Blackhat email marketing advice?

[Amaz0n]

When you are warming up, your emails are being opened and marked as important as being replied to, so this helps to combat a few people not opening your emails or maybe marking it as spam. So your reputation will not die if you are always warming up, so I'm lost as to what you mean by your reputation will be dead.

My software actually also replies to the emails.

It could be a difference of what amount we are talking about. I am in the huge category. So nevermind about the confusion.

Why?

Reputation.

 

[Algo]

You didn't get it and it is highly likely you are just sharing your theory without having practical experience.

Again, Spam Traps are actively clicking on the links in your email. And while they are clicking, your hosts get a notification that you spammed and bans your domains. Also, people report it even if they have clicked.

The first servers are used for segmenting and cleaning, you can use links to send something related to your niche (random blog post) to only segment by clickers.

When you get your active list then you can send your real offers from your domains from other clean SMTP servers, or before sending your real offer make them double opt-in.

There are many strategies, it depends on what you're marketing.

You didn't understand the point, so anyway I'll stop replying to your comments.

 

[Amaz0n]

You didn't understand the point, so anyway I'll stop replying to your comments.

You're talking about separating "openers" in to a "clean list" and I tell you that spam traps are also opening your links but you are just stubborn because you have no clue about the topic so it's better that I don't have to continue to discuss with you.

 

[Deleted member 1501362]

My software actually also replies to the emails.

It could be a difference of what amount we are talking about. I am in the huge category. So nevermind about the confusion.

Ohh you are using your own software to warm up. But yeah you might be sending out more emails than me which is why you concluded some of this stuff. But just to let you know, I don't spam emails. All my lists are built by myself and send people to my opt-in page.

 

[UncLe Spam]

I have a huge amount of email addresses (hundreds of thousands)

lol yeah that's real huge bro. That ain't

 

[Amaz0n]

Ohh you are using your own software to warm up. But yeah you might be sending out more emails than me which is why you concluded some of this stuff. But just to let you know, I don't spam emails. All my lists are built by myself and send people to my opt-in page.

Fair point. Ok, I am saying overrated because there are other things which are more important (not saying it isnt important, it has definitely a place in your whole setup). But back to the topic... its called "blackhat email marketing advice" with a leaked linkedin db. Regardless of whatever warming up he will do with that list, it won't matter because his reputation will be killed instantly and because it is full of spam traps and spam button clickers and his domain will be dead in minutes anyway because Spamhaus is boss (it even made BHW delete the email marketing forum).

 

[Deleted member 1501362]

Fair point. Ok, I am saying overrated because there are other things which are more important (not saying it isnt important, it has definitely a place in your whole setup). But back to the topic... its called "blackhat email marketing advice" with a leaked linkedin db. Regardless of whatever warming up he will do with that list, it won't matter because it is full of spam traps and spam button clickers and his domain will be dead in minutes anyway because Spamhaus is boss (it even made BHW delete the email marketing forum).

Yeah, with the way he is planning to go about stuff and that email list which is not his own, I think you are 100% right.

 

[UncLe Spam]

(it even made BHW delete the email marketing forum).

I believe Jr. VIP has this section it's hidden from everyone else so not deleted just hidden.

side note directed @All try webmailing hella less stress.

 

[Amaz0n]

I believe Jr. VIP has this section it's hidden from everyone else so not deleted just hidden.

Ok. Cannot remember all of the details but yes, Spamhaus forced it to be removed from public section with their typical blackmailing.

side note directed @All try webmailing hella less stress.

Oh yeah? If you mean the REAL webmailing not GmaiI "API" thing,... I tried Hotmail webmailing again last year... starting at $450 ONLY for the software, per month. Then the proxies, the constant SMS re-verifications, the captcha solving (isn't so bad though vs. the SMS) and then constantly creating new Hotmail accounts, again new SMS. Endless story of spending. At the end I stopped because I wasn't able to do quantity. I guess for a small high quality lead list its very good and I am definitely going to try it again with that Gmonster for sale at BHW but it is a bit limited in functionality and isn't a web mailer.

