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[handsomeyyy]

May I ask if you add UTM parameters to your Google ads for tracking? and hat attribution tool do you use?

 

[naughtyyy688]

Hello SEOManiac,

I’m currently focused on affiliation, as it provides better returns for me than running BH ads for others. I do have some clients, but my roster is closed at the moment since I no longer have the time to manage additional campaigns.

If anything changes in the future, I might reconsider, but for now, I'm sticking to my current approach.

im interested to know more how u run affiliated,mind sharing?

 

[yxtears]

Have you ever encountered a situation where the click-to-registration (click2reg) rate is very low? I’m getting quite a lot of clicks, but very few registrations.

 

[samthevick]

I want to know what type of integration you use in Hoax.

Hello handsomey,

I've already posted it before, but here you go.
View attachment 438739

May I ask if you add UTM parameters to your Google ads for tracking? and hat attribution tool do you use?

Nope. Some people use RedTrack but I prefer to stay with Hoax and Casino counters. Never been an issue for me.

im interested to know more how u run affiliated,mind sharing?

Hi naughty.

Of course, I'm sharing it here already. What do you want to know in specific?

Hey, i read all thread and comments in the topics thank you first of all. Im graphic designer and videographer +7 years experienced. Also already making some CASINO videos/designs (Please check my videos/designs and would like to see your reviews) for my affiliate/casino owner customers. I want to start my journey so i have some questions for you:

1) How can we find best affiliate offers? Is there any website to see all offers for casino affiliate? For example, im living in Turkey but i will focus CANADA. So how can i find best and trustable casino offers in CA?

2)How can you decide target GEO? For example if the offer is ok, so you run into it?

3)I want to run it with those methods, are those make sense ?:
a) Facebook/Instagram fake app download and webviewer app
b) Youtube Casino shorts videos and dropdown some affiliate or telegram channel links
c) Google BH ads (with your method)
d) Telegram marketing (with FB/Insta ads - i dont know actually i will research it)

Thank you

Hey CreativeDesigner,

To start out, congratulations on your designs. Those are awesome for who runs Facebook Ads. Pretty well done, and better than average I've seen running.
Appreciate for you reading it all out, it's just more and more knowledge you're getting here.

To find affiliate offers, there are tons of ways. You can search through forums, look for iGaming Affiliate Agencies (Which I don't recommend, but for kick-off might be a way to get contacts) and find AM (Affiliate Managers). You start talking with these people, and start asking for more and more deals, people and it will get sometime when you're doing good you'll start getting offers out of no where.
Till nowadays I get offers coming in my emails from WhitePages I'm running asking if I want to run ads on their x/y/z casino.

2. Depends a lot. I have a lot of more experience in Tier 3 Geos. Usually I take 1 week revising offers, checking the average prices on the countries, checking AM's offers and just analyzing. After finding around 10-15 good deals I spare a budget to test them all at once. Which one performs better on a mid-budget test I burn all the money in.

3. a. I've never runned it, only saw people running. Some people say it's good, others not so much. For Facebook, who i've seen getting success are teams. (You're never alone on this). I think facebook is expensive when it comes to getting your correct audience but once you get it's just burn more and more.
b. Never done as well, but organic it's only time consuming, so give it a test.
c. It's the one I prefer, requires a lot of budget to burn and be prepared to say goodbye to a lot of money as well. Once you get a good offer on a interesting GEO, that's when the smile comes up to your face
d. I've tested it, but no success at all.

Have you ever encountered a situation where the click-to-registration (click2reg) rate is very low? I’m getting quite a lot of clicks, but very few registrations.

Hello yxtears

Yes. In this case do a A/B testing. I don't know what GEO; but try changing language to something native or to english. That's test 1. Try to send the user to index instead of register. Small changes make the difference sometimes.

我尝试将 cookie 弹出窗口更改为注册奖励弹出窗口，但似乎没有任何效果。

Probably the language might be interfering with something. Or the keywords, are targetting wrong people

 

[bhgads]

Hello handsomey,

I've already posted it before, but here you go.
View attachment 438739


Nope. Some people use RedTrack but I prefer to stay with Hoax and Casino counters. Never been an issue for me.


Hi naughty.

Of course, I'm sharing it here already. What do you want to know in specific?


Hey CreativeDesigner,

To start out, congratulations on your designs. Those are awesome for who runs Facebook Ads. Pretty well done, and better than average I've seen running.
Appreciate for you reading it all out, it's just more and more knowledge you're getting here.

To find affiliate offers, there are tons of ways. You can search through forums, look for iGaming Affiliate Agencies (Which I don't recommend, but for kick-off might be a way to get contacts) and find AM (Affiliate Managers). You start talking with these people, and start asking for more and more deals, people and it will get sometime when you're doing good you'll start getting offers out of no where.
Till nowadays I get offers coming in my emails from WhitePages I'm running asking if I want to run ads on their x/y/z casino.

