Payment processor for Adult site

ars333

ars333

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Hello!

Me and a couple of buddies built a solution for selling adult content through Telegram. For those who are familiar with Infloww, it's basically Infloww for Telegram, and also PPV functions added.

We are currently on Str!pe (changed name to avoid tracking by them) with our first customers, this is honestly a ticking time-bomb, so we have for the last week tried to figure out different ways to accept payments. It's highly important that "fans" can pay through Apple Pay/Google Pay, boomers need that to be efficient mid-goon.

We do not want any KYC, was in contact with Swapped, they said that recurring KYCs are a thing there, would prefer not having that for our clients. Currently, we are thinking about cloaking Str!pe, but in the long run, I'd prefer something solid. Segpay and CCBill are no-goes, they take far too much % and demand full compliance, so repeated KYCs, Data-base control (not hosted on our site and we have no access).

Anyone got any bright ideas? Currently, we are thinking about pushing fans to a Str!pe pay-site for a gambling site where we then have a webhook from the front-site to the bot that triggers the unlock of the PPV on Telegram.

Anyone who can solve this problem is a legend.
 
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Stealth accounts (Stripe/PayPal/etc)+ solid cloaking - Ideal solution for Adult
 
I recommend taking those two routes at the same time:

- Stealth accounts: PayPal or Stripe.
- Crypto payments: something like Cryptomus or NowPayments

Verotel is also an option, a very old payment processor for adult sites
 
I faced this problem myself recently. Wanting to sell something borderline shady and expecting Str1pe to give me stress.
What I did was setup a 2nd website selling 100% legit consultancy / support etc, with Str1pe integration.
Now I tell customers, go to that site, buy that service, pay for it and I will enable your account over here.
My excuse was that the new business does not have card services setup yet so just pay through the other business.
I hope that makes sense.
 
seabro said:
I faced this problem myself recently. Wanting to sell something borderline shady and expecting Str1pe to give me stress.
What I did was setup a 2nd website selling 100% legit consultancy / support etc, with Str1pe integration.
Now I tell customers, go to that site, buy that service, pay for it and I will enable your account over here.
My excuse was that the new business does not have card services setup yet so just pay through the other business.
I hope that makes sense.
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How is that working out for you? Very good idea.

We discussed something similar. For the meantime however, we realised that the way our system is setup there is no way for Str!pe to even know what business we do for now.

Our web-app is completely squeaky-clean, and basically undetectable. Furthermore, the 6 different parties involved in the end product would have to cooperate to give a complete image of what our service is. And Telegram is not famous for wanting to give out any information, and we can't access the MEGA files.

Our future steps will be to do what you are currently doing, we learned that Str!pe might want to get more details if a company starts doing even larger numbers :)

Thanks for the comment!
 
ars333 said:
Hello!

Me and a couple of buddies built a solution for selling adult content through Telegram. For those who are familiar with Infloww, it's basically Infloww for Telegram, and also PPV functions added.

We are currently on Str!pe (changed name to avoid tracking by them) with our first customers, this is honestly a ticking time-bomb, so we have for the last week tried to figure out different ways to accept payments. It's highly important that "fans" can pay through Apple Pay/Google Pay, boomers need that to be efficient mid-goon.

We do not want any KYC, was in contact with Swapped, they said that recurring KYCs are a thing there, would prefer not having that for our clients. Currently, we are thinking about cloaking Str!pe, but in the long run, I'd prefer something solid. Segpay and CCBill are no-goes, they take far too much % and demand full compliance, so repeated KYCs, Data-base control (not hosted on our site and we have no access).

Anyone got any bright ideas? Currently, we are thinking about pushing fans to a Str!pe pay-site for a gambling site where we then have a webhook from the front-site to the bot that triggers the unlock of the PPV on Telegram.

Anyone who can solve this problem is a legend.
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Stealth accounts my friend.

Wish you luck.
 
If anyone has any time to explain how 'stealth accounts' work and how much they cost to setup/run, I will enjoy the read. If not I can do some searches.
 
Have you guys tried running it through PayPal with a clean front?
 
seabro said:
If anyone has any time to explain how 'stealth accounts' work and how much they cost to setup/run, I will enjoy the read. If not I can do some searches.
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A cloaked account is basically an all-encompassing word of describing a business presenting sanitized information to their payment processor by hiding their true business nature.

Basically, if you want to stay under detection from your payment provider while doing something potentially against their TOS you can build a facade to throw them off. From what I've read most payment providers do not investigate small fish, but if you get big, they will check you out to see what exactly it is you do.

To be successful in this (from what I've gathered), you usually have 2 sites. Site A is the site with content against TOS which you sell, say nudity or gambling, while Site B is the one your payment provider knows about, a clean low-risk site, it is also from there the webhooks fire so that's where they will track you to. Essentially, the purchase is funneled through Site B so that the PP believes they are processing a compliant transaction while the customer is actually paying for something on Site A.

Fun fact: From what I've read, payment providers only shut you down if you give them a reason to. They are making their share from every transaction, and so long as they have plausible deniability, they might let it run. Read about a couple situations where PPs only took action once the Media began pressuring them.
(would love to hear if anybody has experienced this also)

TLDR: You run multiple websites, one clean, one against PPs TOS, funnel customers to the clean one for transactions and present sanitized information to your PP.
 
ars333 said:
Hello!

Me and a couple of buddies built a solution for selling adult content through Telegram. For those who are familiar with Infloww, it's basically Infloww for Telegram, and also PPV functions added.

We are currently on Str!pe (changed name to avoid tracking by them) with our first customers, this is honestly a ticking time-bomb, so we have for the last week tried to figure out different ways to accept payments. It's highly important that "fans" can pay through Apple Pay/Google Pay, boomers need that to be efficient mid-goon.

We do not want any KYC, was in contact with Swapped, they said that recurring KYCs are a thing there, would prefer not having that for our clients. Currently, we are thinking about cloaking Str!pe, but in the long run, I'd prefer something solid. Segpay and CCBill are no-goes, they take far too much % and demand full compliance, so repeated KYCs, Data-base control (not hosted on our site and we have no access).

Anyone got any bright ideas? Currently, we are thinking about pushing fans to a Str!pe pay-site for a gambling site where we then have a webhook from the front-site to the bot that triggers the unlock of the PPV on Telegram.

Anyone who can solve this problem is a legend.
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Hey, I'm currently looking at different options to sell adult content through telegram - majority of the subscription bots don't have a payment provider that would allow adult content and if it has - they would have to pay with crypto only. I was checking NowPayments, but they have fiat to crypto solution on hold.. I checked probably over hundred options in the last 2 days and my head is going to explode probably. For example - on their homepage they mention they allow nsfw and in their tos they are saying the opposite :)

Does anyone know a solution to this? Thanks!
 
ontrack013 said:
Hey, I'm currently looking at different options to sell adult content through telegram - majority of the subscription bots don't have a payment provider that would allow adult content and if it has - they would have to pay with crypto only. I was checking NowPayments, but they have fiat to crypto solution on hold.. I checked probably over hundred options in the last 2 days and my head is going to explode probably. For example - on their homepage they mention they allow nsfw and in their tos they are saying the opposite :)

Does anyone know a solution to this? Thanks!
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Least obvious fed.
Couldn't help.
 
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