How to confuse google?

[hadeaghal]

I want to open a gmail account and make it impossible for anyone to figure out this gmail is somehow associated with my main gmail. I am not doing anything nefarious, in fact, this gmail will never send or receive a single email. This is just about privacy.

This is my plan: I buy a used laptop and take it to a place that has wifi. I create a gmail account. for phone verification I get a used phone and once I get the code I throw away the phone. I am still undecided if the phone would be near me or far away from me when the code comes through, or if it makes a difference.

I close the browser. I don't turn off the laptop. I bring the laptop to my house.

When I first thought about this problem I thought google (or the govenrment, or whoever my adversary is) could see that the laptop that created this account is now at my house. but I am having trouble imagining how that's possible.

 

[xReminisce]

help me out here
struggling to understand the purpose of having a gmail account if you won't receiving or sending mail?
isn't it better to use a privacy-based solution instead?

 

[noellarkin]

You want to buy a laptop just to create a new google account? And a phone that you'll dispose of right after? What about the public coffeeshop wifi you'll use, I suppose you're going to burn it to the ground as well.

 

[hadeaghal]

help me out here
struggling to understand the purpose of having a gmail account if you won't receiving or sending mail?
isn't it better to use a privacy-based solution instead?

it needs to be gmail.

 

[hadeaghal]

You want to buy a laptop just to create a new google account? And a phone that you'll dispose of right after? What about the public coffeeshop wifi you'll use, I suppose you're going to burn it to the ground as well.

coffeeshop wifi, security cameras, and facial recognition are not a concern.

 

[xReminisce]

it needs to be gmail.

then maybe, a used de-googled android phone
however, unless you re-route your home internet through layers of proxies, which still a chance of leaking, yet at the same time, they still know you "visited gmail.com", thus there footprints that can still potentially be traced back to you.
ISP sees alot more than you would think & vpns/proxies don't hide as much as you would like their customers to think
ontop of that, there are trackers everywhere to collect data on you, google privacy invasion is a very real thing and a concern.

 

[FabioSelau]

Isn't it easier to go to a lan house?

 

[hadeaghal]

then maybe, a used de-googled android phone
however, unless you re-route your home internet through layers of proxies, which still a chance of leaking, yet at the same time, they still know you "visited gmail.com", thus there footprints that can still potentially be traced back to you.
ISP sees alot more than you would think & vpns/proxies don't hide as much as you would like their customers to think
ontop of that, there are trackers everywhere to collect data on you, google privacy invasion is a very real thing and a concern.

I don't feel comfortable doing this with any phone because I feel like any phone has more tracking abilities than any laptop. I don't understand why my home ISP is a concern here, if I am using coffeeshop wifi to create the gmail.

 

[hadeaghal]

Isn't it easier to go to a lan house?

I don't know what a lan house is.

 

[razharov]

I am still undecided if the phone would be near me or far away from me when the code comes through, or if it makes a difference.

Yes, please hire someone, send him or her away from you like 400-500 (so its safe) and when the phone receive the code, send it by the local post office.

Can you explain what is happening here?
Are you the same guy who opened 24 thread about protonmail signup fails via tor trying to convince us that you didn't do anything illegal and this is just for fun?

 

[xReminisce]

I don't feel comfortable doing this with any phone because I feel like any phone has more tracking abilities than any laptop. I don't understand why my home ISP is a concern here, if I am using coffeeshop wifi to create the gmail.

Assumed you meant that you will be using that account at home not exclusively at the coffeshop.
However, that could potentially be also a concern, as you don't know the security layer on that coffeshop connection, whether it is encrypted or not or if the storeowner is watching or not... or if anyone else leeching there are watching. It's a variable.

As far as taking it home, if location services & if it isn't connected to internet it shouldn't track your whereabous.
Pretty sure Location services also has a feature called "Approx" over "Precise" to put more anonyomity on your whereabouts.

As for phones, check out degoogle such as GrapheneOS, it's pretty much comes as close as to what a world of OS is without the tracking.

 

[Doctor Sleep]

Why don't you buy 50 emails from the marketplace?

 

[hadeaghal]

Assumed you meant that you will be using that account at home not exclusively at the coffeshop.
However, that could potentially be also a concern, as you don't know the security layer on that coffeshop connection, whether it is encrypted or not or if the storeowner is watching or not... or if anyone else leeching there are watching. It's a variable.

