Discuss: Why seems 301 does not affect? & Why to use 301?

[john_doe_]

Hi there,

As know gauthmath.com is one of the site temporarily not accessible, they are redirecting all pages to https://www.gauthmath.com/access-denied

- Seems they are using 301 redirect

- Seems the 301 does not affect Google SERP, all results are remaining.

Just wanted to discuss:

• Is 302 better than 301 under this situation?
• Technically, 301 redirect shall impact the search result, isn't it? What conditions will make 301 has no impact to SERP or to say, how to implement 301 redirect without impact to SERP?

Please share your comments.
Cheers,

JD

 

[tazarbm]

Is 302 better than 301 under this situation?

depending on their goals. 302 is a temporary redirect and it's used to redirect only for a few days / weeks, for permanent redirects you should use 301s...

I've no idea what that website is about, or what they're trying to do, so I can't answer this question. Only the owners of gauthmath.com can answer it

Technically, 301 redirect shall impact the search result, isn't it?

technically and realistically it shall, and it WILL impact the SERPs. But it might take time as it depends on how fast google update their database with the new redirects... Also, if they're 302 instead of 301 google might never update the search results since 302 - like I said - are temporary redirects and google will see this they'll know NOT to update the cache since the redirects are temporary and not permanent...

So, it's either a matter of time (if the redirects are 301), or the SERPs will never get updated if the redirects are 302

What conditions will make 301 has no impact to SERP or to say, how to implement 301 redirect without impact to SERP?

hmm... I guess you can append the new URLs with "noindex" tag (either via robots.txt, or htaccess, or plugins), and at the same time you can request google to remove the old URLs from their database, but I don't know how you can do this. I know that it's possible, I just don't know how to do it

 

[john_doe_]

depending on their goals. 302 is a temporary redirect and it's used to redirect only for a few days / weeks, for permanent redirects you should use 301s...

I've no idea what that website is about, or what they're trying to do, so I can't answer this question. Only the owners of gauthmath.com can answer it


technically and realistically it shall, and it WILL impact the SERPs. But it might take time as it depends on how fast google update their database with the new redirects... Also, if they're 302 instead of 301 google might never update the search results since 302 - like I said - are temporary redirects and google will see this they'll know NOT to update the cache since the redirects are temporary and not permanent...

So, it's either a matter of time (if the redirects are 301), or the SERPs will never get updated if the redirects are 302


hmm... I guess you can append the new URLs with "noindex" tag (either via robots.txt, or htaccess, or plugins), and at the same time you can request google to remove the old URLs from their database, but I don't know how you can do this. I know that it's possible, I just don't know how to do it

Thank you for reply tazarbm, I might be wrong, the result in SERP is patently changing, yesterday there were about 8.7million pages when user "site:gauthmath.com", today only 7.9million pages now, 301 is taking effect if the trend keeps tomorrow.

 

[john_doe_]

depending on their goals. 302 is a temporary redirect and it's used to redirect only for a few days / weeks, for permanent redirects you should use 301s...

I've no idea what that website is about, or what they're trying to do, so I can't answer this question. Only the owners of gauthmath.com can answer it


technically and realistically it shall, and it WILL impact the SERPs. But it might take time as it depends on how fast google update their database with the new redirects... Also, if they're 302 instead of 301 google might never update the search results since 302 - like I said - are temporary redirects and google will see this they'll know NOT to update the cache since the redirects are temporary and not permanent...

So, it's either a matter of time (if the redirects are 301), or the SERPs will never get updated if the redirects are 302


hmm... I guess you can append the new URLs with "noindex" tag (either via robots.txt, or htaccess, or plugins), and at the same time you can request google to remove the old URLs from their database, but I don't know how you can do this. I know that it's possible, I just don't know how to do it

seems 301 redirect with certain rules will not impact too much about ranking, indexed pages, etc.
they were just using either IP based 301 or User Agent based 301, it's because that the purpose was just for "banning from US user visits".
As a result, if it's detected a visit was from US, or/and not by Googlebots, then 301 redirect to "access denied" page will be there.
If a visit was not from US or/and by Googlebots, then 200OK code with normal pages will be returned.

 

[hideath]

The website pages are accessible to me directly & from Google SERPs,
It seems like they're blocking certain IPs/GEOs rather than a global 301,

Nothing wrong with the website,
It's a common practice for many websites/businesses when they don't show interest in customers from certain locations,
Or/and you're using an IP that's being blocked using their firewall systems, which usually happens with datacenter proxies/IPs, VPNs, etc...

 

[john_doe_]

The website pages are accessible to me directly & from Google SERPs,
It seems like they're blocking certain IPs/GEOs rather than a global 301,

Nothing wrong with the website,
It's a common practice for many websites/businesses when they don't show interest in customers from certain locations,
Or/and you're using an IP that's being blocked using their firewall systems, which usually happens with datacenter proxies/IPs, VPNs, etc...

you are correct, after checking, they only limited real user access from US, not for google crawler nor anyone/anything else.

 

[SeoMeg]

Hi there,

As know gauthmath.com is one of the site temporarily not accessible, they are redirecting all pages to https://www.gauthmath.com/access-denied

- Seems they are using 301 redirect
View attachment 413714

- Seems the 301 does not affect Google SERP, all results are remaining.
View attachment 413715


Just wanted to discuss:

• Is 302 better than 301 under this situation?
• Technically, 301 redirect shall impact the search result, isn't it? What conditions will make 301 has no impact to SERP or to say, how to implement 301 redirect without impact to SERP?

Please share your comments.
Cheers,

JD

If gauthmath.com is using a 301 redirect to an access-denied page, it could be due to regional restrictions, security measures, or a site update—try using a VPN or check with their support.