how to put fire out?

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Hey guys!

If any of you in here is an electrician can you please tell me how I should put out a fire started by short-circuiting wires?

The circuitry panel for everything (illumination, central hitting, cameras, internet, etc) of my entire 2-floor home is right here in my room (2 meters away from where I am right now), and lately I keep hearing irregular noises in / around that panel and I'm not feeling very comfortable. And I'm also clueless about this electrical stuff so if shit hits the fan I'm toasted (no pun intended) as I'm 80 km away from the nearest firefighting department or ambulance.

So, if anything bad were to happen - knock on woods, of course - and since I assume that I can't put out such fires by throwing water onto them... and also since I don't have a fire extinguisher either... can you please tell me what my options for preventing / containing / putting out the potential fires are?

Any tip you can give (as long as you know what you're talking about, so please don't use the piece of shit AI for such critical stuff) I'd appreciate it immensely.
 
Throwing a large wet towel or few, or even something bigger but fully wet.

Fire needs oxygen, and once you close the access to it, it's over.


it is also possible that some layers got damaged, so it produces sounds, but you still have to find someone to fix it.
 
You’re considering working on a live electrical wire, and the risk of fire is great enough that you’re asking strangers on the internet how to put it out? I really don't see how this could end badly.

If you can’t afford a certified electrician (assuming that’s even a thing in your country), at the very least hire someone with experience doing this stuff.

Throwing a large wet towel or few, or even something bigger but fully wet.
Throwing a wet towel over an electrical fire is extremely dangerous. Do not do this.
 
If I were you I would call an electrician and let him go thru your wires as a pro active measure, make sure it is safe and don`t wait until it starts burning.
I know, but I can't do that because of many reasons that are linked together.

My father did call another (by "another" I mean someone who has never worked on my household's wiring, and he didn't know what to do because he couldn't figure out the electrical phases (whatever those are), so we decided not to mess with it and just leave this to the person that's worked on these wires from the beginning.

And that was the only electrician in our village, another one (if he exists) can only be found about 20 km away in the next village, but I've no way of getting there (unless I walk, but even then, where would I walk to since I don't know anyone in that village)...

The only person that knows what's going on is the original person who wired the entire house, but that person can only be contacted by my father who is hospitalized with cancer (he barely eats a loaf of bread every few days, talking to him on the phone is almost impossible as he needs rest and I wouldn't be able to hear him anyway as he's lost his voice and so on... a lot of linked reasons for which I can't call any electrician and which is why I'm asking here)

But thanks!

Throwing a large wet towel or few, or even something bigger but fully wet.

Fire needs oxygen, and once you close the access to it, it's over.
ok, I'll have a few towels around me at all times until someone can look into these wires... Thanks for the tip!

it is also possible that some layers got damaged, so it produces sounds, but you still have to find someone to fix it.
I'm aware, man! But I can't do anything else besides asking around for solutions. I, for one, am not touching those wires, there's like 30 or 40 of them for all sorts of things, along with many dozens of fuses and stuff that I don't understand. I also have no smartphone to take a clear picture and post it here, maybe someone would figure something out...

The person who worked on this wiring never finished the job (he's an old man living 80 km away from this place, so we had to periodically - like biweekly - bring him in here for a few hours during weekends so he can work on this, but lately - with my father becoming ill - this ended, and now I'm left with a potential bomb here in my room, my hair raised higher than my cat's hair when I went to sleep earlier but woke up 10 minutes later by whooshing sounds coming from the panel, even now my hands are still shaking...)

You’re considering working on a live electrical wire,
believe me, I'm not considering working on anything. I just want to prevent a fire and - in case that a fire does break out - I am interested in containing it and putting it out ASAP and with as minimum damage as possible. I can assure you that I'm not touching that panel until when I need to prevent catastrophes from happening...

and the risk of fire is great enough that you’re asking strangers on the internet how to put it out? I really don't see how this could end badly.
ok, what else can I do? There's literally no electrician where I live (at least none that understand this stuff, so I'd have to go to the nearest city which is 80 kms away and convince someone to come here without getting paid since I have no money to pay them). Where am I going to find someone who does this out of the kindness of their heart? Not to mention that I don't own a car, there are no buses from here either, and so on...

