Ask me About Gambling BlackHat Ads

[pluhuffyshearstitch486]

I am running various Google Ads accounts on the matter of Gambling, Casino related, etc.

3rd world countries are welcome, since that's my main target as today.

My accounts are reaching up to 20k USD$ for now. I'm on the expertize of cloaking techniques.

Feel free to ask any questions, I will try to help you as much as I can.

what are the best countries to run gambling ads on?

 

[amr00t]

Hey Snkrsresell.

Honestly, for looking into the funnels best way is really going into them. Try to find them by google searches, and go ahead looking at what they're doing. I don't think any tool would be able to do so.

For the Cookies, it's a strategy I've used on the past, when trying out Nutra Products.

Here is a youtube video for you to understand what it is in specific

Basically, you open the casino you're advertising, and take a screenshot.
Blur the background and put a cookie notice.
The best example I can give you for that, I've done affiliation with Stake many times, and they have cloudflare on their website.
When doing an A/B test I noticed that the amount of people who reaches the Stake website is higher when we have the Cookie Pop-Up.
Let's say someone clicks on a Ad on Google, it's weird to see at a first glance Cloudflare Blocking you, but when you do the Cookie Pop-Up, Cloudflare only appears after the person "accepts" the cookies.
The user view on that is like the website is checking the Cookies. This increased a lot of traffic reaching the website.
And +, it's not so usual, but redirects might trigger unlinks and not reach the casino page.

I think I talked about keywords here before, but best approach is talk with someone native in the country you're looking to advertise.
Like you said, in Indonesia, "slotus gacor" or "situs online" are perfect keywords.
When advertising to something specific like Stake, if the brand allows to do so, I would use Stake keyword.

There are really tons of ways, I specialized the most on Cookie Pop-Ups only. But there's some strategy people are doing in countries like Japan, using sites.google for example.

I have read from start to finish this forum. Thanks for sharing this knowledge, I would say this is one of the best thing I found on BHW.

Because of you, I feel confident blackhat ads is doable, I just need to get started step by step and seek help here.
I have zero experience in ads, I am just paying for propellerads today but my account is suspended for now and I am trying to resolve it.

My niche is crypto mining, Is there any tip and advice?

My question is, for the landing page, or whitepage, do I need to make a single page website? (I see you spoke about getting a freelancer.)
I can develop my site but this depends on how large the white page is supposed to be because I do not want to spend time building a white with multiple pages. Would a single page work?

My idea is, single page that talks about Plumbing, as white page and blackpage would be my website which is about crypto mining.

 

[samthevick]

Why is it necessary to add a cookie consent page instead of directing users straight to the offer?

Hello yxtears.

It is not necessary. I'm just sharing my experience. Usually I get better conversion rates when doing the Cookie Pop-Up Landing Page.

For some months now I have not been able to advertise well on google ads, I only serve black ads in brazil, government ads that can only be advertised and scaled with cloaker, on the google ads search network there is only one advertiser with an account that does not fall with government ads, I have studied the standards, a friend close to this same person informed me that he does not use a proxy, only 4g or starlink, the pointing of his domain to the vps does not use the cloudflare proxy (I found this curious, because the cloudflare proxy prevents attacks and he has suffered attacks recently and because of his knowledge he knows he can activate the cloudflare proxy), another pattern I noticed is that the vps he uses has nginx and does a forced redirection, I believe he is using a cloaker within the site itself with parameters and filters through nginx,In addition, he runs ads to the white page and after a few days without changing the budget, he installs a cloaker on the domain of the google ads campaign, gradually changing keywords, titles and descriptions and gradually increasing the budget, in addition, he waits for the account to fall due to fraud in the systems and returns to it, in this way the account comes back stronger.


I'm going to do the same test, I'm using 4g in some accounts, heating well done, after that upload a campaign to white page, install my cloaker in the same domain as the campaign and follow the same steps as them, I would like to see with you how much you think that using 4g instead of residential proxy, using a famous hosting instead of vps with pointing through proxy can influence the longevity of a google ads account? This is the method I'm testing.

