Why do noobs feel the need to give advice?
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sfidirectory
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From what I can see, you're not a complete noob
.My site (interkiwiwebdevelopers dot com) ranks 7th from 117 million for the phrase "web developers", as of 18th December 2010 (http://www.google.co.nz/#hl=en&biw=...=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=310f2973e5a18a04). As of the same date, I also rank 3rd from 2.2 million for the phrase "web development dunedin" (http://www.google.co.nz/#hl=en&biw=...&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=310f2973e5a18a04). I used to think my site was in the sandbox but looking at these (along with other searches my site appears in the top 1 million) I think my site is ok.
[EDIT]: These results are from google.co.nz, would like to know the results for the same phrases for google.com. But since most of my clients are based in NZ its not too bad.
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zimsabre
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that makes them a scammer not a noob.
JesusBack
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lol .
Now THATS an oxymoron!! More like Yahoo Vaguely Defined Misinformation!! :banghead:
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I agree, what bugs me more than anything on forums though is when somebody aka a noob is looking for advice or panicking over something, and then some D!&k wants to just rain all over him and rant pure crap at him, and put him down... drives me up the wall even when it's not me, sometimes the "senior" members can be bigger D1%KS on all forums, I notice this a hell of alot on car forums especially.
Oh and sum saps just reckon "If I've 1,000 posts and he's only 120 then what the hell would he know, I'm right and that's it!" It's like a badge to throw around.
But saying that though, new guys do look up to and listen more to people with a high post count - this is where your point comes back around madoctopus.
Oh and sum saps just reckon "If I've 1,000 posts and he's only 120 then what the hell would he know, I'm right and that's it!" It's like a badge to throw around.
But saying that though, new guys do look up to and listen more to people with a high post count - this is where your point comes back around madoctopus.
madoctopus
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Some interesting points here.
First of all, since some of you misunderstood my point, it is not the fact that the noob is a noob (noob=newbie=newcomer). It is that he is lacking knowledge in an area and giving advice to others. During high school and college I had many bad teachers and very few mediocre or good ones. There were those who taught something they didn't knew well and that situation made no sense to me. There's a saying that goes something like "those who can't do teach". I don't completely agree with it since there are good professionals that make the personal choice to teach others and help them become good. But then again there are many to whom the saying applies perfectly. Just think at all teachers who are great at building small programs to demo a feature of a programming language, but couldn't develop a software for real life requirements.
In conclusion, the fact that somebody is a noob (newcomer) is not important, but the fact he gives advice when he doesn't have a good grasp on the topic is. The thing is, somebody who is skilled in an area will easily see his own limitations and identify what he knows well and what he knows not so well and will generally not give advice if he is unsure, or at least make it clear that he might be actually wrong. In conclusion when I said "noobs" I was thinking at people that are noobs in a certain field (IM,SEO,whatever), not new on the forum.
Second, if you give an answer to somebody's post with your OPINION, something you truly believe in and you can even argument, that's perfectly fine. But when you don't really understand something and have no solid arguments and proof for yourself that it is like you think it is...
Third, I want to make it clear that at points in my life I have done the same. I gave advice in an area well beyond my expertise. Didn't happened many times, but it happened. Probably we all did it a few times in our life. But from a few times to a habit it's a long way I'd say.
Fourth, regarding the "scammers" who intentionally misinform, I actually think that's business. I understand it. It makes sense to me. Might not be nice but I can explain it to myself why they do it. In a perfect world... oh well, never mind that But when it comes to those who don't know how it is, they probably even know they're not good in that area, but still FEEL THE NEED to give advice... that is something I find interesting even more than I find annoying. There's some psychological program there, part of the social operating system, and I think understanding it, why it happens, how it gets triggered, etc. is a good way to learn to use it to your advantage in business.
Interestingly put. I totally see your point there
First of all, since some of you misunderstood my point, it is not the fact that the noob is a noob (noob=newbie=newcomer). It is that he is lacking knowledge in an area and giving advice to others. During high school and college I had many bad teachers and very few mediocre or good ones. There were those who taught something they didn't knew well and that situation made no sense to me. There's a saying that goes something like "those who can't do teach". I don't completely agree with it since there are good professionals that make the personal choice to teach others and help them become good. But then again there are many to whom the saying applies perfectly. Just think at all teachers who are great at building small programs to demo a feature of a programming language, but couldn't develop a software for real life requirements.
In conclusion, the fact that somebody is a noob (newcomer) is not important, but the fact he gives advice when he doesn't have a good grasp on the topic is. The thing is, somebody who is skilled in an area will easily see his own limitations and identify what he knows well and what he knows not so well and will generally not give advice if he is unsure, or at least make it clear that he might be actually wrong. In conclusion when I said "noobs" I was thinking at people that are noobs in a certain field (IM,SEO,whatever), not new on the forum.
Second, if you give an answer to somebody's post with your OPINION, something you truly believe in and you can even argument, that's perfectly fine. But when you don't really understand something and have no solid arguments and proof for yourself that it is like you think it is...
Third, I want to make it clear that at points in my life I have done the same. I gave advice in an area well beyond my expertise. Didn't happened many times, but it happened. Probably we all did it a few times in our life. But from a few times to a habit it's a long way I'd say.
Fourth, regarding the "scammers" who intentionally misinform, I actually think that's business. I understand it. It makes sense to me. Might not be nice but I can explain it to myself why they do it. In a perfect world... oh well, never mind that
But when it comes to those who don't know how it is, they probably even know they're not good in that area, but still FEEL THE NEED to give advice... that is something I find interesting even more than I find annoying. There's some psychological program there, part of the social operating system, and I think understanding it, why it happens, how it gets triggered, etc. is a good way to learn to use it to your advantage in business. Interestingly put. I totally see your point there