will be happy.
A thread should be open where the victim will say he has been "attacked" and the related thread name will be given on that special thread. Then anyone can go in there and check the posts and find out if the neg rep was really uncalled for. If it was, then the member gives the victim a positive rep and says something like "compensated for an evil", whatever. Also put your name with the comment in the positive rep comment box so that any Mod checking/investigating will understand that it was done in goodwill. Or you can do it secretly too.
There aren't too many Jr-VIPs-and-above out there who are giving these neg reps (abusing is the word) obviously, so the Mods can also isolate them. At least we all would be assured that those "things" cannot hurt us any more.
This can go on until the whole system of "rep"ping is stopped all together.
I don't see any other way out, and may be Mods too would be happy that the forum is getting back to some sanity. They are working very hard but these "things" are getting out of their control too. I have tried to give such positive reps to the members in the past who I believe are victims... Hope you understand my concern here and think on these lines.
Lets clean this forum on our own of this particular uncontrolled-up-to-now mess. As you know, I now have sufficient positive reps so that those people cannot hurt my Rep much. And we would also help each other to get back easily what was lost.
The alternative is to always bow and kneel in front of them and gag ourselves forever in fear. Not any more now...
God bless us and this great forum. Beginning from this good thread itself, we start "beating" the "evil" So call out when "attacked" and know that the help is available in plenty. Once we begin this good work, those culprits out there would also have the fear of getting caught by the Mods and banned for life, thus losing their money for no gains at all, and obviously it will hurt them very hard at their very soft spots.
Also, if I am thrown out, then you all can still continue the good work. Of course you can still do the whole good work without being too obvious (silently) and thus can keep on doing this (giving +rep to the real victims) without any fear of whatever. It's up to you all to stick to doing this without waiting for others... it will benefit you all in any eventuality, so stick together.
So, OK?
We device a system where a call is given and anyone who thinks he/she wants to give a positive rep to the victim goes ahead and gives one but read the thread first so that there is no injustice. That way, they will know that it's not worth anymore to give an undue neg rep to any member here. The madness will die down and we all will be happy.
A thread should be open where the victim will say he has been "attacked" and the related thread name will be given on that special thread. Then anyone can go in there and check the posts and find out if the neg rep was really uncalled for. If it was, then the member gives the victim a positive rep and says something like "compensated for an evil", whatever. Also put your name with the comment in the positive rep comment box so that any Mod checking/investigating will understand that it was done in goodwill. Or you can do it secretly too.
There aren't too many Jr-VIPs-and-above out there who are giving these neg reps (abusing is the word) obviously, so the Mods can also isolate them. At least we all would be assured that those "things" cannot hurt us any more.
This can go on until the whole system of "rep"ping is stopped all together.
I don't see any other way out, and may be Mods too would be happy that the forum is getting back to some sanity. They are working very hard but these "things" are getting out of their control too. I have tried to give such positive reps to the members in the past who I believe are victims... Hope you understand my concern here and think on these lines.
Lets clean this forum on our own of this particular uncontrolled-up-to-now mess. As you know, I now have sufficient positive reps so that those people cannot hurt my Rep much. And we would also help each other to get back easily what was lost.
The alternative is to always bow and kneel in front of them and gag ourselves forever in fear. Not any more now...
God bless us and this great forum. Beginning from this good thread itself, we start "beating" the "evil"
So call out when "attacked" and know that the help is available in plenty. Once we begin this good work, those culprits out there would also have the fear of getting caught by the Mods and banned for life, thus losing their money for no gains at all, and obviously it will hurt them very hard at their very soft spots.Also, if I am thrown out, then you all can still continue the good work.
Of course you can still do the whole good work without being too obvious (silently) and thus can keep on doing this (giving +rep to the real victims) without any fear of whatever. It's up to you all to stick to doing this without waiting for others... it will benefit you all in any eventuality, so stick together. So, OK?
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blackma
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- Jul 9, 2009
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How about your rep only gets upped if at least two people repped you for a post!
There would be a similar case for neg repping!
I don't think repping people should be limited to certain people, everybodies opinion is valid regardless of how long they have been on BHW or how much money they give Diamond Dave for an upgraded membership.
Excluding guests from repping is a good thing though!
There would be a similar case for neg repping!
I don't think repping people should be limited to certain people, everybodies opinion is valid regardless of how long they have been on BHW or how much money they give Diamond Dave for an upgraded membership.
Excluding guests from repping is a good thing though!
srb888
Elite Member
- Jul 30, 2008
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Sorry, but if this is intended towards me, then can you please elaborate?How about your rep only gets upped if at least two people repped you for a post!
There would be a similar case for neg repping!
I don't think repping people should be limited to certain people, everybodies opinion is valid regardless of how long they have been on BHW or how much money they give Diamond Dave for an upgraded membership.
Excluding guests from repping is a good thing though!
P.S.: Sorry again, I think I have now understood your point.
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JesusBack
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- Sep 15, 2010
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this is the only guy I got neg rep from on this forum lol^. this guy is annoying seriously...
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