Chaturbate vs Stripcash affiliate programs

[Turbo B.]

No, I have very high quality tier 1 traffic, they convert extremely well. My doubts with promoting Stripchat are two:

First, I know Chaturbate affiliate inside out so it's very easy for me to use. If I start using Stripchat I will have a learning curve to go through and I don't know if I want to dedicate my time to learning a new panel, new system etc.

Second, so far the only sponsor I have ever worked with that hasn't shaved me has been Chaturbate. I 100% trust their program, and I have had real shit stories in the past with CPA networks and other camsites (MFC) they left me hanging after years of hard work by closing my account for no reason. Lost all my revshare accounts and was completely blindsided. I don't trust Stripchat because I have never worked with them and I would hate to dedicate time and effort to a program that might shave me.

If currently CB is working well for you, your spenders and earnings are rising - stay with them. If you have additional traffic, time, and wish to test - test Stripchat. Simple.

 

[vizercato]

If currently CB is working well for you, your spenders and earnings are rising - stay with them. If you have additional traffic, time, and wish to test - test Stripchat. Simple.

Like I stated in my OP the reason I want to try other camsites is because I am frustrated at Chaturbate. My earnings have been declining steadily and I know why. The promo tools are featuring models that DO NOT CONVERT WELL. I should maybe write a separate post about this but traffic doesn't click on thngs that look and feel pre-recorded. The best converting material is amateur FOR A REASON. And it's not enough to be amateur, things need to feel amateur, too.

Lately because of the mechanics of the promo tools on Chaturbate, their selection criteria, the models that show up on the promo tools are almost entirely studio models with fit/slender bodies, who do not interact with the chat because they are using an interactive toy or a fuck machine or a dildo. So people seeing these embeds/pop-unders or whatever think it's all pre-recorded.

Let me show you the difference.

THESE are effective models to feature if you want to drive traffic and conversions because they are imperfect, they have curves so there is interest, they aren't entirely naked all the time, they are working from their home, it looks absolutely legit, AND they are interacting with the chat. These type of models are NEVER featured on the tools.




THIS IS WHAT WE GET INSTEAD.... (the following examples were taken right off the promo tools the other day) It's close ups of a pussy with a dildo going in, no interaction possible, the setting looks 100% pro, so people think it's a set, a recording. Who is going to visit this or convert? If they want to watch videos they go to pornhub. We get models who look like a professional. Colombian orgies and models with stick figure bodies that nobody cares to see naked cause they have no ass, no boobs, nothing at all.



Who is going to visit and convert with the second type of model? Only 4tier traffic would visit the site with this type of content.

And the thing is, it didn't use to be this way but something changed around 2019 and the promo tools never again featured normal models. It was studios, orgies and stick figures from then on. If they let me handpick my selection I would be happy because my traffic would still be converting. But I have to suck up whatever they decide to feature on the promo tools. So that is why I am asking if Stripchat lets you pick specific models.

 

[zoomflirts]

Guys these stats are bad, right? This is from today (started promoting yesterday lol)

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Even the countries are pretty good but conversion rate looks terrible.

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Is it normal to have so low spenders in the first day of getting all these signups? Should I expect new spenders from same signups in the upcoming days or do they usually spend right after they signup?

Very weak profits. What is the name of this company?

 

[Rudecam]

I think you should just give stripchat a try for yourself. From my experience, it is better than Chaturbate in every way. They try to be more transparent and are farrr more innovative. I say to you that you should try and and see for yourself.
The complains about Stripchat API sounds like a programmer issue to me. With their API, it is possible to do all sorts of twist & turns however you want.

 

[Rudecam]

I know you asked about Stripchat vs Chaturbate, but Streamate is also good from my observations. They are worth checking out too

 

[vizercato]

I know you asked about Stripchat vs Chaturbate, but Streamate is also good from my observations. They are worth checking out too

Nah, I don't like private based camsites for affiliate marketing, I much prefer token sites that's why I asked about CB vs SC. Camsoda and Bongacams underperform from what I can see superficially. But you are right, I will give Stripchat a try.

Learning a new platform is a tricky process that takes time and effort so if I do it and they shave me it will be frustrating.
If they shave I will know for sure

 

[Turbo B.]

Like I stated in my OP the reason I want to try other camsites is because I am frustrated at Chaturbate. My earnings have been declining steadily and I know why. The promo tools are featuring models that DO NOT CONVERT WELL. I should maybe write a separate post about this but traffic doesn't click on thngs that look and feel pre-recorded. The best converting material is amateur FOR A REASON. And it's not enough to be amateur, things need to feel amateur, too.

Lately because of the mechanics of the promo tools on Chaturbate, their selection criteria, the models that show up on the promo tools are almost entirely studio models with fit/slender bodies, who do not interact with the chat because they are using an interactive toy or a fuck machine or a dildo. So people seeing these embeds/pop-unders or whatever think it's all pre-recorded.

Let me show you the difference.

THESE are effective models to feature if you want to drive traffic and conversions because they are imperfect, they have curves so there is interest, they aren't entirely naked all the time, they are working from their home, it looks absolutely legit, AND they are interacting with the chat. These type of models are NEVER featured on the tools.


