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Hi, I bought a few thousands of gmail accounts from @nopolice, if i remember correctly its around 9000+. He said the accounts will not die if not logged in for a long time, the accounts are bulltet proof. So I bought a ton of accounts in advance so the accounts will age before we will use them.
Their accounts are working great, however, one day all accounts that we're currently in use + a few more thousands that we're still aging, all died at the same time. ALL AT ONCE. I purchased a few more accounts on his website to check if their accounts that are currently for sale are still working. To my surprise, they are all dead as well. So it looks like google purged all their accounts. Recently he gave me a 50 accounts replacements to test that they just recently created. Guess what? All of them are disabled as well right off the bat.

Now he said he can't replace a large number of accounts because it will cost them a lot of money and the company will go bankrupt. he offered me a 300 replacement accounts and I rejected because I think its unfair.

Suddenly he came up with a "30 day warranty only" since he knew that my last 2 purchases were placed more than 30 days. I was asking him to replace my last 2 purchases which totals around 3000 accounts which werent even used yet. He kept on putting the blame on me that its due to my usage where in fact its pretty obvious that his accounts/method got patched by google and he even acknowledged it. He have a lot of inconsistencies on his reasoning and hes just trying his best to get away with it.

Link of the full conversation on telegram - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wTq3wYxtjVewfrrR8yy60oFnaqsx6LTR?usp=sharing
Link of his BST - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/g...l-accounts-starting-from-0-05eur-ins.1317835/
 
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The conversation submitted by @jmsalvador021 shows how I've clearly stated the accounts were disabled due to the way they were accessed (eg. use of flagged and/or saturated IP addresses, repeated use of browser fingerprints, shared cookie profiles) and/or used (eg. Spamming, Blackmailing, Malware spreading, use of softwares and other automation tools, TOS violations).

I do not know how these accounts were used, all I can say - and prove - is that the accounts were indeed used. No other customer had to deal with "9000+" accounts that were all somehow linked to each other and all died at the same time. Moreover, this user keeps changing his version as shown in the same conversation he submitted. Initially he claimed that all of the accounts were purged, then said how "about 3000" accounts are still working fine" and now he went back to his original claim.

I am going to re-submit the same exact information I've already provided:

This customer contacted regarding an issue NOT CAUSED BY US - this issue appeared several months after the accounts were purchased. "Jim" kept claiming the accounts were disabled because of us, however no other customer reported this issue - even with accounts coming from the same exact batch that was delivered to this user.

Even though the issue is not related to our method or the accounts, we decided to provide a full replacement for every account purchased in the last 31 days. As clearly stated in the product's description (https://nopoliceservices.com/product/5f8bd906cde37) and the warranty page of our website, we provide a 30 days warranty on this product (Gmail PVA).

On top of that, we agreed to provide 300 accounts on top of the warranty as this is a returning customer. No matter the warranty and the origin of the issue, this user demanded "at least 3000" accounts as replacement. After asking for the recent (31 days or less) invoice IDs, I've received the following:

2a6909-ca3d35426e-962b94 (1941 accounts)
8034ed-027cbb7c15-ebb361 (1682 accounts)

These orders are respectively from the 8 and 29 June (over 2 months old). So far, we have replaced every single "faulty" account. I remember this customer has contacted us multiple times due to the same issue and ALWAYS received a replacement. That is because he always contacted us within 30 days or less from the order. He is now pretending a refund or full replacement for two orders that are over 70 days old.

The accounts have been working perfectly for over 2 months, which is double the guaranteed time stated in the product's description and warranty page on the website. Other than that, the issue is not covered by our warranty at all. As stated on our BHW's thread (https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/gmail-yahoo-hotmail-outlook-aol-yandex-mail-ru-rambler-pva-non-pva-email-accounts-starting-from-0-05eur-ins.1317835/), the warranty does not cover "Abuse of the platform's TOS" - which is exactly what this customer is experiencing.

How does he explain the fact that most of our accounts have NOT been disabled? There are several customers that never had an issue after purchasing the same exact batch he has purchased. Yet, apparently all of his accounts have been disabled overnight after having no issues whatsoever for well over two months.

No matter the huge expense on our side - in terms of both time and money and the fact the issue not caused by us nor covered by warranty, we still decided to issue a replacement or a full refund for each of the accounts that were purchased during the last 30 days. Moreover, I personally offered 300 extra accounts on top of the replacements.

According to our logs, this customer has only purchased 3 accounts during the last 65 days (23426b-bd58611094-828baa). Jim received a full replacement for the recent order + 50 extra accounts. If he agrees to provide any additional invoice ID from the last 30 days, we will be able to replace those accounts as well.

