AMA about PBNs (setup, footprints, things to avoid, et al.)

[janist]

Hey, great thread, i started another regarding to this but will delete it now! So i bought several expired domains, restored them with small edits. My question is, do i need to spread them out on different servers, web hosts or am i cool? My moneysite name company pops up when people search on whois (swedish version of whois) and you can clearly see that i own these domains.

i think u guys call this footprint right?

Background info:
I have about 8 links linked to my moneysite, atleast 50% are relevant, not excatly the same niche but construction business. I´ve linked about 10-15 links to those links from others, not same niche.

Any thoughts and experiences would be greatly appreciated.

The hosting is covered in depth in the thread already.

Never worked with .se domains, so not sure how GDPR applies to WHOIS for swedish domains, but from what i can see at registrar, privacy is possible for .se domains.

 

[yoheyyo88]

The hosting is covered in depth in the thread already.

Never worked with .se domains, so not sure how GDPR applies to WHOIS for swedish domains, but from what i can see at registrar, privacy is possible for .se domains.

thx man! could u please quote that part of the thread so i can read it =) i think privacy is possible, it costs about 400 usd/year, feels to expensive but maybe worth it if its important

 

[janist]

Check out the guide here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/the-ultimate-pbn-guide.1360359/

 

[shahzeb khann]

Can we use pbn on a new domain....

 

[trebhin]

When creating a new landing page/ slug for a PBN - is it worth targeting keywords or should they be avoided and just go for something generic related to the content of the post? For example, if setting up an OBL to money site landing page about 'indoor plants' - should the PBN slug include 'indoor plants' or be avoided or doesn't really matter?

 

[janist]

When creating a new landing page/ slug for a PBN - is it worth targeting keywords or should they be avoided and just go for something generic related to the content of the post? For example, if setting up an OBL to money site landing page about 'indoor plants' - should the PBN slug include 'indoor plants' or be avoided or doesn't really matter?

If you can make it relevant, then do that.

Otherwise if you need to rebuild an inner page that has links to it, you want to rebuild the exact slug irregardless of relevance.

 

[trebhin]

If you can make it relevant, then do that.

Otherwise if you need to rebuild an inner page that has links to it, you want to rebuild the exact slug irregardless of relevance.

Good to know - thanks very much for your response. Just to clarify, if I was creating a new post (sticky post on the home page with OBL to money site) - would it be worth including any of the keywords (I was targeting on landing page of money site) in the slug of that new post - or not necessary (just make it topic-relevant)? I hope that's clear

 

[anatolij1888]

Hi! a new question just poped out. i need to make a network of stealth G search Console accounts. 30-50 of them for a PBN. Can you advice anything?

 

[fb3003]

Hi! a new question just poped out. i need to make a network of stealth G search Console accounts. 30-50 of them for a PBN. Can you advice anything?

do you have an old yahoo email account? if so, you can create shit load of alias email accounts and create another shit load of GSC accounts. all of these being managed through a single inbox.

 

[allan.d]

Nice AMA!

Thanks for all answered questions.

I have a question if you dont mind, now that the AI articles are everywhere and are very cheap to get. Do you think is a good idea to post 10 good articles when you lunch the PBN and than schedule 100 AI articles to get posted 1-2 per week so the PBN will stay up to date?

Thank you in advance

 

[anatolij1888]

do you have an old yahoo email account? if so, you can create shit load of alias email accounts and create another shit load of GSC accounts. all of these being managed through a single inbox.

probably the question i asked was a bit wrong. registering email acounts is not a problem I have hundrebs of these. accesing these from 1 computer is.

 

[fb3003]

probably the question i asked was a bit wrong. registering email acounts is not a problem I have hundrebs of these. accesing these from 1 computer is.

accessing these is not an issue. creating the actual GSC from a single computer it. make sure you use residential IP without VPN or proxy.

why are you even creating GSC accounts for your PBNs?! if you had 3-5, I would say go ahead. You would have enough control to not leave a footprint behind. But 30-50, that is crazy. Just don't create any GSC for them. No value; just headache.

 

[anatolij1888]

accessing these is not an issue. creating the actual GSC from a single computer it. make sure you use residential IP without VPN or proxy.

why are you even creating GSC accounts for your PBNs?! if you had 3-5, I would say go ahead. You would have enough control to not leave a footprint behind. But 30-50, that is crazy. Just don't create any GSC for them. No value; just headache.

Just an experiment. there are always things happening

 

[fb3003]

Just an experiment. there are always things happening

it is a pretty stupid experiment.

Tie a small Lego to a plastic bag (like a parachute) and throw it out of a 10 story window. Pretty sure, that the plastic bag will act like a parachute.

now, tie the same plastic bag to yourself and jump from the same window. You still want to experiment or you want me to save you some headache??!?!?! pretty sure you will end up dead!

 

[anatolij1888]

it is a pretty stupid experiment.

Tie a small Lego to a plastic bag (like a parachute) and throw it out of a 10 story window. Pretty sure, that the plastic bag will act like a parachute.

now, tie the same plastic bag to yourself and jump from the same window. You still want to experiment or you want me to save you some headache??!?!?! pretty sure you will end up dead!

thank for an opinion

 

[fb3003]

thank for an opinion

it would mean a lot to drink a shot for me when you go out tonight !!!

cheers!

 

[anatolij1888]

it would mean a lot to drink a shot for me when you go out tonight !!!

cheers!

Cheers

 

[janist]

Hi! a new question just poped out. i need to make a network of stealth G search Console accounts. 30-50 of them for a PBN. Can you advice anything?

Hm, not really, since we never use GSC on PBNs. Can't think of of a reason to use GSC, either. Probably have to get something coded for a one-stop login that utilizes dedicated proxies.

Nice AMA!

Thanks for all answered questions.

I have a question if you dont mind, now that the AI articles are everywhere and are very cheap to get. Do you think is a good idea to post 10 good articles when you lunch the PBN and than schedule 100 AI articles to get posted 1-2 per week so the PBN will stay up to date?

Thank you in advance

Good question. AI is still new. We are actually doing some fine-tuning models on openAI right now to see if we can generate decent enough articles for PBNs (400-600 words). Then it's all about testing.... long term. Think we can only make some fundamental conclusion after 6-12 months of testing it on a fresh domain.

 

[FlyFlay]

1. how many links are too many pbns towards a website so it becomes suspicious?
2. what is the risk in using a pbn, i mean, if for example one link seems suspicious, it might be, but if i point 50 links and only one is seeming off, does it matter?
3. does the relevancy matter? because most pbns are kind of general, do they impact negrtively?
4. is there an optimal ratio between guest posts/niche edits/pbns?
because if you ask me, they are all the 'same shit' - if i were google i would treat each as equal because it was acquired not legitimately, with the exclusion of domain quality that in guest post you have more control over.

 

[janist]

1. how many links are too many pbns towards a website so it becomes suspicious?
2. what is the risk in using a pbn, i mean, if for example one link seems suspicious, it might be, but if i point 50 links and only one is seeming off, does it matter?
3. does the relevancy matter? because most pbns are kind of general, do they impact negrtively?
4. is there an optimal ratio between guest posts/niche edits/pbns?
because if you ask me, they are all the 'same shit' - if i were google i would treat each as equal because it was acquired not legitimately, with the exclusion of domain quality that in guest post you have more control over.

All already answered in the thread. The search function is your friend ;-)