Clickbank is kidding me.

[traged]

Now i am not sure if to work with CB or not. Can someone confirm what penaakul is saying about his "shaving test"? My case now is similar - everything was fine from start, but now - with same traffic and same amount of hops/order form impressions - i just have no sales

 

[goldeuro73]

May be I know whats going on there, Click Bank is Fair & not shaving any sales
unless fraud or some thing like this.

the issue here is due to some moron advertisers whom their sale pages ask the
visitors to clean all the cookies before order and so keep all the commissions ..!!

Thats true seen this many times and I think they should be reported I mean
Seriously where should I send my leads if they ask the leads to clear cookies ???

some one answer me where ?

 

[jay101]

Yeah, well for me it's nothing like that at all. There's nothing asking to clear cookies.

Either there is something seriously fouled up right now with their tracking or just plain ole "bad economy" shaving.

Funny how this all started going down, then the announcement of data messing up, but didn't affect sales, only hop data etc.

What a nice way to cover your arse clickbank.

Seriously, same targeted traffic, hitting all the right buttons as proved by testing, same clickthrough rate, same message, all same.

No sales.

C'mon clickbank.

 

[traged]

This is making me angry Can someone test if Clickbank is stealing our money? Can someone ask his friend to buy something through his CB hoplink and see if the sale will be counted?

I still dont have any single sell for 12 days...

 

[douce22]

i have ben promoting a product with a KILLER sales page . i have 20 clicks last week and no commission . haha im no fool . and I almost payed for the product when i was just looking to promote it ! haha

dose any one know where i can find similar products that are on click bank some whares else ?

u can get at me threw e mail ate [email protected]

 

[myapps43]

Do some advertisers really ask the customer to clear cookies? If so the vendor is stealing affiliate commissons. I'm have the same problem:Lots of order form impressions but 0 sales

 

[myapps43]

I even have a case where my order form impressions were higher than my hop count sfor 1 product! Also I use a tracker url associated with my hoplinks and the hit difference with what my tracker url vis a vis the clickbank hops is HUGE. Can someone respond?????

 

[goldeuro73]

Vince Delmonte for Body building site asks the visitors this :

if you want bonus then follow steps and clear cookies you can search and you you will find it yourself just type : vince delmonte body building.

 

[Tantalus]

Has it occurred to anyone to report them to the authorities? Clickbank is a US company. If they are committing fraud and you guys have proof then call the FTC or even just your local sherriff and tell them you're getting ripped off.

I can't believe that they're committing such massive criminal fraud and nobody is reporting it.. if they're guilty an investigation and subsequent series of convictions is definitely in order.

Unless what's actually happening is that a lot of people are not creating or maintainting their competitive edge, and are looking for someone to blame for their lack of success..... just saying...

 

[IcedCube]

You CAN'T, and I'll repeat this, you CAN'T prove fraud, apparent as it may be. There are no regulations for such practices in the virtual world, because NO ONE has access to THEIR tracking systems.

There are a million things ClickBank's attorneys can blame a conversion drop on.

If they ARE shaving, just drop them -- it will cost you tons of money, but as they say: sometimes you have to know when to cut your losses. Better lose it now than when you can no longer afford the loss.

 

[richjerkoff]

Vince Delmonte for Body building site asks the visitors this :

if you want bonus then follow steps and clear cookies you can search and you you will find it yourself just type : vince delmonte body building.

FYI this is not the vendors site, just an affiliate of his. The site owner even puts this on the bottom of the page

(This is not a Vince Delmonte website. Website is owned by Nick Doyle)

 

[GoldNotes]

got a couple of sales today.
don't think clickbank shaves

 

[richjerkoff]

got a couple of sales today.
don't think clickbank shaves

Same here but I still have my doubts after reading what CPA networks get up to. What seems strange to me is that I sometimes get multiple sales of the same product on the same day and then go weeks without any more sales for that product.

It seems that sales for a particular product come in clusters which doesn't seem natural to me as they are not a seasonal-type product. I don' t do anything to create this situation it just happens.

It's almost as if they are throwing me a bone to keep me quiet.

 

[Tantalus]

There are no regulations for such practices in the virtual world, because NO ONE has access to THEIR tracking systems.

