SEO IS DEAD :O .. i doubt it.

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For years and years SEO is "dead" according to many people. There is always a way to rank on google.... these are rankings for one of my sites.

Maybe this will motivate someone to keep try ranking....Old methods still working...GL! (old domains, backlinks, social signals)..
 

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for me it's dead, and I don't care about other people's opinions, and I won't be convinced otherwise either :)

if anyone else is willing to become google's worker bee by all means, go for it! Everyone's free to do whatever they want with their life...
 
these are rankings for one of my sites.
Where?
As said earlier and in other threads, SEO is dead only for those who don't know how to do it.
Before, it was just a copy and paste job to build backlinks, stuff keywords but now you need to be precise, smart and skilful to rank webpages.
 
They probably just say its "dead" because SEO people are the worst, gatekeep everything
 
I think yes we should think about it being dead. Its just reinvented under a new name if it is. The same ideas is required to be included in chat bots. Also if you think about it. If you have a web presence of any kind. The first and only thing you want to do is be found. For this requires a search. Either by a google bot, or a chatgpt bot reading and searching your site for information.

Whoops I think I persuaded myself that SEO will never die as long as there are people building search engines or chat bots to scrape the web. lol (I should know better never to argue with myself! lol I always lose! :D hahaha)
 
As long as there are metrics that search algorithms use to identify what is 'good' to show for a query, and these metrics can be affected by outside influence (us), then there will always be something to optimise for search engines.
 
Why are you saying this? Please share if you have had any bad experiences.
Imo everyone in that space is trying to sell courses and ebooks, now by the looks of it SEO has changed, so i'd expect an influx of new courses/ebook threads, gl for any beginners trying to learn about it, hopefully its now really easy and simple
 
If truly said, those e-books and courses provide you with nothing. Everyone on Facebook ads are selling their digital marketing courses, but they haven't even reach to the right audience.
They just collect user data by doing this and if someone buys the course, then in the end of the course, they offer different courses and the information they provide in the course will be easily available on the web.

I am saying all this because I tested some courses just to know what they are offering but got nothing. Not saying this for all but mostly doing the same.
 
yeah, i follow OLD seo technics and still looking for update method and still doing seo to rank my website
 
No, Not dead, but some SEO tactics change or upgraded. Old domain, valuable content and niche relevant backlink still working.
 
SEO people are the worst
SEO people are fine, they just don't wanna give out their bread and butter. They still give out a lot of valuable advice.
The worst people are billionaires who write books with advice "work harder" and take money for it, sometimes a lot. These are real bastards.
 
for me it's dead, and I don't care about other people's opinions, and I won't be convinced otherwise either :)

if anyone else is willing to become google's worker bee by all means, go for it! Everyone's free to do whatever they want with their life...
So what are you pursuing now?
 
SEO people are fine, they just don't wanna give out their bread and butter. They still give out a lot of valuable advice.
The worst people are billionaires who write books with advice "work harder" and take money for it, sometimes a lot. These are real bastards.
that's fine, my point was don't buy SEO books and stuff, they aren't giving out the secret sauce
 
So what are you pursuing now?
my childhood hobby, which I'll keep private, but it's got nothing to do with SEO.... or even with making money online actually, it's just a dream I've had since a young kid :)

EDIT: I think you were referring to making money, though. In this case I'm doing nothing, I have a small stream of income which I life off of, and I also moved to the countryside where there aren't a lot of taxes (yet) that need to be paid. Also there is some food to come by via gardening, farming, etc...
 
my childhood hobby, which I'll keep private, but it's got nothing to do with SEO.... or even with making money online actually, it's just a dream I've had since a young kid :)

EDIT: I think you were referring to making money, though. In this case I'm doing nothing, I have a small stream of income which I life off of, and I also moved to the countryside where there aren't a lot of taxes (yet) that need to be paid. Also there is some food to come by via gardening, farming, etc...
Looks like you sorted. Have fun. There is nothing more important to peace of mind.
 
my childhood hobby, which I'll keep private, but it's got nothing to do with SEO.... or even with making money online actually, it's just a dream I've had since a young kid :)

EDIT: I think you were referring to making money, though. In this case I'm doing nothing, I have a small stream of income which I life off of, and I also moved to the countryside where there aren't a lot of taxes (yet) that need to be paid. Also there is some food to come by via gardening, farming, etc...
Congratulations on following your dreams. That’s big success. Bigger than driving an expensive car. But let’s be honest I’d rather have an expensive tractor or pickup truck anyway haha

I’ve been saying for a long time I don’t want to work for Google myself.
 
Congratulations on following your dreams. That’s big success. Bigger than driving an expensive car.
I've never cared much about cars (I'm not tech-inclined, computers are the only thing that get a pass from me and that's because I grew up with them, for 40 years), so thanks, for me this is a success indeed :)

But let’s be honest I’d rather have an expensive tractor or pickup truck anyway haha
sure, let's be honest: that's what YOU would rather have, not me. Like I said, I never cared about technology in general (and about vehicles in particular, which is part of the reason for which I've let my driving license expire in 2021 and I don't intend to ever renew it) besides the PCs (and not even consoles I don't like, even though I do like video games)....

This being said, I don't dismiss the importance of technology, I would be a total hypocrite to say this when I myself can't live without it :D ... But tractors are not my thing. Even if they do make work easier (and they do), I'd rather someone else drive them, and I just walk behind the tractor and do the easy, leftover stuff rather than drive the tractor myself.

Pickup trucks are not my thing. I'm not American, so I don't have cravings for big stuff like many USA citizens do. Small is almost always better :p

I’ve been saying for a long time I don’t want to work for Google myself.
much respect! Like most companies (at least the big ones), Google have become the villain. When they've started out in 1999 and up until late 2000s I'd say they have been amazing, I kept recommending them left and right because they've deserved it because their goal back then had been to serve good results to people, they've not been heavily into data mining, forcing behavioural changes and political agenda upon people, total surveillance and technological totalitarianism and all of this crap that plagues our society nowadays.

Back then they genuinely cared about users (or at least that's what I felt) and they didn't force everyone to have the same template of site (business-oriented one), there was huge diversity and coolness in the SERPs in every niche and for almost every keyword, and I felt like little guys and lazy bums like myself could succeed too, which is what had actually gotten me into SEO back in 2008. I genuinely did see potential in using google to make money online, and I genuinely made some easy, passive income between mid-2009 and up until 2011-early 2012. And then things got worse and worse... and worse... and... then the AI came and put an end to everything that worked well. Bleah....

Anyway, kudos to you for not wanting to side with this evil company. Hopefully more people will wake up to the reality (well, the one that I'm seeing and experiencing, I am pretty sure that not everyone is seeing the same things as I do, but one can only hope...)
 
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