Dispute: @kevrius v. @RankOn

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How can you know which of the two services OP bought was dropping?

If I sell you 100 plays and another guy sells you another 100, you got 200 plays. One day later you see only 150 plays, whose plays dropped?

The seller messed up the way he presented his case and the fact that he didn't respond to claims for 2 months. If he did, he might have a stronger case here. It's impossible to prove that your service is good if everybody's complaining.
Yeah, that is a calculated business risk you take if you offer 100% non-drops.
 
Everyone should know the truth and i don't need to bloody scam people for living
You are not making a good case for what you describe as the truth, either.
You need to understand that customer service is as important as the quality of the service.

Yeah, that is a calculated business risk you take if you offer 100% non-drops.
Couldn't agree more.
 
You went wrong when you said 100% non-drop. That's where you messed up. If I were you I would have just refunded.
 
The accused should pay for his exaggeration & play on people's trust.
The claimer is clear not naive as he described himself, no.
The one how make money on the given trust is whom to blame. He deserves this shit list.
 
This is what I got instead of the refund:

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Childish revenge, the only thing he wanted to tell me.

Now we're all 100% sure he's never gonna refund. Even though he got official order from Mods.

Let's sum up what didn't work on him til now:
- Asking kindly multipe times
- Offering to accept just 50% refund
- Official injuction from Moderators
- Multiple Jr. VIP's and BHW users agreeing he's obliged to do it

He doesn't listen to anything and anybody. What do you guys propose to do now?

@AlwaysAlan and Mod team - As the decision is made but seller still clearly refuses to obey your order and refund - Are you able to provide further support and help me succesfully execute my funds back? I realy tried everything to solve it in a good faith as everyone can see above and on my screens. But for him I wasn't even worth OPENING the message and read. Til he get banned.

Thank you all for understanding how frustrating and inconvenient this whole situation was for me and all your good wishes.
 
This is what I got instead of the refund:

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Childish revenge, the only thing he wanted to tell me.

Now we're all 100% sure he's never gonna refund. Even though he got official order from Mods.

Let's sum up what didn't work on him til now:
- Asking kindly multipe times
- Offering to accept just 50% refund
- Official injuction from Moderators
- Multiple Jr. VIP's and BHW users agreeing he's obliged to do it

He doesn't listen to anything and anybody. What do you guys propose to do now?

@AlwaysAlan and Mod team - As the decision is made but seller still clearly refuses to obey your order and refund - Are you able to provide further support and help me succesfully execute my funds back? I realy tried everything to solve it in a good faith as everyone can see above and on my screens. But for him I wasn't even worth OPENING the message and read. Til he get banned.

Thank you all for understanding how frustrating and inconvenient this whole situation was for me and all your good wishes.
Nothing we can do as to getting your funds back at this time.

The person is a bad actor as he not only pulled that on you but had multiple accounts to game the forum.

I'm sure his parents are proud of him.
 
Nothing we can do as to getting your funds back at this time.

I see... Too bad but thanks for clarifying. To the users - if anything pops on your mind and you'd like to share your ideas I'll be very glad to listen.

The person is a bad actor as he not only pulled that on you but had multiple accounts to game the forum.

I was disgusted reading what he did under this thread today. I'm also afraid this might've not been his only other account on the forum. I know BHW is his only hunting ground so he won't let it go that easy. If I can have one last request to the Mods and Admins - please pay attention if his IP or other details leading to him are not appearing on the log-ins or new registered users.

Just to note, I'm not vengeful. I hope those steps may finally let him realize what he did and that the only way to get back on the forum would be to make up for his mistakes, refund and change work ethics. If he still wants to do any business with other people. But yet, even though I'd want to believe, I'm not sure if such people are welcomed in our community. Not thinking about myself only, the other goal of my whole post was to raise the awareness between other users, learn from my mistakes and simply to save at least few of them from coming into business with this scammer.

Hope you'll all stay safe guys!
 
This is what I got instead of the refund:

View attachment 242441

Childish revenge, the only thing he wanted to tell me.

Now we're all 100% sure he's never gonna refund. Even though he got official order from Mods.

Let's sum up what didn't work on him til now:
- Asking kindly multipe times
- Offering to accept just 50% refund
- Official injuction from Moderators
- Multiple Jr. VIP's and BHW users agreeing he's obliged to do it

He doesn't listen to anything and anybody. What do you guys propose to do now?

@AlwaysAlan and Mod team - As the decision is made but seller still clearly refuses to obey your order and refund - Are you able to provide further support and help me succesfully execute my funds back? I realy tried everything to solve it in a good faith as everyone can see above and on my screens. But for him I wasn't even worth OPENING the message and read. Til he get banned.

Thank you all for understanding how frustrating and inconvenient this whole situation was for me and all your good wishes.
This is the type of person we don't want on our forum.
 
He's not done yet and he started digging his own grave now. Look at this:

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As this is his second threat and this time aimed in other people to hurt me, I decided to take serious steps against him because he'll simply never learn. No more waiting for repentance, no more hoping for redemption, no more chances. Time to pay, but this time for real.

