[Journey] Growing YT Shorts Channels

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Hello everyone,
I have an old style youtube channel with 175k subscribers, 30M+ views. So I know one thing or two about the plateform. But no need to say that 80% of these knowledges are useless when it comes to shorts.
Anyway, I am trying to create from scratch a couple of shorts channels (like if the first one works well, I'll duplicate the concept with 2 or 3 additionals). I started 2 months ago. I had no real idea of content, mainly I tried to replicate trending videos. I gained a couple of subscribers and watch time but as you will see, this is not really good.

So far I posted 55 videos (started jun 29th), gained about 400 subscribers, 75 shares, 210k views.
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What I discovered​

After posting many types of videos and analysing my stats I reach the conclusion that views rate and retention are definitely not the key metrics to focus on : From what I learnt, having 75-80% view rate and 80%+ retention rate is necessary but not enought to pass thought the 10k views kill zone. I think comments, but also shares and saves are the really important. Please correct me if I am wrong. So far the video with the best metrics has been killed at 14k views, with 70% view rate and 94% retention rate, but only 2 comments and 3 shares.
So my analysis is deductive : since I achieve reasonably good results in terms of view rate and retention, the explanation for not passing the kill zone must be somewhere else. One thing I noticed recently on a video is that when it does progress in terms of view rate (which is not easy to spot because in youtube studio this metric is given at the present time, this is not a chart) youtube triggers the view booster. That's something I need to confirm but maybe someone has already encountered this phenomenon?
Also I noticed 2 tricks that have a positive impact on the performance of a video. The first one is a glitch from youtube so I won't explain here to avoid them patching it, the second one is part of the secret sauce of the content I am currently testing.

My current focus​

Indeed since a couple of days, I feel like I have maybe found a good recipe. I am done playing the copy and paste game with successful shorts. Instead I took inspiration from 2 or 3 different concepts to create a new one, with my proper hashtag. Since I wanted to test this pretty fast, I posted 4 videos on this channel and 2 on a different one.
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This is the type of chart I get after 1 or 2 days, which makes me happy because this is my original content and I reach the same kind of results than with my copycat videos. Don't get me wrong, I won't be surprise that someone already published the same kind of video I came up with, and it might be really popular ! But this time if it does exist out there it's pure coincidence, my creativity led me to this content.
Anyway as proud as I am to create original stuff, this doesn't meet my expectations, I am still not able to pass the 10k kill zone. So I do my best to keep working but sometimes I feel really sad that my efforts are not paying off. I am not even looking for millions of views and subscribers but just some noticeable progress.

Conclusion of the post​

That's the reason why I started this journey : sharing with you guys my analysis, discussing thoughts and also finding energy and motivation to not give up ! If you have questions on this topic I will be really pleased to give valuable answers.
 
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You should post this journey in section section. That section is meant for all type of make money online journeys on BHW including an attempt on YouTube also.
 
Hello everyone,
I have an old style youtube channel with 175k subscribers, 30M+ views. So I know one thing or two about the plateform. But no need to say that 80% of these knowledges are useless when it comes to shorts.
Anyway, I am trying to create from scratch a couple of shorts channels (like if the first one works well, I'll duplicate the concept with 2 or 3 additionals). I started 2 months ago. I had no real idea of content, mainly I tried to replicate trending videos. I gained a couple of subscribers and watch time but as you will see, this is not really good.

So far I posted 55 videos (started jun 29th), gained about 400 subscribers, 75 shares, 210k views.
View attachment 371523View attachment 371524

What I discovered​

After posting many types of videos and analysing my stats I reach the conclusion that views rate and retention are definitely not the key metrics to focus on : From what I learnt, having 75-80% view rate and 80%+ retention rate is necessary but not enought to pass thought the 10k views kill zone. I think comments, but also shares and saves are the really important. Please correct me if I am wrong. So far the video with the best metrics has been killed at 14k views, with 70% view rate and 94% retention rate, but only 2 comments and 3 shares.
So my analysis is deductive : since I achieve reasonably good results in terms of view rate and retention, the explanation for not passing the kill zone must be somewhere else. One thing I noticed recently on a video is that when it does progress in terms of view rate (which is not easy to spot because in youtube studio this metric is given at the present time, this is not a chart) youtube triggers the view booster. That's something I need to confirm but maybe someone has already encountered this phenomenon?
Also I noticed 2 tricks that have a positive impact on the performance of a video. The first one is a glitch from youtube so I won't explain here to avoid them patching it, the second one is part of the secret sauce of the content I am currently testing.