With no surprise, Jim keeps claiming the new accounts are disabled as well. This is probably due to the fact he's using either saturated devices, IPs, browser fingerprints or all of the above. Due to lack of good manners and understanding, I decided we will not provide the 300 accounts we agreed on as a courtesy and one time exception. That is

I can provide screenshots of the full conversation with the customer, as well as order dates and account details. We will not issue a refund or replacement because of the following FIVE reasons:
  1. The warranty does not cover the issue this user is experiencing.
  2. The issue is caused by either the user's setup or usage of the accounts.
  3. All of the orders are out of warranty.
  4. All of the accounts were working perfectly when delivered and have been working for over 2 months.
  5. No other customer reported these issues - even with accounts from the same batch.
If you or any of the mods require any additional information I will provide it ASAP. I am not ignoring this issue, I am simply the fact we are not responsible for the way these accounts are used. If you doubt about the quality of our accounts, simply let me know if you would like to receive a batch and test it. I am certain you will not experience of these issues when using a proper setup, while making sure that thousands upon thousands of accounts are not linked between each other.

Normally, we would issue either a replacement or a refund as a courtesy if the order was placed within the last month - even when the issues are not covered by our refund policy. The problem here is that apart from the issue not being caused by us, apart from the fact the problem is not covered by our refund policy, it also also extends well beyond our warranty time. The accounts died months after they were ACCESSED AND USED by the customer.
 
"I do not know how these accounts were used, all I can say - and prove - is that the accounts were indeed used. No other customer had to deal with "9000+" accounts that were all somehow linked to each other and all died at the same time. Moreover, this user keeps changing his version as shown in the same conversation he submitted. Initially he claimed that all of the accounts were purged, then said how "about 3000" accounts are still working fine" and now he went back to his original claim."

Show some proof that I am changing my version of the story. I said out of these 9000 accounts 3000 were currently being used and they are working fine. Until 1 day all of these 3000 died all at the same time. We've checked the remaining 6000+ unused accounts and to our surprise they are dead as well. Stop twisting stories. The moment I reported this issue to you, i purchased 3 more accounts on your website. THEY ARE DEAD AS WELL! So it looks like all accounts created on the same method DIED. Tell me if im lying.
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After that you sent me 3 accounts that were on the same batch and I SHOWED YOU THAT THEY ARE ALSO DEAD. Then you gave me 3 russian accounts. They are working
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How can you EXPLAIN THIS?
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It looks like you defense mechanism is to blame the customer. You are sure that all of these accounts are already used? WHAT IF I CAN PROVE THAT THEY ARE NOT UNUSED? What will you do?
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You said no one complained correct? Stop lying. You said you also have dozens of customers reporting the same issue. You even stopped offering the USA accounts and you offered me RUSSIAN ACCOUNTS instead because it looks like this are the ones working at that time since all your USA Accounts GOT PURGED!
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Again, you claim that there are no problem with your accounts YET YOU ARE EXPERIMENTING NEW METHODS. Seriously?
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After that you sent me 50 accounts to test. I checked them right away and THEY ARE DEAD OFF THE BAT. Then you realized you're fucked then suddenly resorted to the 30 day guarantee which is not even stated on your BHW BST just so you can get away with this.
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Funny because you're the one kept on changing stories. Now all of a sudden theres no issue with your accounts and I killed them?
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As ive said. I can prove that around 6000 accounts more or less were still unused before they died. i clearly explained to you the purpose of my buying the accounts. I even followed your suggestion to use HQ IPs with them even if they are expensive. I am buying them from you in advance because it will be cheaper for us to age them than buy aged ones.


I leave it all to @BassTrackerBoats. I will respect his judgement. I have a way to prove that around 6000 accounts were unused but i will need his help. Because if i do it myself im pretty sure you'll blame and use it against me again. Just like what you always do. NO ACCOUNTABILITY!
 
"I do not know how these accounts were used, all I can say - and prove - is that the accounts were indeed used. No other customer had to deal with "9000+" accounts that were all somehow linked to each other and all died at the same time. Moreover, this user keeps changing his version as shown in the same conversation he submitted. Initially he claimed that all of the accounts were purged, then said how "about 3000" accounts are still working fine" and now he went back to his original claim."

Show some proof that I am changing my version of the story. I said out of these 9000 accounts 3000 were currently being used and they are working fine. Until 1 day all of these 3000 died all at the same time. We've checked the remaining 6000+ unused accounts and to our surprise they are dead as well. Stop twisting stories. The moment I reported this issue to you, i purchased 3 more accounts on your website. THEY ARE DEAD AS WELL! So it looks like all accounts created on the same method DIED. Tell me if im lying.
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After that you sent me 3 accounts that were on the same batch and I SHOWED YOU THAT THEY ARE ALSO DEAD. Then you gave me 3 russian accounts. They are working
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How can you EXPLAIN THIS?
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It looks like you defense mechanism is to blame the customer. You are sure that all of these accounts are already used? WHAT IF I CAN PROVE THAT THEY ARE NOT UNUSED? What will you do?
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You said no one complained correct? Stop lying. You said you also have dozens of customers reporting the same issue. You even stopped offering the USA accounts and you offered me RUSSIAN ACCOUNTS instead because it looks like this are the ones working at that time since all your USA Accounts GOT PURGED!
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Again, you claim that there are no problem with your accounts YET YOU ARE EXPERIMENTING NEW METHODS. Seriously?
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After that you sent me 50 accounts to test. I checked them right away and THEY ARE DEAD OFF THE BAT. Then you realized you're fucked then suddenly resorted to the 30 day guarantee which is not even stated on your BHW BST just so you can get away with this.
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Funny because you're the one kept on changing stories. Now all of a sudden theres no issue with your accounts and I killed them?
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As ive said. I can prove that around 6000 accounts more or less were still unused before they died. i clearly explained to you the purpose of my buying the accounts. I even followed your suggestion to use HQ IPs with them even if they are expensive. I am buying them from you in advance because it will be cheaper for us to age them than buy aged ones.