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THIS IS WHAT WE GET INSTEAD.... (the following examples were taken right off the promo tools the other day) It's close ups of a pussy with a dildo going in, no interaction possible, the setting looks 100% pro, so people think it's a set, a recording. Who is going to visit this or convert? If they want to watch videos they go to pornhub. We get models who look like a professional. Colombian orgies and models with stick figure bodies that nobody cares to see naked cause they have no ass, no boobs, nothing at all.

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Who is going to visit and convert with the second type of model? Only 4tier traffic would visit the site with this type of content.

And the thing is, it didn't use to be this way but something changed around 2019 and the promo tools never again featured normal models. It was studios, orgies and stick figures from then on. If they let me handpick my selection I would be happy because my traffic would still be converting. But I have to suck up whatever they decide to feature on the promo tools. So that is why I am asking if Stripchat lets you pick specific models.

Well, this does not affect current spenders in my opinion.

But new one - of course.

Stripchat:

You have an ability to choose specific model - CB also has this:



I am sending traffic to homepage - users will pick up that they like. You need hardcore filtering if you are running very specific niche sites and driving traffic from them. I am running cam sites without specific niches.

 

[VCC ROYAL]

My intent is to ask your opinion on Chaturbate's affiliate program and if I should split my advertising efforts with Stripcash and other less popular camsites. My frustration with Chaturbate has been growing lately and I believe other affiliates feel the same way because Chaturbate used to be the go-to pop-up and embed offers on most sites, and it has been replaced almost entirely, I don't see Chaturbate in ads anymore.

For context: I have been working adult affiliate programs since 2010. From all the programs out there I eventually settled for Chaturbate because it had a great conversion rate and they never shaved me. This worked pretty well for years, and I am still riding the wave of the high conversion rate from the past, I have really good earnings still. However, the rate of conversion has declined, the new accounts don't spend the same, the decline began around 2019 and my theory is this is due to Chaturbate changing the selection criteria (the algorithm) for the type of models they select to be featured in the promo tools. The models they pick now are terrible and don't drive conversions. I can elaborate on this if there is any interest.

For this reason I am shopping for a new sponsor. My main issue is TRUST. I was burned by CPA Networks pretty bad in the past, specifically CrakRevenue who shaved my leads and my revenue for YEARS and I let it slide until they simply closed my account with a shit excuse never to reopen it again, I lost 10 years worth of revshare accounts and all the earnings I had in my account. For this reason I am extremely cautious when trying out a new sponsor.

I want to ask the good people of BlackHatWorld what your experience has been with:

1) Stripcash
2) Bongacash
3) Camsoda

Are these reliable? Is the conversion rate better? Have you ever worked with Chaturbate as a sponsor?

Thank you for your insights.

Many affiliates have noticed that Chaturbate is not doing as well as it used to. Even though it is still a popular choice it is smart to look for other options. Stripcash and bongacash are usually dependable but their conversion rates can change. Camsoda has some good opportunities but you need to check it out carefully. It is really important to trust the platforms you choose so think about trying them out on a small scale before investing a lot of money. Keep an eye on how well things are going and be ready to change your plan if necessary. Based on what you have learned before it is super important to do your research when picking a new sponsor.

appreciated

 

[vizercato]

Well, this does not affect current spenders in my opinion.

But new one - of course.

Stripchat:

You have an ability to choose specific model - CB also has this:

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I am sending traffic to homepage - users will pick up that they like. You need hardcore filtering if you are running very specific niche sites and driving traffic from them. I am running cam sites without specific niches.

CB lets you pick the room to send traffic to with the text links but not with the promo tools. I am interested in embedding a cam but only if I can control which cams it will display. Not interested in losing valuable space to pre-recorded looking cams that will not convert

 

[TDR]

What does it matter where the models are from? It's not a dating site... the members aren't going to be meeting any of them

When you say the design is better, what exactly is better? I would like to be able to handpick the models the embed codes display. Pick them specifically, not in a general way like "big boobs" or "tattoos" but I want a specific model or group of models. Is it possible?

Yeah but if I can get my country's model to target same users, It will be perfect match for them as that's what they are looking for and it will convert best.

I don't like Chaturbate's mobile UI design as it's too much glitches faced on streaming the video, First I thought it's from model side issue but every model I choose, It wasn't working for all, Stripchat is working much better and they have option of ultra low latency feature.

I can assure you StripCash affiliate program is one of the best cam programs running right now, You should try at once.

 

[vizercato]

Yeah but if I can get my country's model to target same users, It will be perfect match for them as that's what they are looking for and it will convert best.

I don't like Chaturbate's mobile UI design as it's too much glitches faced on streaming the video, First I thought it's from model side issue but every model I choose, It wasn't working for all, Stripchat is working much better and they have option of ultra low latency feature.

I can assure you StripCash affiliate program is one of the best cam programs running right now, You should try at once.

