⭐Bart Simpson destroyed YouTube keyword research⭐

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I am currently learning about YouTube (YT) keyword (KW) research tools and methodologies. Comparing approaches, algorithms, and effectiveness from the most known YT KW research tools, here is what I see...

if you want to see how all the tools that me and you are paying for show different results on the same keywords just follow the white rabbit...

To see what I see here first you have to understand how the tools actually calculate the keyword ranking difficulties

Let's start with VIDIQ​
Here is a quick example
Let's pick "Bart Simpson rap"
VIDIQ offers an option to see the keyword SEO parameters directly on the YT search results

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#1 Overall score. Here is what they put as a definition of this parameter:
The Overall score is determined to help gauge how effective this keyword would be in your video optimization efforts.

If you have a 1M+ subscriber channel, you might be able to break into highly competitive search terms, but if you are a smaller channel it's better to stay focused on the mid-range search terms with low competition.

#2 Volume. The definition given by VIDIQ is bellow
The first thing to look for is the ‘Search Volume’ score. Chocolate Cake is a solid 100, which is the highest it can be. What does that mean? Essentially, lots of people are looking for chocolate cake, which is great, there is no point making a video nobody's even searching for. Now we've told you the search volume is nice and high. Perfect. Do we go ahead and just make this video now? No, not yet.
#3 Competition. Here is what I found they are saying the definition of this is:
The next thing we got to look at is something called the ‘Competition Score.’ What does that mean? Well, we have a high search volume, but look at the competition! Look how many other people are delivering value on this keyword, and how many videos are being made. The ‘Competition Score’ is a solid 89, which means the odds of your ranking amongst these major videos are going to be pretty slim if you only title your YouTube video with the words "chocolate cake’.

vidIQ Tip: Ideally, find a keyword with lots of search volume, and very little competition. It's rare, but when you find it, it's amazing.
What conclusions do I make after reading all the above?
The calculation algorithm is not shared by VIDIQ
Why?
Because numbers are hard-coded... They did not exactly say we take the number of views and divide that by like likes and that way get engagement rate... Nope, anything even close only what we get is some general text explanation. Common sense style.

it's hard to find how VIDIQ counts those values... Therefore, in my opinion, it's a black box for us, and that's bad. Because what is our guarantee that it really works? The only way to find out this kind of a tool, which does not share its mechanics, would be through tests and experiments, collecting data. What I want to show you now is a case study where I will cross-compare this and other values between a few tools and YouTube keyword research methodologies.

Now let's move to TubeBuddy​

First of all, here is the overall unweighted score for this search term estimated by TB
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As you can see the values differ significantly compared to VIDIQ results... But as for now let's just dig into TB KW ranking research parameters. Later we will dive deeper into comparison across tools.

TubeBuddy offers weighted and unweighted data

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Now, TubeBuddy (TB) seem not to reveal how they count the overall score and search volume, however, they do reveal more details about the following parameters

Competition. Quoted from TB website...
Competition is another relative score based on several factors. We look at how many results there are for a specific keyword or phrase and how many views the video results have. Also, how many times your search term appears in the title, tags, and description of each video in the results. These things help predict how hard it would be for you to rank high in the search results.
and if weighted...
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Now, they also do offer this small graph, which I believe is related to competition as well

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Notice how TB is taking the average amount of views per video for a specific search term ranking difficulty barrier value. This is important as later in this case study I will show you how other tools are taking a different approach to competition analysis.

Optimization strength.
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As I understand the higher the number of "exact matches", when the search term is found in the title of the video, the higher would the optimization strength.

It seems to me that the values above are the main TB keyword research parameters however there are a bunch more worth looking into. I.e.

"# of Videos in Search Results"

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Honestly, I have no idea where this number is coming from... YT, as far as I know, does not reveal the number of vids in search results, however, if we do a "video" search for a keyword in google we can get an overall number of vids from various sources. And as you can see that number is almost twice less for this KW...

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TB also mentions # of Monthly Searches (estimate) and for some reason, it goes independently from the search volume (or maybe somehow connected on the back end). Anyways, here is what they state it is
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To sum up...
At the first glance, it seems like TB is giving us more parameters and in a slightly more open way, briefly explaining the maths behind a few values. We managed to learn something about the algorithm they use to calculate optimization strength (keyword exact matches) and competition (opt., str,. + avg views per video).

Let's move to the next tool which would be Morningfa.me (MF)​

Now, in my opinion, MF is the most transparent among the above, especially when it comes to explaining where they are taking the numbers from... It also seems to give much more parameters to take into account when doing your KW research. I am not going to dive deep into all of them so let's go with the ones that are also mentioned by the tools that we have investigated above.

The first one would be the Search Volume.
There is no easy definition given on how they calculate SV, however, they confess that it is an estimated value and they give an extensive explanation of what are their and their competitor's actual possibilities and approaches to calculating SV. The most important thesis they are giving here is that no one except for google trends (youtube section) really has access to the search volumes on YT and the only effective way, in their opinion, to calculate SV would be to use a bunch of tools cross-checking on another.