1. Mobile Data
2. Using AdsPower
3. Renowned hosting companies such as hostinger
4. Wait days to add a cloaker to the campaign link, without changing the link
5. Wait days to increase budget
6. The account contains a warm-up campaign for a company registered with google ads billing and the company's details at the bottom of the white page.

What can I improve? How valid do you think this is in the logenicity of an account?

Cloakers that I will test will be an open source cloaker called bynomo and homemade cloaker made with nginx and filters, as I said above, my ads are government, very black, I see that you have a lot and experience, maybe you can help me, I copied and pasted my post that I made recently here.

Hello Chinelofrifas.

I totally understand it. You're ad is governmental, even thought, it's going to be blackhat as well.
Well, for the mobile data, of course it will work, but if you see that is annoying you can go just with Residential Proxies. I personally use 922Proxies, on Residential Proxies, just buy something like 10Gb and depending on how much you use it, it may last sometime.

2. Adspower, it's one I use, I use Dolphin as well, so we're good.

3. It doesn't matters. You can use anything
The thing here, you saw about your friend will make sense now.
Basically, let's say you buy a VPS. That VPS IP Address is (example): 162.159.21.201
Today you're going to make ads on Google Ads. Google will look at your domain and resolve everything. Such things as DNS, IP Address and other that we don't know.
From now on, if your account on google gets banned, next time you create a new account, if you use the same VPS, with the ip 162.159.21.201 Google will block you right away.
So, the really change here is Cloudflare. When you add your website to cloudflare you change your nameserver to Cloudflare ones. The thing is, your website now (even if being hosted on the VPS, or somewhere else) is like it belongs to "CloudFlare", it IP Address will be from Cloudflare and Nameserves aswell. Google can't really ban Cloudflare since a lot of important services use it. So for while google doesn't finds a solution to that we're good.

TLDR; Just add your domain to cloudflare and point the nameservers, you'll be fine with any hosting provider.

4. Yes, exactly. I would recommend 1 day wait between any change. But take a look on the thread, I already gave examples on how to do so. Same answer applies to 5

6. That should work as well. If you get "Compromised Website" ban, it means the WhitePage you're using is with some problem.

It looks pretty solid, I would just change the 4g to proxies, but there's no worries on this matter, as long you use 1 4g per account and don't use it for anything else except for Google Ads.

20k daily in ad spend?
if so how do you sacle

Hello dazepromiberywisp

Of course not daily!
When I said my accounts, I mean each Google Ad account, it's spending around 20k before dying.
I have some running for months, spending on average 250$/day
I've talked before here as well on how to do so. It's better for you to go back because it has images.

I have read from start to finish this forum. Thanks for sharing this knowledge, I would say this is one of the best thing I found on BHW.

Because of you, I feel confident blackhat ads is doable, I just need to get started step by step and seek help here.
I have zero experience in ads, I am just paying for propellerads today but my account is suspended for now and I am trying to resolve it.

My niche is crypto mining, Is there any tip and advice?

My question is, for the landing page, or whitepage, do I need to make a single page website? (I see you spoke about getting a freelancer.)
I can develop my site but this depends on how large the white page is supposed to be because I do not want to spend time building a white with multiple pages. Would a single page work?

My idea is, single page that talks about Plumbing, as white page and blackpage would be my website which is about crypto mining.

Hello amr00t,

I'm glad this post have helped you

For the Landing Page, all I get from the dev is 3 files, which are index, privacy policy and contact us page.
Usually it is just simple websites (which I don't know how to make ahahah) but that need to be worked to pass on Google. I'm not sure how, but it just works if it's a developer making it. You just can't use templates as far as I know.

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with this product or its seller in any way, nor do I have any form of connection or association with them.

Website of the seller: truewhitepages.com

If you have experience on this field, I would even recommend you contacting the seller (which doesn't hurt anyone) and ask if he can give you any guidance on how to do so.

Your idea is corrrect, and that would work of course

 

[chinelofrifas]

Thank you for your answer, it will help me a lot in my studies and validations that are happening at the moment, another question I have, you said you use a cloaker with pre sell cookies, do you use only the presell or does it have filters, with parameters, how does it work exactly?

