DR Resolved @xRAYPEST vs. @ghost1906

[xRAYPEST]

Username: @xRAYPEST

Please create your Dispute title using the format in the description below. @xRAYPEST vs. @ghost1906

Are you the buyer or seller? Buyer

What is the date the incident took place? May 11, 2026

What is the name of the accused? @ghost1906

Did you encounter the accused on BlackHat World? Yes

Have you started a chargeback with your bank or a Dispute with the payment provider over the transaction? No

Have you contacted the accused via DM (direct message) here on BlackHat World? Yes

Have you informed the accused of the Dispute? Yes

Please add the URL (link) to the location the transaction took place here on BlackHat World.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/w...n-just-1-2-days.1696803/page-19#post-20696979

What product category best describes the product/service involved in your Dispute? Social Media

Please describe the purchase or service involved in your dispute. YouTube Video Ranking

What is the USD amount involved in your Dispute? $200

Please describe the reason for submitting a Dispute, in detail.
I initially contacted the seller on BlackHatWorld regarding a service that claimed to rank any YouTube video to the #1 position. Before placing my order, I asked what would be required on my end. The seller informed me that I would need an aged YouTube channel.

Following this advice, I purchased an aged channel from another seller on BlackHatWorld. Before proceeding, I specifically asked the seller whether this channel would be suitable for the ranking service. I was clearly told that the channel was fine and that we could move forward with the order.

Based on that assurance, I paid $200 for the service. The seller then asked me to continue communication via Telegram, where a group chat was created that included the seller and a support representative. I uploaded my video to the channel and provided all the required details.

However, immediately after submitting the video, the support representative informed me that the video would not rank because the channel was "dead" and did not have other videos uploaded to it. This directly contradicted what I had been told before making the payment. Had I been informed of this requirement beforehand, I would not have proceeded with the purchase.

Instead of honoring a refund, I was told that I could either submit another video or purchase another channel. At that point, I had lost confidence in the seller because the service being provided no longer matched the representations made before payment.

I requested a refund, but the seller refused, claiming that "SEO work had already started." Wanting to see what work had actually been performed, I allowed the campaign to continue.

The only activity I observed was approximately 1,200 views being sent to the video. These views provided no meaningful ranking improvements and appeared to be low-quality SMM traffic. The video didn't even APPEAR on the search results ANYWHERE let alone on top.

The service delivered was not what was promised, the seller provided contradictory information before and after payment, and no measurable ranking results were achieved.

The seller also threatened to contact MY CLIENTS and tell them "about me". This is a clear violation of privacy as well. Later on I was removed from the Telegram group so that I couldn't take screenshots of all the conversation. But I still have important screenshots taken already.

I disputed this on PayPal but the case was closed in the favour of the seller due to some reason, hence I am opening this shitlist.

Please detail exactly how you have tried to resolve your issue before now.
I've contacted the seller for a full refund on Telegram but they said that they won't provide me with a full refund. They said that they will provide me with a different service. They told me that they will refund me $100 on crypto but I didn't believe them. They just wanted to pass time, just wanted the refund window to get over on PayPal, and I tried to refund on PayPal but it didn't side with me. It sided with the seller.

What kind of outcome are you looking for from this Dispute?
A full refund of $210.

Please paste any URLs that point to evidence for your Dispute.


Please upload any screenshots, videos, or other document files that point to the required evidence.


Please confirm you have sent a DM, here on BHW, to the accused? Yes

Please confirm there has been a 24 hour period between informing the accused of the dispute and right now? Yes

Please confirm that the transaction started on BHW via DM, sales thread, WTB/HAF threads, advertisement or signature. Yes

Please confirm that you have provided evidence of the transaction via URL, screen shot or video. Yes

Please confirm that you have explained what the dispute is about, in detail. Yes

Please confirm you have added all supporting evidence to show that you have a case for a dispute. Yes

By pressing the Submit button on this form, you certify that you have completed every step.

You acknowledge that skipping any of the requirements or failing to attach evidence that supports your case could result in this Dispute not only being deleted, but your account being given a warning. Yes

 

[SettingSun77]

Dispute Request Approved​

Information For The Accused
@ghost1906, you have 24 hours to respond to this disputes thread. If you do not respond within 24 hours or we note that you're engaging in any other activities on the forum rather than dealing with this dispute, the decision will be made in favour of the dispute starter and you will be permanently banned from Black Hat World. In the event that you're permanently banned from the forum, you may send in a support ticket using our support channel only once you've refunded and/or provided what the plaintiff has requested.

If your responses to this dispute do not remain prompt, your account will be banned.