2. Depends a lot. I have a lot of more experience in Tier 3 Geos. Usually I take 1 week revising offers, checking the average prices on the countries, checking AM's offers and just analyzing. After finding around 10-15 good deals I spare a budget to test them all at once. Which one performs better on a mid-budget test I burn all the money in.

3. a. I've never runned it, only saw people running. Some people say it's good, others not so much. For Facebook, who i've seen getting success are teams. (You're never alone on this). I think facebook is expensive when it comes to getting your correct audience but once you get it's just burn more and more.
b. Never done as well, but organic it's only time consuming, so give it a test.
c. It's the one I prefer, requires a lot of budget to burn and be prepared to say goodbye to a lot of money as well. Once you get a good offer on a interesting GEO, that's when the smile comes up to your face
d. I've tested it, but no success at all.


Hello yxtears

Yes. In this case do a A/B testing. I don't know what GEO; but try changing language to something native or to english. That's test 1. Try to send the user to index instead of register. Small changes make the difference sometimes.

Probably the language might be interfering with something. Or the keywords, are targetting wrong people

How are you able to spend $20,000 on your account with gambling? The most I’ve ever managed to spend on a gambling account in tier 3 using the same strategy as you was around $1,000 before getting suspended.


Most of the accounts get suspended before I even spend $500.


After the policy update in June, it became almost impossible to run gambling on Google.

 

[cheonline]

Which country do you use for invoices? Which country should we use to obtain ID and passport, and where can I find a provider for this?

 

[handsomeyyy]

My goal is to get more leads to click the CTA button on my black page then add my WhatsApp. Is this setup correct?

 

[yxtears]

My current issue is that the budget simulator rarely appears, and if I manually change the budget, the account gets suspended almost immediately. Some accounts have been waiting for over 10 days and still haven’t seen the simulator appear. Adjusting the budget by 10% per day is too slow, but everything else is relatively normal.

 

[handsomeyyy]

And one more thing, what is your bidding strategy？Enhanced CPC、Manual CPC、Maximize clicks or Target Impression Share? Can't wait to hear from you.

My current issue is that the budget simulator rarely appears, and if I manually change the budget, the account gets suspended almost immediately. Some accounts have been waiting for over 10 days and still haven’t seen the simulator appear. Adjusting the budget by 10% per day is too slow, but everything else is relatively normal.

I have some questions about Cloaker that I'd like to ask you.Plz check DM bro

 

[samthevick]

How are you able to spend $20,000 on your account with gambling? The most I’ve ever managed to spend on a gambling account in tier 3 using the same strategy as you was around $1,000 before getting suspended.


Most of the accounts get suspended before I even spend $500.


After the policy update in June, it became almost impossible to run gambling on Google.

Hello bhgads

Yes, exactly.
Depends a lot on the strategy you're doing. Wether if you're doing an exact casino keyword like "CasinoX" or if you're doing only keywords like "Free Bets"

Which country do you use for invoices? Which country should we use to obtain ID and passport, and where can I find a provider for this?

Hello Cheonline

I don't do invoicing. I have agency with Credit Line, that's their business. I just pay them $ and they Top-Up, so I don't worry about anything on that matter.
About verification, is also Verified through their agency.

My goal is to get more leads to click the CTA button on my black page then add my WhatsApp. Is this setup correct?View attachment 462314View attachment 462315

If that's your objective, I would suggest you doing ads like you're doing for whatsapp. Include whatsapp on your whitepage. Later on just change white to bh.

My current issue is that the budget simulator rarely appears, and if I manually change the budget, the account gets suspended almost immediately. Some accounts have been waiting for over 10 days and still haven’t seen the simulator appear. Adjusting the budget by 10% per day is too slow, but everything else is relatively normal.

Hey yxtears,

That's very weird. Are you using Agency accounts? Or personal? If you are running multiple accounts, take a rist of increasing heavily only in one, just like from 10 to 100$ at once. It might pass through, but only if you hve multiple and you're ok with burning it.

And one more thing, what is your bidding strategy？Enhanced CPC、Manual CPC、Maximize clicks or Target Impression Share? Can't wait to hear from you.

Hello Handsomeyy

Manual CPC. Maximize Clicks

 

[cocomoxoxo]

Respect for sharing the game Cloaking’s an art how are you keeping G from nuking accounts lately?

 

[yxtears]

• The budget simulator appears very quickly on my first regular (compliant) ads—often in less than 7 days—but it’s very difficult for it to appear on black (non-compliant/cloaked) ads.
• Have you tested other cloaking solutions, such as noipfraud? For example, when I use the Adspower mobile browser to access a hoex cloak page, the hoex backend still shows that this device is touch-capable, which makes me suspect that hoex may not be fully reliable.

