DR Resolved kss633 vs. Jeff CloakSpere

[kss633]

Date of Transaction : 15/04/2025

Amount involved: $900 Total ( 200$ Setup Fees + 300$ Starting Budget + 400$ Required Budget )

Payment method: Cryptocurrency



This is the part where i'm starting to get suspicious, I just send him 500$, but i needed to add additional 400$ and that's fine, But then i started to check up on his account, everything is new, new bhw account, new telegram account, it's my mistake to not check on it the first time.
After he gave me a credential to the RDP VPS, i did not dare to open it, and try to ask for a review / sample from his previous client first.
He did not provide any and start to argue with me.
So i did not access the VPS and told him to just send me a daily report for the ads that are running by him.
He did not want and keep telling me to access the VPS he gave me.



My disagreement with this person is that he was supposed to run TikTok Ads and told me to just sit back and let him do all the works. But keep forcing me to access the RDP VPS that he gave me, and that makes me suspicious when i ask what is this for? why can't you just send me reports of the daily conversion from the ads?
The solution to this problem is simply for this person to return the funds they received to the original wallet with their own wallet.

 

[kss633]

Hi there, I cannot send any DM to him directly from BHW forums

This is the proof of the transaction, a total of 900usdt

The voice message was about his setup fees of 200$ and the fees of running the Tiktok Ads around 3-8% according to my budget

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Dispute Request Approved​

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[Jett CloakSphere]

Hi.

Well, I have all the conversation with @kss633 (@jamesss2222 on TG).

What you gotta know is that he refused to access the VPS I sent him and asked me to send him reports on a daily basis (which is not possible because that is not how I proceed).

I asked him multiple times to access the VPS, as per the agreed terms... but he just kept arguing and didn't even want to access the VPS to access the system.

I literally wasted all my time and I ended up set everything up for nothing. He is now asking for a refund but he is the one that refused to deal as per our terms. Not much I can do if he doesn't even want to access the VPS..

so I had to completely turn it off because anyways he wasnt even interested in logging in.

Attaching proof.

https://ibb.co/239bBbRr
https://ibb.co/275JcQTm
https://ibb.co/ch70MY8F
https://ibb.co/3ydGkR8n
https://ibb.co/mVhRxBSQ
https://ibb.co/6cJv23dt


I mean its pretty much all Ive got to say...

@kss633, I'd be happy to hear what youve got to say abt that..
Pretty bad business practise.

This is the message I sent yesterday in the convo with @PetraAnn and @BassTrackerBoats but you didnt even bother to give a proper answer.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Them not accessing the VPS is not a reason to keep all their money.

 

[Jett CloakSphere]

Them not accessing the VPS is not a reason to keep all their money.

I get where you're coming from, but sadly, the only reason this deal went sideways is because of him refusing to access the VPS.

He reached out to me on Telegram, I explained to him my terms and how I work, he AGREED to the terms and we decided to make a deal.

OK, all good.

BUT. After I set everything up, he started to balk and clearly told me he no longer wanted to access the VPS.

Everything was already set up and we were almost ready to go. I only needed him to access the VPS. He didn't want to.

I spent hours setting everything up for him and I also got costs to cover on my end.

I had to turn everything off. He didnt even bother and was dead set on getting a refund

You don’t get a refund at a buffet/restaurant because you chose not to eat after ordering. Same logic here.

 

[kss633]

Them not accessing the VPS is not a reason to keep all their money.

What is your end then? What's the solution for this? @Jett CloakSphere

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

You don’t get a refund at a buffet/restaurant because you chose not to eat after ordering. Same logic here.

This is not a buffet restaurant.

At the very least you owe them the return of everything but 200.00.

 

[Jett CloakSphere]

What is your end then? What's the solution for this? @Jett CloakSphere

This is not a buffet restaurant.

At the very least you owe them the return of everything but 200.00.

I set everything up, topped the VCC for the campaign and all..

I can't send his ad budget back as it was used to top up the VCC. I can't withdraw money from the VCC.


Obviously, this is not a buffet restaurant... but the logic remains the same.

I appreciate the fact that you are allowing me to keep the $200 (which was initially the service setup charge) but sending back his ad spend is also gonna be a little bit problematical.

@kss633 , this is your fault... im sorry but thats the truth. Look, this dispute wouldn't be live if you had followed my instructions and respected the terms of our deal.

By the way I have no idea why but seems like you are having a hard time giving a proper answer to my previous question.

so i'll just reiterate here:

Why in the world do you order a service if you are not even able to / do not want to follow the seller's instructions? I mean like that doesnt make any sense.


You contacted me, I explained what the process would be like to you (that's to say the VPS and stuff, you said OK and expressed that the VPS wasn't a problem and that you knew how to access a VPS... and after everything was ready, you told me you wanted daily reports as an alternative to the VPS (which is NOT possible).