Information For The Accused & The Dispute Starter
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Please bear in mind Dispute Resolution section rule #4 before responding.

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Information For Everyone
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At no time during the Dispute should communication between the Accuser and Accused leave this thread. All evidence and any refund information will stay on BlackHat World ®.​

 

[SettingSun77]

@ghost1906 You've been online since this dispute was approved. A reminder that we need a response from you by 16:30 London time tomorrow.

 

[ghost1906]

Dear BlackHatWorld Administration,

We are submitting a formal response to the dispute opened by @xRAYPEST. This user is an active scammer and a dishonest reseller who is attempting to manipulate both PayPal and BHW moderators. He has explicitly lied in his opening statement, altered evidence, and deleted messages to extort money for a digital service that was already successfully rendered.

Here are the undeniable facts, backed by the attached logs and screenshots:

 

[ghost1906]

1. Direct Lie to BHW Administration Regarding PayPal Case Status

In his opening text, the scammer explicitly claims: “I disputed this on PayPal but the case was closed in the favour of the seller due to some reason”.
This is a complete fabrication. The PayPal dispute is NOT closed, nor has it been decided in our favor yet. The case is currently STILL OPEN and strictly under official review by PayPal's system. The user realized his fraudulent chargeback wasn't an instant win, panicked, and rushed to BHW to open a fake Shitlist. He is deliberately lying to the forum staff about the final legal status of the payment to manipulate the administration.

The buyer is fully aware of what he is doing: this is a calculated $600 digital scam based on a "Triple-Dipping" strategy.
— $200 he is actively trying to claw back through the open PayPal dispute.
— $200 he is trying to extort here on BHW through dynamic review blackmail and a double-recovery refund attempt.
— $200 worth of digital services (2,500 organic views, likes, comments, and extensive custom AI keyword/SEO optimization) which he already consumed in full before deleting the video to hide the evidence.
He wants the service for free, the original money back, and a double payout, intentionally creating a $600 fraud loop.

 

[ghost1906]

2. Intentional Deletion of Messages and Cherry-Picking Evidence

The scammer states he was "removed from the group so he couldn't take screenshots." This is psychological projection. As seen in the attached full group chat exports, the buyer intentionally deleted his own messages in our private chat logs before initiating this dispute. He wiped his conversation regarding the second video because he knew he spent both promotion slots, trying to make it look like no work was done. He is actively presenting doctored, heavily edited screenshots to the administration.

 

[ghost1906]

3. The Truth About "Contacting Clients" and Personal Laziness

In his complaint, he tries to frame us by saying we "threatened to contact his clients." Let's look at the actual facts: @xRAYPEST is a lazy reseller. He admitted in the chat that he was too lazy to understand the SEO process and didn't know how to explain the technical details to his end-client. He explicitly asked and begged us to contact his client directly to explain the situation for him.
However, before initiating this dispute, the buyer deliberately deleted his own messages where he begged us to talk to his client. By wiping his own requests from the chat, he intentionally twisted the context to make our subsequent agreement look like a "privacy violation threat" from our side. This is a severe case of evidence tampering. Furthermore, as clearly shown in his own attached screenshots, we acted with unmatched honesty and cooperation: we explicitly offered to cover 50% of a new channel's cost out of our own pocket to save his reputation with his client, and we were even fully prepared to provide his clients with a proper channel entirely at our own expense just to ensure an impeccable result.

 

[ghost1906]

4. Severe Breach of Mandatory Service Requirements

The buyer complains that his video did not rank. Our BHW thread states crystal clear Service Requirements to qualify for any ranking guarantees: "Channel should have normal public activity" and "Channel should have at least 10 public videos & 50 subscribers" (See the screenshot). The buyer brought us an empty, 10-year-old, "dead" channel that did not meet a single technical requirement.
These mandatory guidelines are clearly published and hardcoded EVERYWHERE across our service platforms. In fact, throughout our entire interaction, our team explicitly pointed out these channel requirements to him exactly 8 times (which matches the exact number of automated bot SEO checks and system logs generated for him). Despite being told 8 separate times that his infrastructure was the problem, the buyer completely refuses to accept his own mistake and is aggressively trying to shift 100% of the financial and technical responsibility onto us.

 

[ghost1906]

5. Service Was Delivered, and Then He Deleted the Evidence

Despite our clear warnings that his channel was completely dead, the buyer explicitly gave us the command to launch anyway: “Can't invest more in this unless I can trust tthis service tbh. Just go ahead with this video for now. Let's see how it does.”