I wasn't touched by his first threat as those playlists were simply not used for business (they only had to look big and shiny lol) but now he did the worst thing - He will be disturbing innocent people that actually never been involved into this shit.

Thought I won't need to waste more time on him but after both of the threats (especially that one attacking artists) I will do a very deep research finding his customers and potential customers to tell them about the truth and make sure they will never order anything from him.

Of course that won't be enough. He chose war instead of paying for his mistakes so there will be no regrets.

I gently warned him many days ago about the exact steps I will take against him. He IGNORED all the messages not even trying to see what I wrote showering me by his golden rain.

If kindness and good will was pissed on by him, then it's a necessary justice. I already hired a specialized crypto scam hunters, will report the transactions to Binance and Coinbase and also contact Europol (European Union association that deals with crypto scams and actually do it effective) that will get his real ID and there's a high chance he will be forced to give back this money.

Hope none of you will think bad of me because I tried to do everything to solve this in a good faith. What I'm getting is a new threat everyday which must finally end before this guy will do something that will trigger EVEN WORSE consequences on him. I really don't want to hurt anyone, even a thief and scammer. But if the things will go too far, you'll understand I'll have no choice.


All of this above will start right after this weekend and then couldn't be reverted. I won't let him get away with this even if legal steps will need to be taken.
If he wants to stop this, he has 2 days now to refund me whole sum on my crypto address that I sent him on skype in my last message.



And please, someone tell this retard if he will ask again "how did I scam you" to deeply check my 1st 2 posts twice and spell each word until he won't get it. I'm really done.

I'm sure his parents are proud of him.

Seems that soon we'll have a chance to ask them...
 
And please, someone tell this retard if he will ask again "how did I scam you" to deeply check my 1st 2 posts twice and spell each word until he won't get it. I'm really done.
He behaves like an idiot, but it looks like he genuinely believes that his plays were not the ones that dropped.
 
@roydan, you keep mistaking "plays" with followers. Totally different things and they're also differently measurable. Followers are easy to spot as there are many statistic tools from Spotify plus I also have my own paid ones. So everything was precisely supervised and there's no chance of mistake. Plus simply, it's just a math: 1-1=0. Like here:

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He behaves like an idiot, but it looks like he genuinely believes that his plays were not the ones that dropped.

No no, HE KNOWS that there were his drops and even confirmed it many times. I'm not sure if you fully read my main post with evidencies and screens where he confirmed that so to not post the screens again, just hop to the main thread and you'll find it: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/dispute-kevrius-v-rankon.1472836/

Also the massive proofs like stat screen above can't be denied in any possible way... He had to be blind to keep saying his followers didn't drop...

He has zero arguments, knows he f#cked up completely so the only thing he can do is to repeat bs like "not my followers dropped" even though only his were there to drop...



Time left to avoid consequences mentioned earlier is 18 hours since now. If there will be no refund til then, we're moving on with a hard scenario.



Really tried to avoid it.
 
@roydan, you keep mistaking "plays" with followers. Totally different things and they're also differently measurable. Followers are easy to spot as there are many statistic tools from Spotify plus I also have my own paid ones. So everything was precisely supervised and there's no chance of mistake. Plus simply, it's just a math: 1-1=0. Like here:

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No no, HE KNOWS that there were his drops and even confirmed it many times. I'm not sure if you fully read my main post with evidencies and screens where he confirmed that so to not post the screens again, just hop to the main thread and you'll find it: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/dispute-kevrius-v-rankon.1472836/

Also the massive proofs like stat screen above can't be denied in any possible way... He had to be blind to keep saying his followers didn't drop...

He has zero arguments, knows he f#cked up completely so the only thing he can do is to repeat bs like "not my followers dropped" even though only his were there to drop...



Time left to avoid consequences mentioned earlier is 18 hours since now. If there will be no refund til then, we're moving on with a hard scenario.



Really tried to avoid it.
I appreciate the time you took to explain it, I guess I got lost somewhere along the way.
 
kevirus, it's a shame you got scammed by rankon. but you're also scamming artists, selling spots for your spotify playlists that are actually fake followers.
man you're playing with musicians, people who make art. you're everything that's wrong in this world.

and don't say i'm speculating, I managed to catch the playlist info before it was deleted with your website etc. so I know exactly what you're doing.
playing with musician's hopes.. I don't know how far I can go with my words in this forum before I get banned, but I don't want good things to happen to you.
 
kevirus, it's a shame you got scammed by rankon. but you're also scamming artists, selling spots for your spotify playlists that are actually fake followers.
man you're playing with musicians, people who make art. you're everything that's wrong in this world.

and don't say i'm speculating, I managed to catch the playlist info before it was deleted with your website etc. so I know exactly what you're doing.
playing with musician's hopes.. I don't know how far I can go with my words in this forum before I get banned, but I don't want good things to happen to you.
He is not violating the terms of service here.

You though, are with those comments.

If you have been scammed by @kervirus open a Dispute Resolution thread.

Otherwise, dial it back.
 
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