 

[bigbird24]

This guy with the Dragon Ball image really seems like a liar. I think he's doing it to sell accounts, or maybe to sell his services... but I don't believe anything he says.

Of course, if you fall for the Dragon Ball guy, you'll find yourself just spending money and getting nothing... I don't think this guy even advertises. He's just telling lies to find people to pluck.

 

[samthevick]

Respect for sharing the game Cloaking’s an art how are you keeping G from nuking accounts lately?

Hello cocomoxoxo,
Thank you. Accounts are always going to die sooner or later, but with a good cloaker and good ad setup you might get some more long lasting on the account.

• The budget simulator appears very quickly on my first regular (compliant) ads—often in less than 7 days—but it’s very difficult for it to appear on black (non-compliant/cloaked) ads.
• Have you tested other cloaking solutions, such as noipfraud? For example, when I use the Adspower mobile browser to access a hoex cloak page, the hoex backend still shows that this device is touch-capable, which makes me suspect that hoex may not be fully reliable.

Hello yxtears,
For the first question, have you let the bh ad runned as white for at least 1 day? 1 or 2 should be enough.
For the Cloaker, yes, I have Cloakerly as well, and for some specific campaigns I use Adspect. Hoax is realiable, but it kind of depends on the GEO you're advertising. Even though, check if the Touch option is activated, and if you can bypass it easily with AdsPower question them on support what might be happening.

This guy with the Dragon Ball image really seems like a liar. I think he's doing it to sell accounts, or maybe to sell his services... but I don't believe anything he says.

Of course, if you fall for the Dragon Ball guy, you'll find yourself just spending money and getting nothing... I don't think this guy even advertises. He's just telling lies to find people to pluck.

Hello bigbird.

I was going to reply to it, but it's not really worth doing so

Please just scroll over all pages on this post and check if I am selling anything or if I do have intention to sell anything. Please report that to administration if that's true.

Check the older posts as well on this thread:

Hello guys.

After 6 pages of comments, many people sending me messages personally and thanking me, I want to disclose some things:

1. - This thread was created to help everyone that's starting on their bh experience, and to, help even people that's on bh already.

When I first looked at blackhat advertising, I searched for bh this , bh that and I really had difficulties finding content about that. I truly believe that anyone that reads this entire thread, white expert people going on here, you could find some answers, and expert answers for what you're looking for. And the good part is, you can still ask questions, I will contribute with my best tips for everyone out here.

2. - I am not a Google Ads Account Provider

Yes, I can recommend you the providers I work with, which I already recommended to a few members, but please, understand, I do not have any connection with them, except me doing ads with their accounts.

3. - I'm NOT Selling ANYTHING

Yes. Please understand, this is a thread for you to learn at cost free. I do not want anyone to pay me a single penny. That's happily my contribute to BHW.
By that, it does not mean that one day I couldn't sell a Guide to BlackHat Ads, but honestly? I have too many work to do, that is not in my list, nor at the end for now.

4. - I've received a few messages from some members asking if I could do BH ads to their service

I'm already managing some clients ads, I'm managing my own ads, I don't really have time for no one else at the moment. My schedule is really full, I appreciate you understand that.


Interesting though, why you created a account on bhw just to comment my thread?

 

[bigbird24]

You're a good philosopher... and even the simple example of how you recommend entering keywords into your Google account doesn't work. Not to mention the fact that... don't deceive people just to sell services... have a good day.

 

[bigbird24]

In my opinion you don't even advertise...you only sell Google accounts and advertising management but the chickens who fall into the net will only see their money disappear .. see you soon dragon ball liar

 

[FinnPulse]

Impressive scale! Looking forward to learning more about your cloaking strategies

 

[samthevick]

You're a good philosopher... and even the simple example of how you recommend entering keywords into your Google account doesn't work. Not to mention the fact that... don't deceive people just to sell services... have a good day.

In my opinion you don't even advertise...you only sell Google accounts and advertising management but the chickens who fall into the net will only see their money disappear .. see you soon dragon ball liar

Thank you for your opinion bigbird. If you need help in anyway feel free to ask.

 

[smokey616]

Interesting thread! I'm just getting started with testing in this niche.
I wanted to ask - have you had any experience with the Palladium cloaker, or any thoughts on it?

At the moment, I have a fresh Google Ads account (US geo) and I’m running it through US mobile proxies. The plan is to target campaign a couple of Tier 3 countries.

For now, I’m going to warm up the account by running ads only to a white page with a small daily budget ($5–10), and in the meantime prepare the cloaker setup. Once the warm-up is done, I’m planning to duplicate the whitehat campaign - keeping it live with the same small budget - and use the cloned version to add the cloaker, insert a few targeted keywords, and finally plug in the offer.

Do you think this is a reasonable tactic? Or am I missing something important? I'd really appreciate any tips or things to watch out for.

 

[movi90]

It’s truly kind of you to share this knowledge with all of us for free.