If you can’t afford a certified electrician (assuming that’s even a thing in your country), at the very least hire someone with experience doing this stuff.
there's NO ONE! Honestly... One of my close relatives that's been a welder in his time came here to have a look after I told him that I hear all sorts of whooshing and crackling sounds and he saw the panel and went like "mhm, these are wires, this is blue, this is fuse..." and we just stared at each other and we both went like "I'm not touching this"...

Throwing a wet towel over an electrical fire is extremely dangerous. Do not do this.
are you 100% sure? Because if I throw it (so, not making contact with the electrical stuff) I don't see how this can harm me... of course, the question about how I would prevent this fire from spreading still remains even if I will not be harmed by the wet towel over electrical wires...

And if this happened to you how you deal with it in an emergency?
 
Throwing a large wet towel or few, or even something bigger but fully wet.

Fire needs oxygen, and once you close the access to it, it's over.


it is also possible that some layers got damaged, so it produces sounds, but you still have to find someone to fix it.
omg! I get your point about smothering the fire, but for an electrical fire, using a wet cloth is a deadly mistake!

The only safe way to put out an electrical fire is with a Class C fire extinguisher (for electrical fires), as it doesn't conduct electricity. Although, my recommendation would be that before you buy one, you should hire an electrician instead, those noises are a clear warning sign.
 
those noises are a clear warning sign.
I figured :(

Class C fire extinguisher (for electrical fires), as it doesn't conduct electricity.
ok, I'll try to find one somewhere, somehow... Thanks for the tip!

#1 - Amazon yourself a couple of fire extinguishers... every home should have at least one.
I mean, if I were to buy them online I could get them from ecom sites here in Romania, I don't have to order them all the way from (China probably?) to get here after 2-3 weeks...

Not sure how I would pay for them as they're probably pretty expensive and I don't have the money yet, but this could be solved in a few days. Thanks for the tip, I'll go shop around for those things...

Is there anything important (technical specifications-wise) that I need to know about these extinguishers? I'm asking both of you...
 
I figured :(


ok, I'll try to find one somewhere, somehow... Thanks for the tip!


I mean, if I were to buy them online I could get them from ecom sites here in Romania, I don't have to order them all the way from (China probably?) to get here after 2-3 weeks...

Not sure how I would pay for them as they're probably pretty expensive and I don't have the money yet, but this could be solved in a few days. Thanks for the tip, I'll go shop around for those things...

Is there anything important (technical specifications-wise) that I need to know about these extinguishers? I'm asking both of you...
@juli3tt , is probably better versed in knowing that, as I didn't even know there were different classes.

I do know water is not going to help, and foam will.
 
Get a Powder Fire Extinguisher or a Carbon Dioxide Fire Extinguisher. This is the only ones that should be used on electrical fires.
thanks!
 
I learnt a lot building a fire consultant website locally here and my son is a trained electrician even though he runs his own Digital Media Agency now .. =)
same!

I learned about bed wetting in children and about sushi when I had affiliate websites in these 2 niches 15 years ago, affiliate marketing has its advantages :p
 
yeah, foam seems to be the solution, thanks!
Just make sure it is approved for it, since foam is electrically conductive, there are also foam extinguishers that are approved for extinguishing fires in electrical equipment up to 1,000 V. So make sure it is approved for electrical fires, not just a regular foam extinguisher. This is very important.
 
Just make sure it is approved for it, since foam is electrically conductive, there are also foam extinguishers that are approved for extinguishing fires in electrical equipment up to 1,000 V. So make sure it is approved for electrical fires, not just a regular foam extinguisher. This is very important.
yep, it's definitely crucial!

