Hello everyone, I just registered on Cpagrid and I have a question. I see a lot of profitable offers with credit card and pin submit. My question is, if I get people to do this, is it illegal? In other words, are these people being scammed or frauded or there is no crime involved at all? Please explain me..
Question about cpa grip
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Only the CPA Networks knows exactly what is happening with the information, we can't say for sure what happens. Maybe they get entered into some raffles or sweepstakes as it relates to the emails. Not sure about the pin submits.
BNB
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Well, close to 100% (if not 100%) of all CPA offers on almost all CPA oriented networks is a compete scam.
PIN offers are in the past. These are where you receive SMS with a number/code to finish an offer.
Credit card (CC) offers came as replacement to PIN offers, as they are legally disabled in many countries nowadays.
Historical info: everyone was promoting PIN offers and advertisers used to charge you weekly or monthly, over and over again.
For some PIN offers, you could send SMS with text STOP to cancel charging. For some offers there was no cancel option. It creates an active subscription, user automatically agrees with. Offers payout was around $12+ $20+ $30+ even $50+ back in the days.
Means that every person who used his phone number to receive sms and type code in offer, was charged with bigger numbers every single week/month. CPA networks and advertisers also take their cut.
PIN offers era was golden for everyone who was abusing this, publishers, advertisers, networks. (today PINS not work very well)
Back to CC offers. These are legal as you need to type your credit card details, and probably gonna work without issues in the future.
But, these offers are no different. It is still a SCAM.
If you promote something else (not direct offer) that is a double scam, in case you do not provide what you advertise.
You are legally safe, before and now, if that is your concern.
Maybe not in every single country, but you would need to become a millionaire so someone would go after you. Always protect your privacy anyways.
But do not listen to nobody or believe that you can get new iphone for 25 bucks or something like that.
Be 100% assured that you are scamming people, legally, lol.
Some other offers such are PPI PPD pay per install/download work better, and deliver advertised.
For example, you need to download & install game or program and offer is completed, or 2 programs etc.
Another offers are email submit, where you can get paid for only entering your email address and filling a survey afterwards.
Email offers are mostly scam as well
(offering $100 worth of gift cards, or other resources, in exchange of your email)
I can't claim this to be 100% accurate for all CPA offers/networks, but it is not far from truth.
There is no such CPA network where CPA offers deliver as advertised. Maybe few offers do, but that is very rare.
Also note that offers are here today, gone tomorrow. Networks take care to stay safe, it's their part of the game.
Summary:
You do CPA etc = You are a scammer
PIN offers are in the past. These are where you receive SMS with a number/code to finish an offer.
Credit card (CC) offers came as replacement to PIN offers, as they are legally disabled in many countries nowadays.
Historical info: everyone was promoting PIN offers and advertisers used to charge you weekly or monthly, over and over again.
For some PIN offers, you could send SMS with text STOP to cancel charging. For some offers there was no cancel option. It creates an active subscription, user automatically agrees with. Offers payout was around $12+ $20+ $30+ even $50+ back in the days.
Means that every person who used his phone number to receive sms and type code in offer, was charged with bigger numbers every single week/month. CPA networks and advertisers also take their cut.
PIN offers era was golden for everyone who was abusing this, publishers, advertisers, networks. (today PINS not work very well)
Back to CC offers. These are legal as you need to type your credit card details, and probably gonna work without issues in the future.
But, these offers are no different. It is still a SCAM.
If you promote something else (not direct offer) that is a double scam, in case you do not provide what you advertise.
You are legally safe, before and now, if that is your concern.
Maybe not in every single country, but you would need to become a millionaire so someone would go after you. Always protect your privacy anyways.
But do not listen to nobody or believe that you can get new iphone for 25 bucks or something like that.
Be 100% assured that you are scamming people, legally, lol.
Some other offers such are PPI PPD pay per install/download work better, and deliver advertised.
For example, you need to download & install game or program and offer is completed, or 2 programs etc.