As far as taking it home, if location services & if it isn't connected to internet it shouldn't track your whereabous.
Pretty sure Location services also has a feature called "Approx" over "Precise" to put more anonyomity on your whereabouts.

As for phones, check out degoogle such as GrapheneOS, it's pretty much comes as close as to what a world of OS is without the tracking.

ok thanks. I didn't think of the store owner watching. that's a valid point. But if the store owner is not following me home, then is it still a concern?
I would never connect that laptop to the internet at any place other than this specific coffeeshop. I don't know what location services means. I have never seen that in my laptop. I have been thinking about getting grapheneOS but I feel like cell phones are much more likely to communicate with cell towers than laptops.

 

[hadeaghal]

Yes, please hire someone, send him or her away from you like 400-500 (so its safe) and when the phone receive the code, send it by the local post office.

Can you explain what is happening here?
Are you the same guy who opened 24 thread about proton mail signup fails via tor?

This site is blackhatworld. The primary purpose of this site is to share ways that we can hide from google. But it's ok, I figured I would get some intelligent responses and some responses like yours.

 

[hadeaghal]

Why don't you buy 50 emails from the marketplace?

isn't the answer obvious? because I don't trust their history, maybe a drug dealer used that account before and he is trying to pass his problems onto me.

 

[razharov]

As far as taking it home, if location services & if it isn't connected to internet it shouldn't track your whereabous.

Everything tracks you.

New iPhones at least admit it, even when its turned off (or battery dies) it says "iPhone still findable" meaning its located.
And the new 14 Pro has satellite antennas in it, so even if you dont have mobile coverage they can find your phone whenever they want.

But this guy is something else, im pretty sure he is the same guy who already opened 20+ threads on an other account, and at the same time, who believes that this guy just needs a random gmail account, but so afraid of everything for an account that he does not wanna send or receive anything....

 

[xReminisce]

ok thanks. I didn't think of the store owner watching. that's a valid point. But if the store owner is not following me home, then is it still a concern?
I would never connect that laptop to the internet at any place other than this specific coffeeshop. I don't know what location services means. I have never seen that in my laptop. I have been thinking about getting grapheneOS but I feel like cell phones are much more likely to communicate with cell towers than laptops.

Laptops & PCs also have that same "Location Services" feature.


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But if the store owner is not following me home, then is it still a concern?

No, not really, aslong as you never use your "personal" accounts on that same device, or even better yet never on that hotspot, they will never have your main details ever.
They really have no idea who data that belongs to and can possibility never be able to tie it back to you either.

 

[razharov]

This site is blackhatworld. The primary purpose of this site is to share ways that we can hide from google. But it's ok, I figured I would get some intelligent responses and some responses like yours.

No dude, you are lying to us at the first place, its clear that you are doing something real illegal stuff the tone of your writing and the way you are afraid tells us soo easily that here is something, and this is not your first account here posting the same stuff in really weird ways.
And about the site, as you can see the logo clearly says "SEO FORUM" you know what that means? The opposite of what you said

 

[hadeaghal]

No dude, you are lying to us at the first place, its clear that you are doing something real illegal stuff the tone of your writing and the way you are afraid tells us soo easily that here is something, and this is not your first account here posting the same stuff in really weird ways.
And about the site, as you can see the logo clearly says "SEO FORUM" you know what that means? The opposite of what you said

ok sounds like you have made up your mind and there is no changing it.

 

[hadeaghal]

Assumed you meant that you will be using that account at home not exclusively at the coffeshop.
However, that could potentially be also a concern, as you don't know the security layer on that coffeshop connection, whether it is encrypted or not or if the storeowner is watching or not... or if anyone else leeching there are watching. It's a variable.

As far as taking it home, if location services & if it isn't connected to internet it shouldn't track your whereabous.
Pretty sure Location services also has a feature called "Approx" over "Precise" to put more anonyomity on your whereabouts.

As for phones, check out degoogle such as GrapheneOS, it's pretty much comes as close as to what a world of OS is without the tracking.

hey man,
thanks for this discussion. of all the people that replied, only your answer was a scientific discussion. everybody else either completely missed the point (talking about browser fingerprinting when this has zero to do with browser fingerprinting) or made fun of me. is location tracking exclusively software based? meaning, if a laptop doesn't have os, google cannot know where it is?