 

[samthevick]

Thank you for your answer, it will help me a lot in my studies and validations that are happening at the moment, another question I have, you said you use a cloaker with pre sell cookies, do you use only the presell or does it have filters, with parameters, how does it work exactly?

Hello chinelofrifas.

I think I said it before, but no worries.
The cloaker pre-sell is totally optional. I find it more converting than redirecting people directly to the casino directly

 

[amr00t]

Hi moriJapan

Awesome! I'm very glad that this post is really helping out people. Good luck on your journey!

Well, let's get onto it.
1. All three in a single batch. So, by that I mean, you add 3 keywords at once.

Tip:
Add 3 keywords, but mix 1 of them with your ad (makes the keywords getting approved easier)
Let's say your white page website is about plumbers. You have some keywords like: plumbers near me, plumbers
You want to do the following bh keywords: casino, top casino.
You're input on Google Ads Keywords should be something like:

plumbers casino y
plumbers top casino
casino
top casino

Those 2 keywords about your ad and your bh keyword probably won't get any clicks, but with my tests, it usually get your bh keywords approved easier

2. Ok, that's an important step as well. I always make it this way:

At this moment, let's say you just added bh keywords.
Now, we wait till we see our first click in our bh keyword. After the 1st click in any bh keyword I usually wait something around 24hours. Let the budget be spent between the bh and white keywords for 1 day.
After the 24 hours, I login to the ad account, head over to keywords, and start pausing them 1 by 1 ( by this I mean, you could choose all keywords and click on the button pause which would pause all the white keywords in 1 click), but in my experience I think it does flag something on Google. When I click on each one green color and change to pause usually nothing about flag happens and it just goes throught.

3. Always wait once again like 1 hour after keywords are in to start increasing budget.

Unfortunately it is really a game of patience and sometimes we've been working on the account for 1 whole week and it just gets banned somewhere. Sometimes it's just so random that we don't even know what's happening. But I can assume you, you might be lucky on the first try or either just be lucky everytime ahaha.
Following that proper setup with patience it's really rare to something happen so fast, usually your accounts should last longer. If by any chance you're accounts are never working, there should be some error you're doing on the process, or either, it can be your MCC provider.

Keep us updated here, and if you need any help on proper setup feel free to ask me.
Good luck!

I need a little help, i have setup my whitepage and hoax.tech free trial for 7 days - I want to make good use of these 7 days to get my hands dirty.

My landing page is of HVAC vertical and here are the keywords that matches with this niche

• HVAC repair
• HVAC repair service
• air conditioner installation
• heating system maintenance
• water supply system repair
• air purifier installation
• duct cleaning service

My Black is about crypto mining and I want to target the following keywords:

• crypto mining
• bitcoin mining
• cryptocurrency mining
• bitcoin mining software
• crypto mining software
• bitcoin mining hardware

How would I add this the keywords to campaign?

• HVAC repair crypto mining
• HVAC repair cryptocurrency mining
• HVAC repair Bitcoin mining hardware
• crypto mining (note no hva here - should i add one like this or i should update the full white above this section?)

Secondly, if i submit two keyword like "HVAC repair crypto mining" and other variation, wouldn't google sport this and not approve the account?
Thirdly, is there a limit to the number of keywords and countries to target per campaign?
Fourthly, Also what is the best "Campaign objective" that would work best from below? (My black has homepage and a landing page that collects email when users click on a button to test mining speed etc.)





Finally How about campaign (creatives) title and description? Should I use white and change it later?

Thanks for your support in advance.

 

[Leeneks_]

please suggest a verified seller of casino certificates, to run ads in google ads

 

[handsomeyyy]

Do you use GTM and install Google's tracking code for ad tracking?

 

[amr00t]

Do you use GTM and install Google's tracking code for ad tracking?

I thought of this recently and good thing I saw it in Hoax config page to disable GA4 so i removed GA4 ad left GTM on my black but made sure GTA isn't connected to GTM (GTA - is just a place holder that doesn't do much unless you setup triggers so it doesn't track).
I am all set just waiting for answers for my above screenshot because I do not want to make mistake at this final stage.