Another offers are email submit, where you can get paid for only entering your email address and filling a survey afterwards.
Email offers are mostly scam as well
(offering $100 worth of gift cards, or other resources, in exchange of your email)I can't claim this to be 100% accurate for all CPA offers/networks, but it is not far from truth.
There is no such CPA network where CPA offers deliver as advertised. Maybe few offers do, but that is very rare.
Also note that offers are here today, gone tomorrow. Networks take care to stay safe, it's their part of the game.
Summary:
You do CPA etc = You are a scammer
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TheLoveofMoney
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It is not legit but surely won't matter if you won't get caught.
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Stop trying to make CPA marketers look bad. Some of the offers actually deliver on sweepstakes giveaways. Some of your points are fair, tbh and some of the offers come off as a scam but if you read the fine prints, there is really no lies. They say you have a chance to win and not that you will win the iPhone or Giftcards. It's the way that people promote the offers make it seem unethical.Well, close to 100% (if not 100%) of all CPA offers on almost all CPA oriented networks is a compete scam.
PIN offers are in the past. These are where you receive SMS with a number/code to finish an offer.
Credit card (CC) offers came as replacement to PIN offers, as they are legally disabled in many countries nowadays.
Historical info: everyone was promoting PIN offers and advertisers used to charge you weekly or monthly, over and over again.
For some PIN offers, you could send SMS with text STOP to cancel charging. For some offers there was no cancel option. It creates an active subscription, user automatically agrees with. Offers payout was around $12+ $20+ $30+ even $50+ back in the days.
Means that every person who used his phone number to receive sms and type code in offer, was charged with bigger numbers every single week/month. CPA networks and advertisers also take their cut.
PIN offers era was golden for everyone who was abusing this, publishers, advertisers, networks. (today PINS not work very well)
Back to CC offers. These are legal as you need to type your credit card details, and probably gonna work without issues in the future.
But, these offers are no different. It is still a SCAM.
If you promote something else (not direct offer) that is a double scam, in case you do not provide what you advertise.
You are legally safe, before and now, if that is your concern.
Maybe not in every single country, but you would need to become a millionaire so someone would go after you. Always protect your privacy anyways.
But do not listen to nobody or believe that you can get new iphone for 25 bucks or something like that.
Be 100% assured that you are scamming people, legally, lol.
Some other offers such are PPI PPD pay per install/download work better, and deliver advertised.
For example, you need to download & install game or program and offer is completed, or 2 programs etc.
Another offers are email submit, where you can get paid for only entering your email address and filling a survey afterwards.
Email offers are mostly scam as well
I can't claim this to be 100% accurate for all CPA offers/networks, but it is not far from truth.
There is no such CPA network where CPA offers deliver as advertised. Maybe few offers do, but that is very rare.
Also note that offers are here today, gone tomorrow. Networks take care to stay safe, it's their part of the game.
Summary:
You do CPA etc = You are a scammer
wimiphp
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Not really. Most CPA networks actually tell marketers to not say that what they promote is 'free' and should mention that there is a chance that the for example get 100$ worth of a giftcard. Maybe CPAGrip does things differently, but CPAGrip will also not pay you, so there is that. Besides that its very shady buisness usally at its hight, but as long so they get enough peoples data, they will likely make much more than $100 in total to actually give a participant a gift card or something else in the height proclaimed.Well, close to 100% (if not 100%) of all CPA offers on almost all CPA oriented networks is a compete scam.
PIN offers are in the past. These are where you receive SMS with a number/code to finish an offer.
Credit card (CC) offers came as replacement to PIN offers, as they are legally disabled in many countries nowadays.
Historical info: everyone was promoting PIN offers and advertisers used to charge you weekly or monthly, over and over again.
For some PIN offers, you could send SMS with text STOP to cancel charging. For some offers there was no cancel option. It creates an active subscription, user automatically agrees with. Offers payout was around $12+ $20+ $30+ even $50+ back in the days.