My current focus​

Indeed since a couple of days, I feel like I have maybe found a good recipe. I am done playing the copy and paste game with successful shorts. Instead I took inspiration from 2 or 3 different concepts to create a new one, with my proper hashtag. Since I wanted to test this pretty fast, I posted 4 videos on this channel and 2 on a different one.
View attachment 371530

This is the type of chart I get after 1 or 2 days, which makes me happy because this is my original content and I reach the same kind of results than with my copycat videos. Don't get me wrong, I won't be surprise that someone already published the same kind of video I came up with, and it might be really popular ! But this time if it does exist out there it's pure coincidence, my creativity led me to this content.
Anyway as proud as I am to create original stuff, this doesn't meet my expectations, I am still not able to pass the 10k kill zone. So I do my best to keep working but sometimes I feel really sad that my efforts are not paying off. I am not even looking for millions of views and subscribers but just some noticeable progress.

Conclusion of the post​

That's the reason why I started this journey : sharing with you guys my analysis, discussing thoughts and also finding energy and motivation to not give up ! If you have questions on this topic I will be really pleased to give valuable answers.
Wow!
Wow, our situations are so similar! As a newbie, most of my videos have been stuck at 10k views, with only a few exceeding that, but they all eventually plateau at 13k. I get around 100k daily views, but as I mentioned, none of my videos have gone viral. They're all stuck between 8k and 13k, with 10k being the most common.
Similarly, I'm not chasing after a video that will hit 100k or 1000k views anymore. I'm just happy to see daily progress.
Let's be friends! We're so alike.
 
Hello everyone,
I have an old style youtube channel with 175k subscribers, 30M+ views. So I know one thing or two about the plateform. But no need to say that 80% of these knowledges are useless when it comes to shorts.
Anyway, I am trying to create from scratch a couple of shorts channels (like if the first one works well, I'll duplicate the concept with 2 or 3 additionals). I started 2 months ago. I had no real idea of content, mainly I tried to replicate trending videos. I gained a couple of subscribers and watch time but as you will see, this is not really good.

So far I posted 55 videos (started jun 29th), gained about 400 subscribers, 75 shares, 210k views.
View attachment 371523View attachment 371524

What I discovered​

After posting many types of videos and analysing my stats I reach the conclusion that views rate and retention are definitely not the key metrics to focus on : From what I learnt, having 75-80% view rate and 80%+ retention rate is necessary but not enought to pass thought the 10k views kill zone. I think comments, but also shares and saves are the really important. Please correct me if I am wrong. So far the video with the best metrics has been killed at 14k views, with 70% view rate and 94% retention rate, but only 2 comments and 3 shares.
So my analysis is deductive : since I achieve reasonably good results in terms of view rate and retention, the explanation for not passing the kill zone must be somewhere else. One thing I noticed recently on a video is that when it does progress in terms of view rate (which is not easy to spot because in youtube studio this metric is given at the present time, this is not a chart) youtube triggers the view booster. That's something I need to confirm but maybe someone has already encountered this phenomenon?
Also I noticed 2 tricks that have a positive impact on the performance of a video. The first one is a glitch from youtube so I won't explain here to avoid them patching it, the second one is part of the secret sauce of the content I am currently testing.

My current focus​

Indeed since a couple of days, I feel like I have maybe found a good recipe. I am done playing the copy and paste game with successful shorts. Instead I took inspiration from 2 or 3 different concepts to create a new one, with my proper hashtag. Since I wanted to test this pretty fast, I posted 4 videos on this channel and 2 on a different one.
View attachment 371530

This is the type of chart I get after 1 or 2 days, which makes me happy because this is my original content and I reach the same kind of results than with my copycat videos. Don't get me wrong, I won't be surprise that someone already published the same kind of video I came up with, and it might be really popular ! But this time if it does exist out there it's pure coincidence, my creativity led me to this content.
Anyway as proud as I am to create original stuff, this doesn't meet my expectations, I am still not able to pass the 10k kill zone. So I do my best to keep working but sometimes I feel really sad that my efforts are not paying off. I am not even looking for millions of views and subscribers but just some noticeable progress.

Conclusion of the post​

That's the reason why I started this journey : sharing with you guys my analysis, discussing thoughts and also finding energy and motivation to not give up ! If you have questions on this topic I will be really pleased to give valuable answers.
i love your post!im pretty new to social media and started an tiktok and instagram account doing motivational content...i have 2 diffrent content ideas i will try soon!i have been doing this like 2 months i think and my tiktok generates 500-1500 views per video...i would love to talk to you can you pm me?im curious about the things you do it would really help me..i would apprechiate it mate! :)
 
Hello quick update : I created a new channel to post new type of shorts. I posted my first video 36 hours ago, results are way better than I had before, as you can see on the following screenshots :
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I never gained that much subscribers on any video. Usually for my best shorts so far, after 36h they are in a range between +5 and +25 subscribers.
Likes and comments stats are also better (respectively 350 and 11). I then posted a new video 12 hours ago, but for the moment it's not performing as well as the first one. So my feelings are a mixed bag right now : I feel a little bit better than when I wrote the first post, because I was begging for a sign of improvement, and this seems like one. At least a progression in results. And I am also curious to see how this shorts will evolve, especially if it will pass through the 10k kill zone or if it's still not enought. I also wonder if the initial +200 subscribers is not a kind of a free booster from youtube as I've just created my channel (the gmail account is 10 yo though)... If someone has an insight about this, feel free to share !
And I will keep updating
 
