Ideas to turn emulators into real phones

[osa60]

Now i'm new to instagram automation. but with the help of SocialMediaNetwork who generously gave me the steps to phone automation. i started reading more about it and found out that it performs incredibly well on real phones but not as much on emulators. now everyone wants to have multiple accounts running automatically for growth (forgive me for the phrasing I'm 5hrs behind my sleeping schedule). so i searched up a little and came across a thread from kelturon about the same subject. and someone talked about making the emulators undetected. so i gathered some ideas of how someone can achieve that (haven't read them all) from bing ai and chatgpt. i don't think these ideas would work, but I believe it would be an interesting read to some.

First off bing chatbot ideas summarized:

• Modify the app and remove the emulator check: This involves modifying the app's code to remove the check for emulator detection. This may require advanced development skills and could violate the app's license agreement.
• Modify the emulator so that it pretends to be a real device: This involves changing the emulator's properties to make it appear like a real device. This may require advanced technical skills and may not work for all apps.
• Modify the system calls the app does for detecting it is running on an emulator: This involves using the XPosed framework to modify system calls made by the app to detect if it is running on an emulator. There are some existing XPosed modules available for this purpose.
• Install the XPosed framework onto your emulator: This involves installing the XPosed framework onto the emulator and using it to modify system calls made by the app to detect if it is running on an emulator.
• Update the emulator in Android Studio to the latest stable version of Android platform: This involves updating the emulator in Android Studio to the latest stable version of the Android platform. Alternatively, if you don't need any apps that use the Vulkan graphics library, you can turn off Vulkan by launching the emulator from the command line with the flag -feature -Vulkan.
• Use a tool like apktool to decompile the app and remove the emulator check: This involves using a tool like apktool to decompile the app's code and remove the emulator check. This requires advanced development skills and could violate the app's license agreement.
• Use a virtual machine like Android-x86 or Virtualbox to run the app on a simulated device: This involves using a virtual machine to run the app on a simulated device. However, this may not be compatible with some apps or features.
• Use a tool like Magisk to root your emulator and hide the root status from apps: This involves using a tool like Magisk to root your emulator and hide the root status from apps. Magisk also has some modules that can spoof device properties and bypass emulator checks.
• Use a tool like Frida to hook into the app's code and modify its behavior at runtime: This involves using a tool like Frida to modify the app's behavior at runtime. Frida can also intercept system calls and manipulate their results.
• Use a tool like LDPlayer or NoxPlayer that are designed to run Android games on PC: This involves using an emulator tool that is designed to run Android games on PC. These tools may have some features that can avoid emulator detection by apps.
• Use a tool like Device ID Masker to spoof your device's identity and properties: This involves using a tool like Device ID Masker to spoof your device's identity and properties. Device ID Masker can change various parameters such as device model, manufacturer, brand, serial number, IMEI, etc. that apps may use to identify your device.
• Use a tool like VMOS that is a virtual machine app that can run another Android system on your device: This involves using a tool like VMOS that creates a sandbox environment to isolate the app from the emulator and allows you to run it as if it was on a real device.

Now chatgbt:

