Way to accept money transfer anonymously?

[tbsweet52]

Hello BHW,

Quick question.I know this sounds sketchy, but in this internet world we live in one of the last things I want to do is give a 'stranger' I meet on the internet my personal details. Is there anyway to accept a money transfer (bank wire or something) anonymously (besides paypal)?

Any advice?

Tom

 

[elpadrino23]

You can try Alertpay or Moneybookers

 

[neuromancerx]

Get an anonymous reloadable Visa from somewhere, then get a Liqpay account using sms forwarding or an anonymous PPD cellphone.

Take Visa/MC for payment, convert the Liqpay into either anonymous e-currency like LR/WMZ or have Liqpay pay out your anon visa debit card. Perfect Money allows 3rd parties to wire to your account, same with Strict Pay I think (SP comes with electron atm card)

Or just have your customers go to buywmz.com, and then they send you the WMZ 'paymer check' codes. You turn around and give those codes to an exchanger who will pay you out, or dump them into your webmoney account and directly wire out

Or setup a Belize IBC with nominee director, comes with corporate bank accounts under the company name. 100% anonymous if you're willing to pay $1k to set it up

 

[tbsweet52]

Thanks I'll have to check it out !

 

[neuromancerx]

for awhile I accepted payments by customers buying Ikobo cards. I bought 1 card, and cloned it into a database. customers buy an Ikobo card, and mail it to themselves, or through a mail forwarding relay back to themselves.

they gave me the card information after funding, and i'd just edit the Ikobo cloned card tracks I already had with their info, then go withdraw from ATM after writing it to a rewritable mag strip card.

this method doesn't work when you start making a ton of money, you can't be standing in front of an ATM with 6 cards withdrawing money without being noticed. also if cops ever see a bunch of card cloning equipment, they will immediately assume you're doing fraud or scams instead of just taking anonymous payments so I got rid of it all and founded a Belize IBC. i think mere possession of cloning equipment is a crime now in my country which is bullshit. not everybody is doing blatant fraud with them

 

[savvypro]

for awhile I accepted payments by customers buying Ikobo cards. I bought 1 card, and cloned it into a database. customers buy an Ikobo card, and mail it to themselves, or through a mail forwarding relay back to themselves.

they gave me the card information after funding, and i'd just edit the Ikobo cloned card tracks I already had with their info, then go withdraw from ATM after writing it to a rewritable mag strip card.

this method doesn't work when you start making a ton of money, you can't be standing in front of an ATM with 6 cards withdrawing money without being noticed. also if cops ever see a bunch of card cloning equipment, they will immediately assume you're doing fraud or scams instead of just taking anonymous payments so I got rid of it all and founded a Belize IBC. i think mere possession of cloning equipment is a crime now in my country which is bullshit. not everybody is doing blatant fraud with them

Would you mind sharing (by PM) who you used to setup the IBC.

Thanks.

 

[bhedbri]

LibertyReserve.com or Solidtrustpay.com will work. Check out http://Talkgold.com for all sorts of ecurrencies that are anonymous.

 

[neuromancerx]

PM'd. the guy I set it up with doesn't do Belize IBC's anymore but a Seychelles IBC costs almost the same, and has same anonymous protection. You can also search for Delaware LLC's, and they're usually only $400 to set up, $180 a yr maintenance/fees.

IBC's work best when you use an anonymous debit card to withdraw money, instead of the ATM cards that come with the accounts (since the anon debit cards don't have direct account info/names printed on them) and tax authorities can't trace the money back to you, although there's no way Seychelles or Belize will give up any corporate information unless there's proof you're a terrorist or something.

Since I'm super paranoid, I cloned my offshore ATM cards to look like regular throwaway prepaid gift visas, library and grocery store points cards, so if my wallet is somehow searched or stolen there's not an obvious offshore Visa electron in there from Azerbaijan or Cyprus or wherever

 

[superman100]

Western Union

 

[neuromancerx]

WU is the most unsafe method for money transactions unless you're in the third world somewhere and know the agent working at the store (or can bribe him/her).

When the DEA busted Marc Emery for shipping seeds, they did so because he received a western union payment on camera, sent by a DEA agent. As soon as Emery said the code word to receive funds on camera they just picked him up.

This is a copy of the 'DEA scam letter' they used to entrap customers of Emery seeds. Notice how they want you to wire only through WU or Money Gram (traceable payments/full security cameras) http://anonym.to/?http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4483-FakeSpam.jpg

Full story here: http://anonym.to/?http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4483.html

The most anonymous payment methods are simply cash in the mail, with nothing in the envelope indicating what you are buying. This is what online pharmacies shipping 'specialty' extreme high risk items do and fake ID/passport providers. If the PO box is raided, law enforcement can't do anything with anonymous cash or money orders with the pay-to name blank. Hopefully you're smart enough and have an anonymous office somewhere (pay rent in cash) to do all your business, so if the address matching the PO box rental is raided there's nothing to find.

 

[jb007uk]

Neuromancerx you certainly seem to be on the case!

Rgds - J

 

[face2]

Hello BHW,

Quick question.I know this sounds sketchy, but in this internet world we live in one of the last things I want to do is give a 'stranger' I meet on the internet my personal details. Is there anyway to accept a money transfer (bank wire or something) anonymously (besides paypal)?

Any advice?

Tom

You let your customers go to buywmz, and then they send you the WMZ 'paymer check' codes. You turn around and give those codes to an exchanger who will pay you out, or dump them into your webmoney account and directly wire out.. Easy and safe way i can think off ok

Monga

 

[sfidirectory]

Download Tor and use bitcoins... I downloaded Tor a while ago and came across the hidden wiki that tells you about bitcoins and how to get them. They can be converted into cash/PayPal. If you do a Google search you'll find more about them...

 

[deekay619]

Western union is unsafe depending on the type of transfer you're doing. There's this "distress" transfer where you claim that you lost your ID documents and need help cash from outside. This way they won't ask you for ID, you only need to provide the MTCN and a password that the sender entered.

 

[hijacked0034]

Western union is unsafe depending on the type of transfer you're doing. There's this "distress" transfer where you claim that you lost your ID documents and need help cash from outside. This way they won't ask you for ID, you only need to provide the MTCN and a password that the sender entered.

This only works for small transactions. Under $300 I believe.

 

[Worseelite]

Easy use Bitcoins and localbitcoins to get them cash p2p.

 

[LostLife]

Easy use Bitcoins and localbitcoins to get them cash p2p.

Man...It is 7 years old thread. Please check thread creation time before posting.

 

[Worseelite]

Sorry I didn't loook at that just was shocked that so many didn't say bitcoins. Sorry for necro!