We respected his order and fully delivered the service, pushing 2,500 organic views, 50 likes, and 20 comments to his first video (See Screenshot, where he explicitly acknowledges these delivery stats). Immediately after receiving the delivery, the buyer completely deleted the YouTube video so that we could not show the active proof of the promotion to PayPal, and then falsely claimed that "the traffic was low-quality SMM panel traffic".

To make matters worse, the buyer pulled a highly calculated scam with the second video. We had initially agreed to act in good faith and refund him half of the money ($100 USD) for the unlaunched second video (See Screenshot). However, after that agreement, the buyer reached out via private messages, apologized for his aggressive behavior, and stated he wanted to clear the air and start our dialogue completely from scratch. He then submitted the actual YouTube URL and tags for the second video, requesting us to proceed with the promotion. We fulfilled our end of the agreement and launched the campaign for Video #2. As soon as the promotion was delivered, this scammer immediately wiped his entire private message history containing the second video link, the tags, and his apology. He destroyed the logs to maliciously claim that no work was ever performed on Video #2 and extort a double-recovery refund from PayPal and BHW. He fully consumed both promotion slots, deleted the traces, and is now weaponizing fabricated claims.

 

[ghost1906]

Conclusion:

This buyer is actively lying in literally every single point of his complaint. His statement is a toxic mix of fabricated claims, deleted evidence, and psychological projection designed to scam a reputable provider. To summarize the absolute bad faith of @xRAYPEST:

1. He lied about PayPal: He claimed the case was closed in our favor to trick BHW moderators, while the dispute is actually still open.
2. He lied about the requirements: He claimed he wasn't warned, yet our public rules are everywhere + on BHW, and we explicitly pointed them out to him 8 times.
3. He lied about our "threats": He begged us to speak to his clients because he was too lazy to understand the process, and then deleted his own messages to frame our cooperation as a "privacy threat."
4. He lied about Video #2: He apologized, asked to start from scratch, used his second promotion slot via PM, and then wiped the private chat history to pretend the work never happened.
5. He lied about the results: He consumed approximately 2,500 views, likes, and comments, and then completely deleted the first YouTube video to destroy the evidence of our delivery before opening a dispute.

 

[ghost1906]

Final Verdict & Ban Request

@xRAYPEST has entered into a contract in bad faith, severely violated our mandatory technical terms, authorized the launch at his own risk ("Just go ahead"), consumed $200 worth of premium digital services, and then engaged in a calculated $600 triple-dipping fraud loop by attacking us on PayPal and BHW simultaneously.

He did not come here for justice — he came here to weaponize the Shitlist system as a blackmail tool to extort double-recovery refunds. A user who deliberately lies to the BHW administration, tampers with chat logs, and destroys digital assets to force fraudulent chargebacks has zero integrity and is a massive liability to the BlackHatWorld marketplace.

We respectfully request the BlackHatWorld Moderation Team to:
1. Immediately dismiss and reject this fraudulent Shitlist in its entirety.
2. Take immediate disciplinary action and permanently ban @anujpunj from the forum for malicious scamming attempts, evidence tampering, slander, and intentionally misleading the administration.

All unedited and timestamped screenshots are attached below.
Best regards,
CloudyTraff Management

 

[xRAYPEST]

Let me expose all your lies one by one. BHW mods will understand what a liar you are and how you are trying to manipulate things but unlucky for you, I have all the proofs ready on my end to back my claims.

1) 1st lie by the seller is here. The case was closed in his favour. Screenshot is attached.
"Triple-Dipping"? $600 scam? I have been a member of this forum for 12+ years. I have bought from several sellers here and I have paid them via paypal and never disputed anything. I have also made much bigger payments. I can ask all the sellers who I regularly buy from to rep me.


2) Intentional Deletion of Messages and Cherry-Picking Evidence
- Again, clearly a big lie as Sinan (the guy I added from BHW) kicked me from the group. Even in his screenshot you can see "2 members" 1 is Sinan, other is Mira (From my screenshots). They kicked me from the group and now saying I deleted my messages? How is that possible when I have screenshots of everything? I have a clear screenshot of the group chat with "3 members" where this guy says he will contact my clients directly and show them "our conversation" . In his screenshot he clearly still has access to the group with 2 members after kicking me and he claims I am editing the messages?

3) "By wiping his own requests from the chat, he intentionally twisted the context to make our subsequent agreement look like a "privacy violation threat" from our side" - I have a CLEAR message from you threatening me to contact my clients. How am I twisting ANYTHING?

Saying "He admitted in the chat that he was too lazy to understand the SEO process and didn't know how to explain the technical details to his end-client. He explicitly asked and begged us to contact his client directly to explain the situation for him." Where have I admitted this? Where have I asked them to contact my client to explain anything?