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Here is a mind map MF is giving for search volume analysis
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Here is a screenshot from MF keyword research panel
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Now the green tick here means that MF was able to confirm that this particular search term was found as a suggested keyword. This by itself already means that there is a certain search volume here. As obviously YT creates suggested keywords based on what's being searched... If the term was not found as a suggested KW there would have been a red cross. The number here is an estimated search value, which according to MF should be cross-checked with google trends and so on.

Now, as for Competition analysis, MF only offers a "weighted" approach. Where the ranking difficulty is defined by comparing your channel stats against subscribers, views, and likes & comments of the videos already ranking for this KW.

MF offers the "gateway video" approach. They define the ranking difficulty by looking at the video from a channel with the least amount of subscribers. The more subscribers your channel has compared to the gateway video the better the chances to rank.

Unlike other tools in this article, MF does not give an overall score. Instead of that, it gives 4 main parameters affecting the ranking opportunity and calculates a grade for each of these parameters. Using such a measuring system can result in making smarter and better-balanced decisions. As even if one or two factors seem to be great, another one can block the whole idea potentially saving your time from fake gold.

In conclusion, in my own opinion, MF is the most transparent tool among the above. But is it really efficient?

Now when we are speaking in the same language, when we stated some definitions of the most important terms and have some theory under the hood... Let's just do some real-life experiments...​

I have taken "Bart Simpson" as the main keyword and collected approximately 4000+ suggested KWs. I scraped each very first 20 videos in the search results for each of those 4k suggested KWs. For each keyword, and for each video ranking on that KW I have scrapped the number of subs (picked the gateway video to calculate an approximate ranking difficulty), and views count (summed up all the views counts for each video for each KW to roughly calculate the search volume (would be more accurate if I were to calculate relevance as well)). Having all that data I have sorted the KWs to detect the ones that have the most search volume while having the least ranking difficulty (based on the "gateway" video approach).
That way I picked 50 keywords, and now, most importantly, I took my time to run all those 50 KWs through each of the tools above. And here is the data.

The full table on google drive

I have collected the following values
TubeBuddy:
overall score weighted and unweighted, volume, competition, and optimization values.
VIDIQ
overall score, volume, and competition values
Morningfame
Volume, gateway video subs count, and average subs count (average subs count between videos ranking for this KW).

What can we say looking at this data?

Let's start by comparing TB and VIDIQ results
1. Overall scores for TB and VIDIQ simply don't match...

The screenshot below shows the highest values for a weighted overall score by TB
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And this one is sorted from largest to smallest overall ranking store according to VIDIQ
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1/10 matched...

What about competition?
2. Competiton analysis by TubeBuddy and VIDIQ do not match.
Here we go again... the tools are giving diametrically opposite results.
Remember, when TB is saying "Excellent" it means that according to TB there is no significant competition
now take a look here...
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out of 57 KWs, TB and VIDIQ matched on competition level only in 7 cases...

How about TB's and VIDIQ's search volume results comparison?
Well, in this case, both of them showed a flat curve (poor/fair & 40-47 for all KW's) so there is no space to compare maximums and minimums on such data... HOWEVER, MF did show some additional interesting results...
First of all, I need to say, that MF appears to be lacking in the suggested keywords data as it did not find the majority from this list.
- (means MF is saying this suggested KW does not exist)
? (means MF is aware of this suggested KW but cannot offer the SV)
Nevertheless,
Here are the top KW sorted by search volume according to MF
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No comments...
Just wanted to add that even though TB and VIDIQ are giving almost identical results on search volume for each KW in this list, MF shows results that do vary a lot... The numbers from MF are everywhere from 0 to 100 which seem to be much more alive.

How about competition analysis if we compare MF to VIDIQ and TB?

If we look close enough we can notice that in some cases where VIDIQ is saying the competition is "very low" MF proves that. But straight away we can see there are other cases where MF is showing the same figures but VIDIQ is saying "very high".
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Now you will ask me: "Knowing that, how do I live my life from now on?"
Well, the data above is, in fact, too small, to make a final judgment.

I hope you enjoyed reading it...

Now I am working on automating the collection of this data from all the tools above as well as optimizing my own youtube keyword research bots

Please share your thoughts on the given data! Which Youtube keyword research tool do you use? Was it effective for you?

If this article gets 24+ likes I will publish a bigger case study with 500+ keywords involved and maybe even some real ranking experiments.
 
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Here is a mind map MF is giving for search volume analysis
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Here is a screenshot from MF keyword research panel
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Now the green tick here means that MF was able to confirm that this particular search term was found as a suggested keyword. This by itself already means that there is a certain search volume here. As obviously YT creates suggested keywords based on what's being searched... If the term was not found as a suggested KW there would have been a red cross. The number here is an estimated search value, which according to MF should be cross-checked with google trends and so on.

Now, as for Competition analysis, MF only offers a "weighted" approach. Where the ranking difficulty is defined by comparing your channel stats against subscribers, views, and likes & comments of the videos already ranking for this KW.