Wow!
Wow, our situations are so similar! As a newbie, most of my videos have been stuck at 10k views, with only a few exceeding that, but they all eventually plateau at 13k. I get around 100k daily views, but as I mentioned, none of my videos have gone viral. They're all stuck between 8k and 13k, with 10k being the most common.
Similarly, I'm not chasing after a video that will hit 100k or 1000k views anymore. I'm just happy to see daily progress.
Let's be friends! We're so alike.
How do you get 100k view daily? How many video you post in a day? How long you've been uploading shorts?
 
even if 22,9% only swiped but i noticed that youtube algorithm is not stable for this statestics it must push this video to at least 100k but ill show you it will stuck in 10k 12 or 20 k views
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and how you make money with it?
I see 3 different ways :
1. Youtube money (eventhough it's not paying as much as regular videos)
2. Creating a formation : In my native langague there is no one offering this type of content. But to be legit I need to showcase a couple of sucessful channels.
3. Using shorts to promote some products I already sell on shopify.
 
Nice, so whats your roadmap here.
To be honest for the moment I don't have a real roadmap to follow, since I don't see a clear progression. I had a good start a few days ago with a new channel but this is not confirming... So I am still experimenting here and there, trying new stuffs...
If something works well, I will duplicate really fast on several other channels, my goal is to have at least 2 more channels with 100k.
If I reach this goal, I think I will have enought matter and knowledges to create a formation. I learnt a lot from the 2 last month, I would have many things to share if I create a formation, but.... Who is going to buy the formation of a loser anyway ? That doesn't make sens, so I really need to complete the first steps before thinking of anything else
 
To be honest for the moment I don't have a real roadmap to follow, since I don't see a clear progression. I had a good start a few days ago with a new channel but this is not confirming... So I am still experimenting here and there, trying new stuffs...
If something works well, I will duplicate really fast on several other channels, my goal is to have at least 2 more channels with 100k.
If I reach this goal, I think I will have enought matter and knowledges to create a formation. I learnt a lot from the 2 last month, I would have many things to share if I create a formation, but.... Who is going to buy the formation of a loser anyway ? That doesn't make sens, so I really need to complete the first steps before thinking of anything else
Cool, trying is important. Keep doing and dont give up. I am sure you ll get there soon buddy.
 
Friday 8:53-10:53 interesting...

Niche: (In my native langague)there is no one offering this type of content. But to be legit I need to showcase a couple of sucessful channels.


Will have to ask @# to generate a video in a language I don't speak to generate interest. English is to saturated, wouldn't matter if I speak it or not, but @#£#££# videos would work, I can think in a view languages the algorithm would pick up on.
 
Update : my new channel has been created 7 days ago. I posted 5 shorts : 2 of them achieved what I would call "good results" in terms of traction but didn't pass the 10k filter...
So here are the key metrics : roughly 18k views, +460 subscribers, 71 comments.
My last video did 44 comments in 10.5k views, 385 likes, +234 subscribers, 77% view rate and 101% retention rate (lenght 0:16)

What I discovered
Ok, the last video had good results. However, it was a repost. I already published it 3 days ago and it get stuck at 400 views. So I deleted it and reposted, and didn't change anything in terms of content, even the title was the same. The only thing different this time was the upload method : I used to post from my phone. This time I posted from my computer... So I wonder if there is a sort of geofencing bullshit system like on tiktok, preventing your video to reach globally or at least reaching first people in your country / langague.

Still frustrating to see the video shadow banned at 10k, but gaining subscribers and comments is a progression, it shows the viewers interacts with the content.
 
How you plan to make money with these shorts channel? My shorts channel is paying very less rpm. I have lot of views but still fail to reach $100 per month.
 
How you plan to make money with these shorts channel? My shorts channel is paying very less rpm. I have lot of views but still fail to reach $100 per month.
I see 3 different ways :
1. Youtube money (eventhough it's not paying as much as regular videos)
2. Creating a formation : In my native langague there is no one offering this type of content. But to be legit I need to showcase a couple of sucessful channels.
3. Using shorts to promote some products I already sell on shopify.
 
This is awesome analysis. Are you using specific keywords? I haven't ventured to youTube yet, but I am eyeing for it.
 
Maybe you can have a change due to French is underexploited language

Spanish is now flooded (and there is no business if you are in Spain, with european cost of living, competing with million of latin people with other economic situation)

English of course is also saturated (due to everybody around the world tries their journeys in English)

But if you find a niche that could be attractive for French ex colonies people, maybe you could rock it. I know, the cpm rates of non occidental countries is very low, but you can use them to gain visibility and be in a better searching or suggesting possition when somebody from France or Quebec look for your content/services
 
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