Instagram API vs Device Emulation

[russula]

Is device emulation better than API usage for automation?

On the one hand, emulating a device (with a literal emulator, or remote device access) will actually do the things that regular users do. In theory, at least. Sometimes, there may be changes that break certain features, forced updates (if you use a very old Instagram version) and so on. However, these things are uncommon. With good proxies (residential + dedicated/shared with 1 or 2 users) and software that works as intended, this seems like a clear no-brainer. Device emulation could be literally undetectable if done right.

However, all that the app is doing is providing an interface that sends API requests. If programmed right, using the API should be just as seamless as device emulation. No bans, bot detection or anything like that. It's important to note here that Meta has "Whitehat" testing, allowing you to remove Certificate Pinning. The existence of this, in tandem with the many online guides regarding unofficial Certificate Pinning (patching the APK, for example) mean that reverse engineering the API isn't actually as hard of a task as it may first appear. It's tedious, but doable (There are also exisitng libraries documenting large parts of the API). I mention this as I feel that emulation is a lot of peoples' go-to method, in part, due to the ease of it. API use also has a huge benefit compared to emulation, in that it uses vastly less resources. You don't need the overhead that a device requires (virtual or otherwise). From a developer perspective, this means API use is much more scaleable, and cheaper on a per-account basis. This is beneficial for both service providers and users.

Of course, Instagram is notorious for it's anti-spam/bot detection measures. With no publically released limits for specific user actions, both API use and emulation both pose risks if not done correctly.

With this in mind, is API use really off-limits for emulation? I've seen a few posts in here that imply that it is. Although I'm well aware of the higher threshold for decent API methods, am I naive for believing it's possible? Does it not just need the right person (or people) to get it working?

Hopefully I'm making sense and not rambling too much, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter!

 

[Proxy Cake]

Device emulation is usually recommended in most cases but when you're trying to scale this can get difficult

 

[MR.Spuf]

Device emulation could be literally undetectable if done right.

Neah, it's detectable. They know, they just leave you alone if you don't blast it and you play nice.

right, using the API should be just as seamless as device emulation. No bans, bot detection or anything like that.

No it's not. Try to create accounts with API vs real emulation then come back and let's talk.

The algo and the checkpoints are so fluid and organically that you think it's random, but it isn't. They know from the first requests if it's api or device/emulator.

Residential proxy it's not even close, this simplly doesn't work. I don't want to bad mouth colleagues that are selling resis/dedi proxies, but using it will burn your money short, mid, long term.

API use really off-limits for emulation?

Pfff, I don't even know if you're serious or joking.

 

[ToyBox Marketing]

If you decide that you want to Make accounts using API and Emulators, just be careful because Instagram can detect when a user is making an action using API. However, you do have to take into consideration that some people are able to do it, but that are using good emails and high quality proxies that rotate often.

 

[russula]

Neah, it's detectable. They know, they just leave you alone if you don't blast it and you play nice.




No it's not. Try to create accounts with API vs real emulation then come back and let's talk.

The algo and the checkpoints are so fluid and organically that you think it's random, but it isn't. They know from the first requests if it's api or device/emulator.

Residential proxy it's not even close, this simplly doesn't work. I don't want to bad mouth colleagues that are selling resis/dedi proxies, but using it will burn your money short, mid, long term.


Pfff, I don't even know if you're serious or joking.

If you decide that you want to Make accounts using API and Emulators, just be careful because Instagram can detect when a user is making an action using API. However, you do have to take into consideration that some people are able to do it, but that are using good emails and high quality proxies that rotate often.

You both mention making/creating accounts. You mean registering completely new ones, unless I'm mistaken? I'm specifically thinking about performing actions on existing accounts, rather than making new ones. I understand that that's not easy with the API.

For standard actions such as viewing media, liking, commenting etc. I just don't see why this can't be done using the API. If your timing is human-like (+ good proxies + legit account) then what's the issue? Any sort of analytics endpoints that might get triggered in the app could also be mimicked too, in theory. It just requires a bit of reverse engineering/packet sniffing, no?

Maybe I'm being naive and/or stubborn, but I'd like to believe it's possible.

 

[MR.Spuf]

It just requires a bit of reverse engineering/packet sniffing, no?

No, it doesn't work like that, it's a rabbit hole

Maybe I'm being naive and/or stubborn, but I'd like to believe it's possible.

It's possible but they pick up very fast and they will bann your accounts. You need to have a complemetary method to create more accounts faster than their ban.


Start doing it first, then let's talk