Means that every person who used his phone number to receive sms and type code in offer, was charged with bigger numbers every single week/month. CPA networks and advertisers also take their cut.
PIN offers era was golden for everyone who was abusing this, publishers, advertisers, networks. (today PINS not work very well)
Back to CC offers. These are legal as you need to type your credit card details, and probably gonna work without issues in the future.
But, these offers are no different. It is still a SCAM.
If you promote something else (not direct offer) that is a double scam, in case you do not provide what you advertise.
You are legally safe, before and now, if that is your concern.
Maybe not in every single country, but you would need to become a millionaire so someone would go after you. Always protect your privacy anyways.
But do not listen to nobody or believe that you can get new iphone for 25 bucks or something like that.
Be 100% assured that you are scamming people, legally, lol.
Some other offers such are PPI PPD pay per install/download work better, and deliver advertised.
For example, you need to download & install game or program and offer is completed, or 2 programs etc.
Another offers are email submit, where you can get paid for only entering your email address and filling a survey afterwards.
Email offers are mostly scam as well
I can't claim this to be 100% accurate for all CPA offers/networks, but it is not far from truth.
There is no such CPA network where CPA offers deliver as advertised. Maybe few offers do, but that is very rare.
Also note that offers are here today, gone tomorrow. Networks take care to stay safe, it's their part of the game.
Summary:
You do CPA etc = You are a scammer
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Wait CPA Grip doesn't pay. I use OGAds but I thought CPAGrip was legit.
BNB
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I am not trying anything. Offers are fake, there is no chance for anything... they just scam you.
I will be happy to see any proofs against my words. PPI PPD are fine. CPA CC PIN 99.9% (100%) FAKE
Just prove me wrong if you can. You can call CPA network owners for assistance. I'll wrestle them, no worries.
Everything you say is 100% false. Read my reply above, and prove me wrong.
You speak super fake info. LOL
And that about what CPA networks advice you to do, of course they will say you to provide what you advertise, because network offers are SCAM
So if you SCAM for your product or whatever your niche is, that is a double SCAM
That is why they try to at least give something to customers of yours. (your job)
Grip is legit, they pay, I use that network last 10 years.
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Let me take a look at that thread, can you link it
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if I get people to do this, is it illegal? NO because:
1. CPA Marketing is a legal and real business
2. CPA Grip is one of the real cpa networks out there
3. Those credit card and pin submit offers are from real and legit companies that paid loads of $$$ to be on CPA Grip
1. CPA Marketing is a legal and real business
2. CPA Grip is one of the real cpa networks out there
3. Those credit card and pin submit offers are from real and legit companies that paid loads of $$$ to be on CPA Grip
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wimiphp
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Agreed, MaxBounty offers literally say on some offers do not use certain words like free, etc.. So I'm not sure why he is stuck on his opinion.
TNT369
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I agree with your opinion.
I also want to get income from OGads.
But I have no promotion experience, but I have resources
I can provide Google grant account + Google agent account + budget
Can I get your guidance or let's work together?
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To be honest, I'm super busy these days with business. But you can use Push ads for CPA offers, it still works. And for free traffic, youtube still works. You might face vids being removed but if you can find a way to make your vid stay up. You can make some decent money
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I make good money already and just scaling, so there isn't much I can gain from partnering with anyone. I can give you ideas and advice, when I'm free. That's the most I can do.
TNT369
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Thank you very much
BNB
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No I don't promote for last 6 months. I was well aware I am a scammer the entire time, 10 years. I'm just into better businesses now.
Here, I will tell you.
CPA PIN CC are scams, if they weren't, all CPA networks would have much richer offers, and they would never change their offers.
Try to track for how long any offer sticks. Advertisers and networks are getting money, along you. They do not provide for your customers.
If you can't understand that, well, live your life in your own world. If that's gonna help, good for you.
So why they say such things? Are you asking yourself the right questions?
Guys, I'm done here. Good luck.