MF offers the "gateway video" approach. They define the ranking difficulty by looking at the video from a channel with the least amount of subscribers. The more subscribers your channel has compared to the gateway video the better the chances to rank.

Unlike other tools in this article, MF does not give an overall score. Instead of that, it gives 4 main parameters affecting the ranking opportunity and calculates a grade for each of these parameters. Using such a measuring system can result in making smarter and better-balanced decisions. As even if one or two factors seem to be great, another one can block the whole idea potentially saving your time from fake gold.

In conclusion, in my own opinion, MF is the most transparent tool among the above. But is it really efficient?

Now when we are speaking in the same language, when we stated some definitions of the most important terms and have some theory under the hood... Let's just do some real-life experiments...​

I have taken "Bart Simpson" as the main keyword and collected approximately 4000+ suggested KWs. I scraped each very first 20 videos in the search results for each of those 4k suggested KWs. For each keyword, and for each video ranking on that KW I have scrapped the number of subs (picked the gateway video to calculate an approximate ranking difficulty), and views count (summed up all the views counts for each video for each KW to roughly calculate the search volume (would be more accurate if I were to calculate relevance as well)). Having all that data I have sorted the KWs to detect the ones that have the most search volume while having the least ranking difficulty (based on the "gateway" video approach).
That way I picked 50 keywords, and now, most importantly, I took my time to run all those 50 KWs through each of the tools above. And here is the data.

The full table on google drive

I have collected the following values
TubeBuddy:
overall score weighted and unweighted, volume, competition, and optimization values.
VIDIQ
overall score, volume, and competition values
Morningfame
Volume, gateway video subs count, and average subs count (average subs count between videos ranking for this KW).

What can we say looking at this data?

Let's start by comparing TB and VIDIQ results
1. Overall scores for TB and VIDIQ simply don't match...

The screenshot below shows the highest values for a weighted overall score by TB
View attachment 230389
And this one is sorted from largest to smallest overall ranking store according to VIDIQ
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1/10 matched...

What about competition?
2. Competiton analysis by TubeBuddy and VIDIQ do not match.
Here we go again... the tools are giving diametrically opposite results.
Remember, when TB is saying "Excellent" it means that according to TB there is no significant competition
now take a look here...
View attachment 230391
out of 57 KWs, TB and VIDIQ matched on competition level only in 7 cases...

How about TB's and VIDIQ's search volume results comparison?
Well, in this case, both of them showed a flat curve (poor/fair & 40-47 for all KW's) so there is no space to compare maximums and minimums on such data... HOWEVER, MF did show some additional interesting results...
First of all, I need to say, that MF appears to be lacking in the suggested keywords data as it did not find the majority from this list.
- (means MF is saying this suggested KW does not exist)
? (means MF is aware of this suggested KW but cannot offer the SV)
Nevertheless,
Here are the top KW sorted by search volume according to MF
View attachment 230392
No comments...
Just wanted to add that even though TB and VIDIQ are giving almost identical results on search volume for each KW in this list, MF shows results that do vary a lot... The numbers from MF are everywhere from 0 to 100 which seem to be much more alive.

How about competition analysis if we compare MF to VIDIQ and TB?

If we look close enough we can notice that in some cases where VIDIQ is saying the competition is "very low" MF proves that. But straight away we can see there are other cases where MF is showing the same figures but VIDIQ is saying "very high".
View attachment 230393

Now you will ask me: "Knowing that, how do I live my life from now on?"
Well, the data above is, in fact, too small, to make a final judgment.

I hope you enjoyed reading it...

Now I am working on automating the collection of this data from all the tools above as well as optimizing my own youtube keyword research bots

Please share your thoughts on the given data! Which Youtube keyword research tool do you use? Was it effective for you?

If this article gets 24+ likes I will publish a bigger case study with 500+ keywords involved and maybe even some real ranking experiments.
Very good information. I thought that keywords didn’t really matter anymore. No joke, I literally watched a video last night and they said that it doesn’t do much. Not sure what to believe now. Should I focus on keywords or not?
 
Very good information. I thought that keywords didn’t really matter anymore. No joke, I literally watched a video last night and they said that it doesn’t do much. Not sure what to believe now. Should I focus on keywords or not?
Basically, on YouTube, you have a few traffic sources which include Browse, Suggested, and Search. You can optimize your videos to get views from each of those. Search is still effective... Don't forget YT is the second biggest search engine.
Wow what a great in depth post. Thanks for taking the time to share this.
Thanks a lot! It took me some time to compile all the above data... Hope people will find it helpful. More yet to come!
 
Looks like there will be a second episode coming...

Do you have any ideas about what to use as the main keyword?
 
Now I have a bot to collect all the scores from one of the tools... I will use it to collect scores for a bigger sample of keywords
 
Very well organised. Looks like there are some expectionals everywhere :)
 
Such great information, looking forward for more.
Will you please send me invitation code of Morningfame.
 
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