4. Severe Breach of Mandatory Service Requirements
Before I made the purchase, the seller CLEARLY told me that my ACCOUNT is good enough to rank BEFORE I made any payment as you can see in screenshots. I have that part of conversation saved because that was done in a private message.
If my account had any issue, why didn't the seller update me in advance when I sent him my account link? How is he putting it on me that I didn't read 1 line in his BST when I showed him MY ACCOUNT and he APPROVED it??



5. Service Was Delivered, and Then He Deleted the Evidence
- Again, big big lies. I mentioned in my initial thread that the service was delivered with 1.2k views and a few likes. I never even SHOWED UP for any keywords. The service promised "#1 rankings" The seller says I deleted the video? It was never deleted. I have shared the video with the admins and they can see that its still live.
- He said I ordered a 2nd video? With 0 proof? How convenient is it to just make lies and say I did something but I deleted our chat when I have proofs for every claim I have made. Their screenshots proved they kicked me from the group. I never had any personal message with anyone after I messaged SINAN on 15th May when I was told my video won't rank because my account isn't good. HE didn't reply to me until 18th may. If I had deleted the chat how would I still have it?? Look at the time in the bottom. I have the chat backed up too if you need it.

In short the seller claimed:
1. He lied about PayPal: He claimed the case was closed in our favor to trick BHW moderators, while the dispute is actually still open. (I have provided screenshot to prove him wrong)
2. He lied about the requirements: He claimed he wasn't warned, yet our public rules are everywhere + on BHW, and we explicitly pointed them out to him 8 times. (I have added screenshot and I still have the live chat with the BST owner where he said my account is fine to rank)
3. He lied about our "threats": He begged us to speak to his clients because he was too lazy to understand the process, and then deleted his own messages to frame our cooperation as a "privacy threat." (I have clearly provided a screenshot which shows his threat to me saying they will contact my clients. They have 0 proof to back what they just said.)
4. He lied about Video #2: He apologized, asked to start from scratch, used his second promotion slot via PM, and then wiped the private chat history to pretend the work never happened. (Again, lies. This never happened. There is still history with SINAN. If i deleted my messages, I can delete the message THEY sent right? Do they have screenshot of that? They didn't provdie any. I can't delete what they have sent. CLEAR LIES)
5. He lied about the results: He consumed approximately 2,500 views, likes, and comments, and then completely deleted the first YouTube video to destroy the evidence of our delivery before opening a dispute. (First they said I deleted the 2nd video and then I deleted the 1st video. I have already told you what I got. Whatever they delivered did not RANK me anywhere. Their claim was to rank #1. You can buy 2500 views for $20-$30. Fun fact: I never deleted the 1st video - its still live)


Throughout this reply by the seller its clear he is trying to make a claim but has no proofs to back it up. He is trying to create a story and when asked to back up he just says I deleted the chat.

Such sellers are a threat to BHW community. You can see on his profile as well where people have received shitty service from this guy. Its just that I decided to open a shitlist so that no one else gets scammed. Go through his older threads and see how everyone talks about that over smart ASS MIRA.

You tried to get me but you made my case stronger.

 

[xRAYPEST]

You say that I have edited my screenshots. He is a quick proof to shut that down. I took a screenshot of your message AS SOON AS I READ IT. You can see it in the properties. Happy to share it with admins over a screenshare too.

I can't possibly edit with such perfection within 30 seconds now, can I? As soon as I had mentioned about shitlist, I had taken all the important screenshots in the chat before you kicked me.

 

[xRAYPEST]

Here is a quick proof of your shitty service from other BHW members:

Proof 1: @socavali reported this last year on your profile. Wish I had read this before I ordered.



Proof 2: @MAXIMESKYBASE had the same issue with him. Seller gave him issues on his end and refused the refund.



Proof 3: Another buyer with no results on his "guarantee service"


Proof 4: Again, no results, insulting the buyer instead. Just how they tried to insult me.


Proof 5: Socavali infact left a detailed feedback on how incompetent these guys are. Look at his full reply here.






Proof 6: Another member being scammed on your other service. Same picture - You first take the payment and then that the buyer didn't meet the requirements. Why did you take the payment then you idiot.




Proof 7: Clearly another shit experience with MIRA, the oversmart ass. Just blame everything on the buyer and take no responsibility. You are SCAMMING money from BHW members.





These are just the proofs from BHW forum where you can see the seller has not delivered what was promised to multiple buyers. They did it with me and I am not going to accept it and I opened this shitlist and they will get what they deserve.