I did a bit of research in the meantime and I learned that monoammonium phosphate is perfect for this scenario, and now I'm searching online for such extinguishers and - while they're not very cheap - I think I can get enough money to order one next week, just in case there's a fire.

I also called someone (a friend of a friend of another friend type of thing) that knows a bit about electricity and told me not to worry about anything dangerous, and he also approved of that extinguisher. So, for now I'm safe... or at least I know what to do (I was instructed to turn a certain fuse off in case that I see a spark or that I get paranoid again, but there's no chance of explosions and the alikes, so yeah... I calmed down a bit :)

Thanks everyone who's helped, today I learned a few things about electricity. It's cool and fun when Electro uses it in Spiderman, but boy, do I never want to be around electricity when it malfunctions!

Cheers, guys!
 
Not sure how I would pay for them as they're probably pretty expensive and I don't have the money yet, but this could be solved in a few days. Thanks for the tip, I'll go shop around for those things...
...and that's exactly why money does matter. I'm not saying it's the only thing that matters and I wouldn't do everything for money, but it's very obvious that it's important to have some.

With all this talk I realized I *must* have that kind of extinguisher somewhere there, somewhere *points at a room full of messy, unsorted stuff*. Yeah, it's there, I'm pretty sure.
 
and that's exactly why money does matter. I'm not saying it's the only thing that matters and I wouldn't do everything for money, but it's very obvious that it's important to have some.
fair point :)

With all this talk I realized I *must* have that kind of extinguisher somewhere there, somewhere *points at a room full of messy, unsorted stuff*. Yeah, it's there, I'm pretty sure.
from what I understood these things have an expiry date (well, the substance within them), so be careful to replace it regularly (every 3-4 years??), otherwise it might let you down when you need it the most :)
 
I am an electrician.
If you live in the USA. The switchboard is different from that in Finland.
But I think the sound comes from there and especially from Relay.

If you have a old house. There is those old relay system. Where the sound mostly come´s.
I have old house, so the relays starts to make noices mostly. When the "Water Boiler" starts the heating.


If the sound comes the circuit breakers it´s possible, that circuit breaker is going to by dead someday or loose wire.

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Try to tighten the wires. If those are in loose.

Check this demonstration video for Circuit breakers

Try to find the source of the sound. Any of us can open the cover of the electrical panel. But usually, the part that measures electricity consumption for the electricity company is not allowed to touch it.
When the sound appears. Then take a screwdriver and touch only the plastic part of the relay by pressing the relay and see if the sound stops that way.

When electricity moves in the electrical panel. And over the years earthquakes, doors slammed, house moves or when there is a load there. Places loosen. So often a relay or fuse can start to touch the frame of the electrical panel. So it can also cause noise.

Usually, a wrong relay for the system load and dust ignites in the electrical panel on fire.

If you have located the relay. What gives the sound. Take photo from it and Google the product and check if you can buy it and replace yourself.
Remember to turn off the electricity at the electrical center. It´s mostly the big switch :D

Remember to get "extinguishing blankets". That is good way to safe yourself and if the fire starts. Try to use that before any foam extinguishers if the fire is small.
Fire extinguisher spray is good for small places and electrical panel is small place. It's easy to keep it nearby especially near the electrical panel.
install a smoke alarm above the electrical panel. When something electrical starts to burn, it produces a lot of thick smoke, which is easily detected by a fire alarm.

My best advice is to not install too many devices under the same plug. This way the electrical wire does not overheat too much and also cause excessive wear on the relay.
 
fair point :)


from what I understood these things have an expiry date (well, the substance within them), so be careful to replace it regularly (every 3-4 years??), otherwise it might let you down when you need it the most :)
Uuuuu! Thanks for telling me. Hope you get your problem sorted soon, sounds scary.
 
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