In summary, just avoid GA4.

 

[snkrsresell]

Hello, I have (more) questions.

In one of your previous messages in this thread, you told me you had $0.18 CPC in Indonesia, and "In Indonesia, i'm getting something like 3-5% deposits on 1000 clicks." (to quote your message exactly).

Is this FTD rate really achievable? On page 6 of this thread "https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/ask-me-about-gambling-blackhat-ads.1687691/post-19121133) , you had responded to someone, showing them a screenshot of a dashboard, and that percentage might be more like a registration rate, not FTD (I don't know which geo you were running on, maybe I'm wrong in taking this message as an example).

So my question is: out of 1000 clicks, can we really get 3-5% deposits? Or are we looking more at 0.4-0.5%?

Thanks.

 

[astroadept]

My accounts are reaching up to 20k USD$ for now. I'm on the expertize of cloaking techniques.

that's $20k per month or total in 1 account?

also why not spread over several accounts and not just one?

 

[yxtears]

The ad was rejected and deemed ineligible for delivery due to a policy violation.

what can i do

 

[amr00t]

hi i thought i should share if my keywords are okay and can be easily manipulated later when I am creating the duplicate ads for black

My target countries are a mix of tier 1 and tier 2 countries.

Please if anyone has idea on this do not hesitate to help. I will really appreciate.

 

[sam.hunt0710]

First thing which I can suggest never use that many headlines and descriptions when your end target is to convert those and run BH/GH campaigns.

Use only 3 Headlines & 2 Descriptions so that once its time to switch from WH to BH/GH it will be easier.

 

[amr00t]

First thing which I can suggest never use that many headlines and descriptions when your end target is to convert those and run BH/GH campaigns.

Use only 3 Headlines & 2 Descriptions so that once its time to switch from WH to BH/GH it will be easier.

Thanks for this tip. The keywords has been approved just now. Since this would be duplicated after some days. I have removedthem though

 

[samthevick]

I need a little help, i have setup my whitepage and hoax.tech free trial for 7 days - I want to make good use of these 7 days to get my hands dirty.

My landing page is of HVAC vertical and here are the keywords that matches with this niche

• HVAC repair
• HVAC repair service
• air conditioner installation
• heating system maintenance
• water supply system repair
• air purifier installation
• duct cleaning service

My Black is about crypto mining and I want to target the following keywords:

• crypto mining
• bitcoin mining
• cryptocurrency mining
• bitcoin mining software
• crypto mining software
• bitcoin mining hardware

How would I add this the keywords to campaign?

• HVAC repair crypto mining
• HVAC repair cryptocurrency mining
• HVAC repair Bitcoin mining hardware
• crypto mining (note no hva here - should i add one like this or i should update the full white above this section?)

Secondly, if i submit two keyword like "HVAC repair crypto mining" and other variation, wouldn't google sport this and not approve the account?
Thirdly, is there a limit to the number of keywords and countries to target per campaign?
Fourthly, Also what is the best "Campaign objective" that would work best from below? (My black has homepage and a landing page that collects email when users click on a button to test mining speed etc.)
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Finally How about campaign (creatives) title and description? Should I use white and change it later?

Thanks for your support in advance.

Hello amr00t.

I always use Search Campaign, but instead of Leads I go with Website Traffic. Also never install Googel Tag on your website as they suggest, just ignore this.

For the keywords, yes, it's almost that.

Let's say something like,

hvac mining
hvac bitcoin
hvac bitcoin mining
bitcoin
bitcoing mining

Usually that should be approved, after spending some $ there you can pause other keywords like "hvac bitcoin mining".

please suggest a verified seller of casino certificates, to run ads in google ads

Hello Leeneks,

Sorry, unfortunately I have never done Social Casino, so I don't have idea of who sells them.

I know, by fact, that you can get a Social Casino License without paying no one, you just need to fill the Google Form, i'm just not sure what type of info they need.

If i'm not wrong this is the form: https://support.google.com/google-ads/contact/apac_casino_games_app?