WHY?

And now you asking for a refund. Come on, bud.

Your fault, own up to it...

Next time, be a lil bit more vigilant when ordering a service from a seller.

Lesson learned I guess.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

I set everything up, topped the VCC for the campaign and all..

I can't send his ad budget back as it was used to top up the VCC. I can't withdraw money from the VCC.


Obviously, this is not a buffet restaurant... but the logic remains the same.

I appreciate the fact that you are allowing me to keep the $200 (which was initially the service setup charge) but sending back his ad spend is also gonna be a little bit problematical.

@kss633 , this is your fault... im sorry but thats the truth. Look, this dispute wouldn't be live if you had followed my instructions and respected the terms of our deal.

By the way I have no idea why but seems like you are having a hard time giving a proper answer to my previous question.

so i'll just reiterate here:

Why in the world do you order a service if you are not even able to / do not want to follow the seller's instructions? I mean like that doesnt make any sense.


You contacted me, I explained what the process would be like to you (that's to say the VPS and stuff, you said OK and expressed that the VPS wasn't a problem and that you knew how to access a VPS... and after everything was ready, you told me you wanted daily report as an alternative to the VPS (which is NOT possible).

WHY?

And now you asking for a refund. Come on, bud.

Your fault, own up to it...

Next time, be a lil bit more vigilant when ordering a service from a seller.

Lesson learned I guess.

At the very least you owe them the return of everything but 200.00.

 

[Jett CloakSphere]

At the very least you owe them the return of everything but 200.00.

Im definitely more than willing to be cooperative and find a solution but dont you think its kind of exaggerated?

@kss663 proposed two solutions:

This is the message he sent in our convo: https://www.blackhatworld.com/direct-messages/dispute.30582438/#convMessage-35406041


"I'm just being aware because i had never done a deal with you before, and now there are only 2 options, run my ads with the remaining 700$ for a week or refund me my balance, you can keep the 200$ setup fees as we both agreed on"

I have no problem continuing the work and running his ads and all but he gotta be cooperative and access the VPS as required.


@BassTrackerBoats, @kss663 seems to be ok with this solution.. and so am I. Is that a solution you'd be ok with?

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

At the very least you owe them the return of everything but 200.00.

 

[kss633]

Im definitely more than willing to be cooperative and find a solution but dont you think its kind of exaggerated?

@kss663 proposed two solutions:

This is the message he sent in our convo: https://www.blackhatworld.com/direct-messages/dispute.30582438/#convMessage-35406041


"I'm just being aware because i had never done a deal with you before, and now there are only 2 options, run my ads with the remaining 700$ for a week or refund me my balance, you can keep the 200$ setup fees as we both agreed on"

I have no problem continuing the work and running his ads and all but he gotta be cooperative and access the VPS as required.


@BassTrackerBoats, @kss663 seems to be ok with this solution.. and so am I. Is that a solution you'd be ok with?

Run my remaining 700$ ads for a week, 100$/days, and we're fine and move on from there

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Run my remaining 700$ ads for a week, 100$/days, and we're fine and move on from there

No, they need to refund you.

 

[kss633]

No, they need to refund you.

Alright, refund are better

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Alright, refund are better

@Jett CloakSphere - you have 24 hours to refund the accuser.

 

[Jett CloakSphere]

@Jett CloakSphere - you have 24 hours to refund the accuser.

Ok. I completely disagree with that decision and have no idea why you dont allow me to continue the work to make the client whole whereas he is ok with that solution as well.

BUT... OK, I will refund him.

If that's what has to happen to resolve that situation, then all good... lets proceed with a refund, as per the staff's decision.

@kss663, please provide me with your USDT TRC20 address so I can issue a refund.

However, next time, please, please, please DO NOT waste any other sellers' time as thats just so disrespectful.

I just don't get it at all.

But hey all good, lets proceed in good faith.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Ok. I completely disagree with that decision and have no idea why you dont allow me to continue the work to make the client whole whereas he is ok with that solution as well.

BUT... OK, I will refund him.

If that's what has to happen to resolve that situation, then all good... lets proceed with a refund, as per the staff's decision.

@kss663, please provide me with your USDT TRC20 address so I can issue a refund.

However, next time, please, please, please DO NOT waste any other sellers' time as thats just so disrespectful.

I just don't get it at all.

But hey all good, lets proceed in good faith.

@kss633, please provide your USDT address.

 

[kss633]

This is my USDT TRC-20 address: TRKCeAjnrSEEvm

lol this is not mine, he wanted to scam me, look at the user id

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

lol this is not mine, he wanted to scam me, look at the user id

Please post yours.