Will give it a try for sure

 

[marginwalker]

Hey, I'm a total newbie, but based on the stuff read here I guess I should choose Stripcash if making a cam site

Just a few newb questions:
1. Are cam affiliates still more profitable than paysite affiliates?
2. Why does Stripcash and their like need affiliate sites anyway? For instance, if I type the kind of cam girls I'm looking for in Google, I'll get Chaturbate, Stripchat etc. at the top, so who visits affiliate sites and why

 

[BufferOver]

I also moved to Stripcash, so far they convert good. Haven't seen any positive comment about Chaturbate lately, lot of ppl moved from there. They don't care about spenders stealing and traffic leaks from the models. But nothing beats the Chaturbate conversion few years back.

 

[TDR]

Hey, I'm a total newbie, but based on the stuff read here I guess I should choose Stripcash if making a cam site

Just a few newb questions:
1. Are cam affiliates still more profitable than paysite affiliates?
2. Why does Stripcash and their like need affiliate sites anyway? For instance, if I type the kind of cam girls I'm looking for in Google, I'll get Chaturbate, Stripchat etc. at the top, so who visits affiliate sites and why

Cam affiliate program is long term earning game, It can take months to get result unlike CPA/PPL offers who give you instant profit !

Why Amazon running affiliate program when people are already shopping directly from the website ? You are bringing the traffic to them and They are give you 20% of revenue share !

 

[vizercato]

I also moved to Stripcash, so far they convert good. Haven't seen any positive comment about Chaturbate lately, lot of ppl moved from there. They don't care about spenders stealing and traffic leaks from the models. But nothing beats the Chaturbate conversion few years back.

Like I said on this thread before the idea that models steal spenders in significant numbers is absurd but it really caught on. I suppose it’s Chaturbate’s fault for not sending someone with a brain to explain to affiliates the fact that cookies don’t expire and it’s a ridiculous idea. Instead they changed the promo tools

 

[vizercato]

It’s perplexing many affiliates think smartlinks and cpa networks are a good idea and yet turned away from CB because “models steal spenders” when in reality middle men shave your earnings and rob you blind and whatever damage a model could do is negligible. The discrediting campaign against Chaturbate was very effective and it’s curious it happened just as Stripchat was taking off. Makes you wonder.

 

[Rudecam]

It’s perplexing many affiliates think smartlinks and cpa networks are a good idea and yet turned away from CB because “models steal spenders” when in reality middle men shave your earnings and rob you blind and whatever damage a model could do is negligible. The discrediting campaign against Chaturbate was very effective and it’s curious it happened just as Stripchat was taking off. Makes you wonder.

It is not so black and white if I am being real. CPA networks like Crakrevenue has some benefits that makes them attractive especially for newbies. The shaving thing is another story.

 

[vizercato]

It is not so black and white if I am being real. CPA networks like Crakrevenue has some benefits that makes them attractive especially for newbies. The shaving thing is another story.

“Another story” having your earnings stolen. Lmao.

The only “benefits” worth having your shit stolen is the sobering that comes with it.

You quickly learn anyone who promises to take care of everything for you will also take care of keeping your earnings close to their pockets.

 

[Rudecam]

“Another story” having your earnings stolen. Lmao.

The only “benefits” worth having your shit stolen is the sobering that comes with it.

You quickly learn anyone who promises to take care of everything for you will also take care of keeping your earnings close to their pockets.

I feel terrible sounding like I am defending them lol. But I made good money with crak so I can't say all bad about them. The thing with shaving is that I didn't gather enough evidence to 100% confirm it. But there are days I feel things are a bit too slow. If I should be honest, I have those days with direct offers too.
That aside, I can give crakrevenue props for giving good support, having a whole tonne of offers one place, always paying out on time. A good way to go about things is to do it on an offer basis and focusing on your needs at the moment. Test Test and more Test then decide what works best for you. There are some offers that crakrevenue has that most people won't have access to elsewhere. For example MFC and Stripchat PPS is not available in many other places. Those two offers might do well with your traffic, who knows.
To wrap up my point, test and see what works best for you. It's usually not a one size fits all in this game.

 

[vizercato]

I feel terrible sounding like I am defending them lol. But I made good money with crak so I can't say all bad about them. The thing with shaving is that I didn't gather enough evidence to 100% confirm it. But there are days I feel things are a bit too slow. If I should be honest, I have those days with direct offers too.
That aside, I can give crakrevenue props for giving good support, having a whole tonne of offers one place, always paying out on time. A good way to go about things is to do it on an offer basis and focusing on your needs at the moment. Test Test and more Test then decide what works best for you. There are some offers that crakrevenue has that most people won't have access to elsewhere. For example MFC and Stripchat PPS is not available in many other places. Those two offers might do well with your traffic, who knows.
To wrap up my point, test and see what works best for you. It's usually not a one size fits all in this game.

From your shilling it feels like you are a CrakRevenue account, I might be wrong but I doubt it.

There are enough seasoned affiliates on this forum who have been shaved and robbed by CrakRevenue that putting your trust on them to “test” if they rob you or not is naive at best and stupid at baseline level.

What does it matter if you pay on time when you rob most of what I make? It’s a clown’s argument. I recommend anyone looking to work with CrakRevenue to take the time to read through the CrakRevenue threads on this forum. Use the search feature.