 

[Deleted member 1501362]

Oh yeah? If you mean the REAL webmailing not GmaiI "API" thing,... I tried Hotmail webmailing again last year... starting at $450 ONLY for the software, per month. Then the proxies, the constant SMS re-verifications, the captcha solving (isn't so bad though vs. the SMS) and then constantly creating new Hotmail accounts, again new SMS. Endless story of spending. At the end I stopped because I wasn't able to do quantity. I guess for a small high quality lead list its very good and I am definitely going to try it again with that Gmonster for sale at BHW but it is a bit limited in functionality and isn't a web mailer.

What can of email campaigns do you run, seems like you do it on a large scale. I run affiliate marketing campaigns with Clickbank and digital products and stuff.

 

[Amaz0n]

What can of email campaigns do you run, seems like you do it on a large scale. I run affiliate marketing campaigns with Clickbank and digital products and stuff.

My own physical products, think Blendjet clone.

 

[Deleted member 1501362]

My own physical products, think Blendjet clone.

Ohh, nice nice. I'm not the biggest fan of physical products but that's cool.

 

[UncLe Spam]

Oh yeah? If you mean the REAL webmailing not GmaiI "API" thing,... I tried Hotmail webmailing again last year... starting at $450 ONLY for the software, per month. Then the proxies, the constant SMS re-verifications, the captcha solving (isn't so bad though vs. the SMS) and then constantly creating new Hotmail accounts, again new SMS. Endless story of spending. At the end I stopped because I wasn't able to do quantity. I guess for a small high quality lead list its very good and I am definitely going to try it again with that Gmonster for sale at BHW but it is a bit limited in functionality and isn't a web mailer.

There is services out there where you don't have to PVA to create an account. Just captcha. OCRs for that.

 

[Amaz0n]

Ohh, nice nice. I'm not the biggest fan of physical products but that's cool.

I was doing the usual affiliate stuff for years as well but at one point you realize that the most valuable is actually having traffic and why not get 100% of the pay instead of working for somebody else.

There is services out there where you don't have to PVA to create an account. Just captcha. OCRs for that.

Too ambiguous, "some services", so all theory, no practical experience. So I doubt that story because the creation of the "non-PVA" works only by using these special bypassing tricks like android phone and you have to pay these "services" as well. And where is your webmailing software? Ah yeah, at the end it won't be stress free and doesn't work for quantity.

 

[UncLe Spam]

Too ambiguous, "some services", so all theory, no practical experience. So I doubt that story because the creation of the "non-PVA" works only by using these special bypassing tricks like android phone and you have to pay these "services" as well. And where is your webmailing software? Ah yeah, at the end it won't be stress free and doesn't work for quantity.

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Hitting spam because I'm drilling my seed box all day. Google sends it to spam on auto. If I wasn't hitting inbox some I wouldn't make money also people check the spam box.

 

[Amaz0n]

Hitting spam because I'm drilling my seed box all day. Google sends it to spam on auto. If I wasn't hitting inbox some I wouldn't make money also people check the spam box.

Ok, and you are saying it is Gmail Webmailer, not Gmass/Gmonster?

 

[UncLe Spam]

I'm not mailing with gmail I'm seeding to my gmail though.

Like I said you can create accounts without PVA they are out there. I'm not gonna spoonfeed what I'm doing or hand it over. It's out there though.

 

[Amaz0n]

I'm not mailing with gmail I'm seeding to my gmail though.

Like I said you can create accounts without PVA they are out there. I'm not gonna spoonfeed what I'm doing or hand it over. It's out there though.

You don't have to spoon feed me anything, it's just always sus if somebody says just "use some services" and other generic responses. You wanted to get a bit into discussion and proof that you aren't just randomly throwing generic stuff out. It hasn't really worked with me. Nevertheless, I understand the gatekeeping and I even wonder why I joined this discussion anyway.

If you are using one of the $500-600/m real webmailer softwares (currently 3 at the market as far as I know) then good for you that you got it working. If you dont pay this amount I dont believe you that you use a webmailer.

 

[UncLe Spam]

You can believe me or not I really don't care. I don't pay for mailers.

 

[Amaz0n]

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