• Change the device profile: Emulators typically have distinct profiles that can be easily detected by apps. You can try changing the device profile to make the emulator look more like a real device. This can be done by creating a custom device profile or selecting a popular device model from the list of available profiles.
• Use a different operating system: Some apps detect emulators by looking at the operating system. You can try using a different version of Android or a custom ROM to make the emulator less detectable.
• Use a VPN: Some apps may also detect emulators by looking at the IP address. You can try using a VPN to mask the IP address and make the emulator appear more like a real device.
• Modify build.prop file: This file contains various system settings and can be modified to change the device properties. You can try changing the device model, manufacturer, or other properties to make the emulator look more like a real device.
• Root the emulator: Rooting the emulator can give you more control over the device and allow you to modify system files and settings to make it appear more like a real device. However, this is a more advanced option and should be done with caution.
• Disable emulator detection: Some apps may have built-in checks to detect emulators. You can try disabling these checks by using Xposed Framework or a similar tool. This will require rooting the emulator.
• Change the IMEI number: The International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI) number is a unique identifier for mobile devices. Some apps may use this number to detect emulators. You can try changing the IMEI number to a valid one for a real device. This will also require rooting the emulator.
• Use real device hardware: If you have a spare Android device, you can use it as a basis for your emulator. You can create a system image of the device and use it to create a new emulator instance. This will make the emulator more like the real device in terms of hardware and software.
• Use a different emulator: If you are using the default emulator that comes with Android Studio, you can try using a different emulator such as Genymotion. Genymotion is a popular emulator that is known to be less detectable by apps.
• Use anti-detection tools: There are various tools available that claim to make emulators less detectable. These tools typically work by modifying system settings or spoofing device properties. However, you should use these tools with caution as they may have negative effects on the emulator's stability and performance.
• Use a different Google account: Some apps may detect emulators based on the Google account associated with the device. You can try using a different Google account that has been previously used on a real device.
• Use a different network: Some apps may detect emulators based on the network configuration. You can try using a different network, such as a mobile hotspot or a VPN, to make the emulator appear more like a real device.
• Use virtualization technology: Virtualization technology can help make an emulator more like a real device by virtualizing the hardware components. This can be done using tools such as VirtualBox or VMWare.
• Use a physical device emulator: Some tools, such as Samsung DeX or Huawei PC Mode, allow you to use a physical device as an emulator. This can make the emulator more like a real device in terms of hardware and software.
• Use a paid emulator service: There are paid emulator services, such as Firebase Test Lab or AWS Device Farm, that provide access to real devices for testing purposes. Using these services can help you avoid the need for an emulator altogether and make your testing more reliable.
• Modify device properties using ADB commands: You can modify various device properties, such as the device model, build version, and hardware features, using ADB (Android Debug Bridge) commands. This can make the emulator appear more like a real device. For example, you can use the "adb shell setprop" command to modify device properties.
• Use a custom kernel: The kernel is the core component of the Android operating system that manages the hardware and software resources of the device. You can try using a custom kernel that has been optimized for the emulator environment to make it more like a real device.
• Use a custom ROM: A custom ROM is a modified version of the Android operating system that can be installed on a device. You can try using a custom ROM that has been optimized for the emulator environment and includes features that are not available on the stock Android system.
• Use an emulator with hardware acceleration: Hardware acceleration can improve the performance and stability of the emulator by offloading the processing to the host computer's hardware. You can try using an emulator with hardware acceleration enabled, such as the Intel HAXM or AMD Ryzen emulator.
• Use a custom script: You can write a custom script that automatically modifies various device properties, such as the build.prop file and the device properties, to make the emulator appear more like a real device. This can help save time and streamline the testing process.
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• Mimic user behavior: Some apps may detect emulators based on the lack of user behavior. You can try mimicking user behavior, such as tapping on the screen, swiping, and interacting with the app, to make the emulator appear more like a real device.
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• Use a real device for initial setup: Some apps may detect emulators based on the initial setup process, such as creating a new Google account or setting up the device's location. You can try using a real device for the initial setup and then use the same Google account and settings on the emulator.
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• Use an emulator with a physical camera: Some apps may detect emulators based on the lack of a physical camera. You can try using an emulator that has a physical camera, such as the Genymotion emulator with the Webcam emulation option enabled.
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• Use a modified APK: Some apps may detect emulators based on the package name or signature of the app. You can try modifying the APK file of the app, such as changing the package name or removing the signature, to make it appear more like a regular app.
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• Use a modified system image: You can modify the system image of the emulator to include additional features or system components that are not available on the default emulator. This can make the emulator appear more like a real device and provide additional testing capabilities.
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• Use a modified emulator: Some developers have created custom emulators that are designed to mimic real devices as closely as possible. These emulators may include features like custom device IDs, modified kernel configurations, and hardware acceleration. You can try using a modified emulator like this to help bypass app detection.
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• Change the emulator's screen size: Some apps may detect emulators based on the screen size of the device. You can try changing the screen size of the emulator to make it match the dimensions of a real device. This can be done by editing the emulator's AVD settings.