This is complete bullshit. A contract is a contract, and if they're violating the terms they are breaking the law. You don't need special 'virtual world' laws to cover fraud in any business dealings. As for access to the tracking systems, if the feds want it, they'll get it, right now, at gunpoint if need be.

Don't tell me you really think CB is allowed to commit criminal fraud and nobody can do anything about it.. LOL!

 

[maxmymoney]

Most of you guys are just crap ass marketers and don't have any idea what you are doing. I had a $1,434 day last month, my highest grossing day.

Over 4500 Hits to my landing page,
2750 hops to clickbank merchants page,
Order form Impressions 184 or 6.6% ,
59 Sales.

All SE broad traffic endless roi not accounting for the many man hours put in to my site.

That is 1.31% conversion rate from my landing page
2.14% conversion rate of merchants page.

Nothing epic here. This is broad traffic so of course the order form impressions would be low but 32% of the order form impression resulted in a sale.

Also had 64 order submits, only 59 sales recorded. Some people would say this is shaving. Most likely the loss in orders were credit card denials or insufficient funds for 5 orders.

Clickbank isn't shaving. You just suck, get better

Same here but I still have my doubts after reading what CPA networks get up to. What seems strange to me is that I sometimes get multiple sales of the same product on the same day and then go weeks without any more sales for that product.

It seems that sales for a particular product come in clusters which doesn't seem natural to me as they are not a seasonal-type product. I don' t do anything to create this situation it just happens.

It's almost as if they are throwing me a bone to keep me quiet.

Some times spurts in sales are because of the time of the month. Most sales I get are the first week of the month and the 3rd. The 1st and the 15th alot of people deposit their pay checks. Lot of people only buy shit when they get paid. .

 

[goldeuro73]

Most of you guys are just crap ass marketers and don't have any idea what you are doing. I had a $1,434 day last month, my highest grossing day.

Over 4500 Hits to my landing page,
2750 hops to clickbank merchants page,
Order form Impressions 184 or 6.6% ,
59 Sales.

All SE broad traffic endless roi not accounting for the many man hours put in to my site.

That is 1.31% conversion rate from my landing page
2.14% conversion rate of merchants page.

Nothing epic here. This is broad traffic so of course the order form impressions would be low but 32% of the order form impression resulted in a sale.

Also had 64 order submits, only 59 sales recorded. Some people would say this is shaving. Most likely the loss in orders were credit card denials or insufficient funds for 5 orders.

Clickbank isn't shaving. You just suck, get better

Awesome .. Logic .. & very Professional

away away from the guess .... RESPECT :withstupi

what about your fellow dairy farmer here

would you like to share 2 or 3 tips :

whats this product - whats your traffic paid or ... ?

 

[albaniax]

I also just can say, that I always get my sales on CB, and my conversation rate is not that bad at all. I promote mostly 2 products, but they are the same.

It's just that sometimes you have about 10 sales a week, sometimes maybe only 1 at all.

That's how it works when it comes down to selling a product ( Ebook ) most of the time.

Otherwise i can agree 100% to what MayMyMoney said.

 

[irishandproud]

Here is what is happening. The Vendor is sending those people to an opt in page. Then he sends them an email with HIS link on it, and you get fucked. Clickbank always pays, just sell products from a Vendor that has no Opt-In.

 

[maxmymoney]

Awesome .. Logic .. & very Professional

away away from the guess .... RESPECT :withstupi

what about your fellow dairy farmer here

would you like to share 2 or 3 tips :

whats this product - whats your traffic paid or ... ?

Target Relevant keywords with a shit load of traffic.

Send that traffic to a candid presales letter.

Even used a free site.

 

[peter2002]

Here is what is happening. The Vendor is sending those people to an opt in page. Then he sends them an email with HIS link on it, and you get fucked. Clickbank always pays, just sell products from a Vendor that has no Opt-In.

Yes, that happens a lot. I personally don't promote such offers, or, if it's really good, I clone the vendor's website and get rid of everything "opt-in" related stuff. I also always delete the link to their affiliate program. Because this is also a factor why you don't see sales in some cases.