The forum needs to have better service providers to keep more buyers coming in. Having such low class service that are being run by idiots like Mira just doesn't look good on BHW.

You messed with the wrong person Sinan & Mira

 

[SettingSun77]

Here is a quick proof of your shitty service from other BHW members:

Proof 1: @socavali reported this last year on your profile. Wish I had read this before I ordered.

View attachment 527675

Proof 2: @MAXIMESKYBASE had the same issue with him. Seller gave him issues on his end and refused the refund.
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Proof 3: Another buyer with no results on his "guarantee service"
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Proof 4: Again, no results, insulting the buyer instead. Just how they tried to insult me.
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Proof 5: Socavali infact left a detailed feedback on how incompetent these guys are. Look at his full reply here.


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Proof 6: Another member being scammed on your other service. Same picture - You first take the payment and then that the buyer didn't meet the requirements. Why did you take the payment then you idiot.

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Proof 7: Clearly another shit experience with MIRA, the oversmart ass. Just blame everything on the buyer and take no responsibility. You are SCAMMING money from BHW members.

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These are just the proofs from BHW forum where you can see the seller has not delivered what was promised to multiple buyers. They did it with me and I am not going to accept it and I opened this shitlist and they will get what they deserve.

The forum needs to have better service providers to keep more buyers coming in. Having such low class service that are being run by idiots like Mira just doesn't look good on BHW.

You messed with the wrong person Sinan & Mira

This evidence is irrelevant. This isn't about other members' issues, it's about yours. So this post will be disregarded and I want both of you to stick to this specific issue.

 

[ghost1906]

1. Direct Lie About PayPal Case Status & Fraudulent Manipulation

In his opening text, the scammer claims: “I disputed this on PayPal but the case was closed in the favour of the seller due to some reason” and attempts to show a static screenshot of a closed status from May 29th. This is a complete fabrication. The PayPal dispute is NOT closed; the investigation is currently STILL OPEN and actively under review. The buyer is trying to pass off a previous rejected claim or a glitched interface as a final victory to mislead BHW moderators. We are fully prepared to provide the BHW administration with a live screen-recording video, including a page refresh of our official PayPal merchant dashboard, proving that the case is still open and he is actively attempting a double-recovery fraud loop.

 

[ghost1906]

2. The Truth About Sinan's Pre-Evaluation & Thread Requirements

The buyer shows a chat where Sinan looks at the link and says, “I think its good. Since its aged.” Sinan looked at the channel during the initial sales conversation and confirmed only one specific historical metric: that the account was indeed aged. However, a salesman's quick confirmation of an account's age does not override the hardcoded, mandatory technical rules clearly stated in our official BHW service thread.

 

[ghost1906]

It is crucial to emphasize that the buyer discovered us directly through our BHW thread, clicked our contact link from that exact thread, and paid based on that thread. By purchasing our service through that sales thread, he automatically accepted our explicitly stated terms: "Channel should have normal public activity, at least 10 public videos & 50 subscribers".

The moment the buyer submitted his video to the main support group, our technical team conducted a proper audit and immediately warned him that the channel was practically dead (0 videos, 0 subscribers). Instead of stopping or requesting a refund upon receiving this technical evaluation, the buyer explicitly waived his rights and ordered the launch anyway: “Just go ahead with this video for now. Let's see how it does.” You cannot explicitly command a service to proceed at your own risk, knowingly violating the thread terms you agreed to upon purchase, and then blame the seller when your empty channel fails to perform.

 

[ghost1906]

3. Proof of His Own Client-Sourcing and Message Tampering

The buyer acts shocked about us contacting his clients. But look at his own screensho: our support clearly states: “And we'll offer them fair terms, even providing them with a channel. For us, reputation and quality are the keys to success.”
This proves we never "threatened" anyone. The buyer is an incompetent reseller who explicitly complained that his client was angry and he didn't know how to explain the SEO metrics. We offered a massive act of good faith: to contact his end-clients directly and give them a fully compliant channel entirely at our own expense just to protect the project. The buyer purposefully deleted his own messages asking for help with his clients to make our constructive solution look like an aggressive "threat." In Telegram, anyone can delete their own messages for both sides instantly—and that is exactly what he did.

 

[ghost1906]

4. The Fabricated "Video #2" Chat Deletion

The buyer claims he never ordered a second video via PM. He used Telegram's "Delete for both sides" feature to completely clear his private interaction where he apologized, asked to clear the air, and dropped the second video parameters. He manipulated the chat log, left the main group, and now claims it never happened because he knows we cannot pull deleted database logs from Telegram's cloud.