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• Install additional system apps: Some apps may detect emulators based on the lack of certain system apps or features. You can try installing additional system apps or features on the emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Modify the emulator's network settings: Some apps may detect emulators based on the network settings of the device. You can try modifying the emulator's network settings, such as changing the IP address or using a VPN, to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with root access: Some apps may detect emulators based on the lack of root access. You can try using an emulator with root access enabled to make it appear more like a real device. However, it's important to use root access responsibly and carefully, as it can potentially harm the stability and security of the emulator.
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• Change the device's fingerprint: An Android device has a unique fingerprint that can be used to identify it. You can try changing the emulator's fingerprint to match that of a real device. This can be done using an app like Xposed Framework or Magisk.
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• Use a VPN: Some apps may detect emulators based on the IP address of the device. You can try using a VPN to change the IP address of the emulator and make it appear more like a real device.
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• Disable emulator detection features: Some apps may have built-in features that are designed to detect emulators. You can try disabling these features using an app like XPrivacyLua or Cydia Substrate.
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• Use an older version of the app: Some apps may have updated their code to specifically detect emulators. You can try using an older version of the app that doesn't have these detection mechanisms in place.
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• Use an emulator with a different architecture: Some apps may detect emulators based on the architecture of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different architecture than the default emulator, such as ARM instead of x86.
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• Use a different Android version: Some apps may detect emulators based on the Android version of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different Android version than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different brand name: Some apps may detect emulators based on the brand name of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different brand name, such as Samsung or Sony, to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different build prop: The build.prop file contains information about the device's software and hardware configuration. You can try modifying the build.prop file of the emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a custom kernel: The kernel is the core of the Android operating system. You can try using an emulator with a custom kernel that is designed to mimic the behavior of a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a custom ROM: A custom ROM is a modified version of the Android operating system that is designed to provide additional features or customization options. You can try using an emulator with a custom ROM that is designed to mimic the behavior of a real device.
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• Use an emulator with different sensors: Some apps may detect emulators based on the presence or absence of certain sensors. You can try using an emulator with different sensor configurations to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different default language: Some apps may detect emulators based on the default language of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different default language than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different timezone: Some apps may detect emulators based on the timezone of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different timezone than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different system font: Some apps may detect emulators based on the system font of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different system font than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with different system sounds: Some apps may detect emulators based on the system sounds of the device. You can try using an emulator with different system sounds than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different screen resolution: Some apps may detect emulators based on the screen resolution of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different screen resolution than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with different DPI: Some apps may detect emulators based on the DPI of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different DPI than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different device name: Some apps may detect emulators based on the device name of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different device name than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with different installed apps: Some apps may detect emulators based on the installed apps on the device. You can try using an emulator with different apps installed than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with different system settings: Some apps may detect emulators based on the system settings of the device. You can try using an emulator with different system settings than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different network configuration: Some apps may detect emulators based on the network configuration of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different network configuration than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different MAC address: Some apps may detect emulators based on the MAC address of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different MAC address than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different Google Play Services version: Some apps may detect emulators based on the Google Play Services version of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different Google Play Services version than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different kernel version: Some apps may detect emulators based on the kernel version of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different kernel version than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different CPU architecture: Some apps may detect emulators based on the CPU architecture of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different CPU architecture than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different Android version: Some apps may detect emulators based on the Android version of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different Android version than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with different default apps: Some apps may detect emulators based on the default apps on the device. You can try using an emulator with different default apps than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different root status: Some apps may detect emulators based on the root status of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different root status than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different screen color profile: Some apps may detect emulators based on the screen color profile of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different screen color profile than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.
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• Use an emulator with a different device ID: Some apps may detect emulators based on the device ID of the device. You can try using an emulator with a different device ID than the default emulator to make it appear more like a real device.