Do you use GTM and install Google's tracking code for ad tracking?

Hello handsomeyy

Never. Click on next, and it will pop up, "you haven't connected your tag" just click skip.

I thought of this recently and good thing I saw it in Hoax config page to disable GA4 so i removed GA4 ad left GTM on my black but made sure GTA isn't connected to GTM (GTA - is just a place holder that doesn't do much unless you setup triggers so it doesn't track).
I am all set just waiting for answers for my above screenshot because I do not want to make mistake at this final stage.

In summary, just avoid GA4.

Exactly. Totally avoid it

Hello, I have (more) questions.

In one of your previous messages in this thread, you told me you had $0.18 CPC in Indonesia, and "In Indonesia, i'm getting something like 3-5% deposits on 1000 clicks." (to quote your message exactly).

Is this FTD rate really achievable? On page 6 of this thread "https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/ask-me-about-gambling-blackhat-ads.1687691/post-19121133) , you had responded to someone, showing them a screenshot of a dashboard, and that percentage might be more like a registration rate, not FTD (I don't know which geo you were running on, maybe I'm wrong in taking this message as an example).

So my question is: out of 1000 clicks, can we really get 3-5% deposits? Or are we looking more at 0.4-0.5%?

Thanks.

Hello snkrsresell!

I understand your question, let me clear things out ahahha.
This is Campaigns for India, you can take that note through the CPP. No one's paying more than 30$ on FTD in Indonesia.
Actually this was a very good deal
Looking at this one,
Taking the cost 42876,34/0.20= 214.381 Clicks.

So based on those campaigns,
Clicks - Registration:
Approx 1.81%
Clicks - FTD
Approx: 0.33%

Realistically saying, on 1000 clicks, you can get somethign around 1-5 FTD's in India.

But well, for Indonesia I can check that for you as well.
In Indonesia i'm getting CPC on 0.15-0.20$

Let's assume 0.20$ CPC, 124$ Spent, 626 Clicks.
This campaign in specific for those days only generated me 24 Registers and 14 FTD's
I can't share the Stats due to brand privacy, but that was the amount summed.
14/626*100= 2.24%

Campaign was still starting off so with time it gets to 3%+

that's $20k per month or total in 1 account?

also why not spread over several accounts and not just one?

Hello astroadept.

20k daily in ad spend?

Of course not daily!
When I said my accounts, I mean each Google Ad account, it's spending around 20k before dying.

The ad was rejected and deemed ineligible for delivery due to a policy violation.

what can i do

Hello yxtears.

What policy violation?

hi i thought i should share if my keywords are okay and can be easily manipulated later when I am creating the duplicate ads for black

My target countries are a mix of tier 1 and tier 2 countries.

Please if anyone has idea on this do not hesitate to help. I will really appreciate.

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Hello Amr00t.
Well, titles is where you need to be most careful. Everything looks normal, excepct for that Budget of 64$. 10$ daily is enough to star warming up an account.
Also I would try to get ad to excellent on Titles and Descriptions, in order to avoid getting triggered by low quality ad.
You're not showing any keywords on the images.

First thing which I can suggest never use that many headlines and descriptions when your end target is to convert those and run BH/GH campaigns.

Use only 3 Headlines & 2 Descriptions so that once its time to switch from WH to BH/GH it will be easier.

That helps a lot as well. So bh and wh are same "sized" for google.

 

[Katia76]

What would be the ideal budget to start Gambling ads to promote gambling affiliate sites. I hear that the field is very competetive and needs a high ads budget.

 

[snkrsresell]

Okay, I didn't know that the FTD rate for total clicks varied so much between geos.

Thank you for your response.

 

[Ashwinayadav]

pls contact detailes

 

[GauravCHD]

I am running various Google Ads accounts on the matter of Gambling, Casino related, etc.

3rd world countries are welcome, since that's my main target as today.

My accounts are reaching up to 20k USD$ for now. I'm on the expertize of cloaking techniques.

Feel free to ask any questions, I will try to help you as much as I can.

Could you please lemme know how I can run brand specific ads on adwords