 

[StickySpray]

I don't think this is helpful. Maybe you should do real research and figure out why these ideas don't already work, and the barriers that would need to be overcome to implement them. Looks like it might be a good start for you personally but kind of useless just to dump it all here.

 

[StyxYouGotMe]

This is a very long thread mate. We can't finish reading this with our free time

 

[kostya57]

Too much text. From my experience with automating an android emulator. Large networks like facebook instagram don't need so many things)
Of course, if you are not going to automate tiktok

 

[MKSKS]

From what I know these emulators consume a lot of cpu resources.
So, it would be better to buy cheap devices from 2nd hand or scrap market and use them instead.
This used to work nicely post the massplanner's death era.
These devices can also be automated by someone in embedded electronics and software stuff.
Running the accounts on multiple devices fixed on a wooden dashboard connected to laptops/pcs/pi devices is something people still do.

 

[Myran]

Tl;Dr : get a used phone for cheap rather than wasting time with emulators

 

[AllOutAnime]

Emulators are not worth it. There once was a small company with 4 full time employees dedicated to this.
They developed 3 years to create a „stealth emulator“. It worked for 6 months and then Instagram detected it.
As a result they gave up on it.

 

[Naroha]

What software for phone automation do you use/prefer?

 

[yellowcat]

personally i just assume all phone emulators have footprints that can be detected.
Creating a full stealth phone emulator seems like something nearly impossible to make, especially one you release to the public.

 

[terrycody]

From what I know these emulators consume a lot of cpu resources.
So, it would be better to buy cheap devices from 2nd hand or scrap market and use them instead.
This used to work nicely post the massplanner's death era.
These devices can also be automated by someone in embedded electronics and software stuff.
Running the accounts on multiple devices fixed on a wooden dashboard connected to laptops/pcs/pi devices is something people still do.

Much easier to use your phone rather than emulators

At this stage one must know how to coding to automate the real android phones right? I heard before people use something called Android Debug Bridge?

 

[duke1921]

At this stage one must know how to coding to automate the real android phones right? I heard before people use something called Android Debug Bridge?

Not necessarily, as there are already built solutions present for this as well.

 

[AllOutAnime]

At this stage one must know how to coding to automate the real android phones right? I heard before people use something called Android Debug Bridge?

everybody uses Appium for this

 

[osa60]

This is a very long thread mate. We can't finish reading this with our free time

Yeah

Too much text. From my experience with automating an android emulator. Large networks like facebook instagram don't need so many things)
Of course, if you are not going to automate tiktok

So many things like what? No tiktok is the final boss of the game

From what I know these emulators consume a lot of cpu resources.
So, it would be better to buy cheap devices from 2nd hand or scrap market and use them instead.
This used to work nicely post the massplanner's death era.
These devices can also be automated by someone in embedded electronics and software stuff.
Running the accounts on multiple devices fixed on a wooden dashboard connected to laptops/pcs/pi devices is something people still do.

Like click farms and such. Thanks for the reply

Much easier to use your phone rather than emulators

It seems so

Tl;Dr : get a used phone for cheap rather than wasting time with emulators

Yeah guess farewell mass automation through multiple accounts.

Emulators are not worth it. There once was a small company with 4 full time employees dedicated to this.
They developed 3 years to create a „stealth emulator“. It worked for 6 months and then Instagram detected it.
As a result they gave up on it.

That's tragic.

What software for phone automation do you use/prefer?

Everyone is using appium and some using adb from what i understand.

personally i just assume all phone emulators have footprints that can be detected.
Creating a full stealth phone emulator seems like something nearly impossible to make, especially one you release to the public.

Big companies are always on the look out. But from what you're saying there must be some people that have done it privately.


Now if we gonna use lot's of second hand phones. We would need to change all their device id. And do proxies have a role to make this go longterm? Or just using sims with 4g data plan? Or there are other alternatives?

 

[terrycody]

everybody uses Appium for this

Everyone is using appium and some using adb from what i understand.

Thanks guys, I will check this thing.

 

[kelturon]

Good job. My 50 cents would be to follow the money.

 

[Bots-Scrapers]

What software for phone automation do you use/prefer?

You have to build your own, pretty easy to control if you have emulator modification technique right.

 

[borke]

Did you make it?

 

[hussainmdtanvi]

great great great information.this info really help me a lot

 

[SEOProMindset]

Best thing you can do is start your own Phone Farm, if you have a budget you can buy smartphones for as low as 80$ a piece

 

[fralaco]

Best thing you can do is start your own Phone Farm, if you have a budget you can buy smartphones for as low as 80$ a piece

for sure you can get much lower prices, depending on where you based and hows the 2nd hand market there...