I leave it all to @BassTrackerBoats. I will respect his judgement. I have a way to prove that around 6000 accounts were unused but i will need his help. Because if i do it myself im pretty sure you'll blame and use it against me again. Just like what you always do. NO ACCOUNTABILITY!

This is getting ridiculous. I am going to answer each of your false accusations one-by-one. I will not be addressing any future claim that comes from you, this has been going on for weeks and I have other customers that require my time and support.

"Show some proof that I am changing my version of the story."

km4xlGl

(August 24, claiming that some of the accounts were not used)

nW0Llec

(August 25, admitting that ALL of the accounts were used with a software and are "Just warming up" while 3000 accounts were actively used)

aWoJe5Z

(September 3, claiming that a few thousands of accounts are still unused)

Now you are saying that over 6000 thousands accounts were only checked recently and "to your surprise" they were also disabled. All of this after admitting you have logged into every single account with a software. It doesn't matter if you've ALL of the accounts or not, it's clear you did something wrong with those "3000" accounts you've used and they have been linked to all of the other accounts you have logged into.

If this is not changing the story I don't know what is.

The moment I reported this issue to you, i purchased 3 more accounts on your website. THEY ARE DEAD AS WELL! So it looks like all accounts created on the same method DIED.

The accounts most likely died because you have logged in using the same (or similar) information. Google can ban whole IP ranges and it can detect you are always using the same device if you do not adequately spoof your browser fingerprints and disable webRTC.

No matter what caused the issue, you have received a replacement with no question asked because you've reported the problem less than one day after purchasing.

It looks like you defense mechanism is to blame the customer. You are sure that all of these accounts are already used? WHAT IF I CAN PROVE THAT THEY ARE NOT UNUSED? What will you do?

You can not prove these accounts are unused, you openly admitted that all of the accounts were using for warming up and at least 3000 of them were intensively used, most likely for some illegal activity which you've already mentioned before.

If you've never logged into those accounts, they would not have been suspended. Simple as that. Instead, you did login into every single account without the proper proxies and setup + performed illegal activity on the accounts as below.

sjkj8bf



You said no one complained correct? Stop lying. You said you also have dozens of customers reporting the same issue.

I did not say that no one complained, I said that no one ever reported the same issue. When and where exactly did I say that other customers got thousands of accounts linked and suspended?

In our private conversation I have already stated that "We did issue other replacements as we do every single month and every single day". In fact, over the last months we have replaced hundreds of your accounts as well. You have always received a replacement no matter if the issue was covered by the warranty or our refund policy.

You have been our most problematic customer since the very beginning and we have been selling accounts for over 2 years. After replacing hundreds of account even when the issue were caused by you most of the times, you decided to blame on us when ALL of YOUR accounts died at the same time.

KjdTFuy

(May 19, hundreds of disabled accounts that were actually caused by our setup. This was indeed our fault and we took full responsibility for it. We had to replace tens of thousands of accounts, as well as issue lots of refunds. Other customers reported the issue as well as we provided a full replacement or refund to everyone)

88G4DcX

(May 25, 5 accounts got their password changed. Unknown issue, we provided a full replacement even if it's not covered by our refund policy)

0INiHH8

(May 27, 25 accounts got their password changed and were also replaced)


qIuDUUX

(July 5, 318 of your accounts were disabled while all of the accounts FROM THE SAME EXACT BATCH - which are exactly 10k - all worked fine and still do to this day. No other customer reported the issue. Still, we provided a full replacement)


e9BYgeW

(July 13, you reported 4x non-existing accounts and one account that got the wrong password. The problem was on our side, the issue was fixed and the accounts were replaced)



VV5IZew

(July 29, you reported the same issue over 2 weeks after we fixed it. Still, we provided a full replacement for the 198 accounts with no questions asked even though the order was out of warranty)

bC99rsx

(August 4, same exact issue with an order out of warranty. All of the accounts were replaced as well)

Again, you claim that there are no problem with your accounts YET YOU ARE EXPERIMENTING NEW METHODS. Seriously?

We are ALWAYS experimenting with new methods and trying to improve the quality of our products. You can surely notice the difference in the email addresses, the passwords and the accounts you've received. Even now we are experimenting with new batches, only the TESTED and successful ones end up on the website for sale.

After that you sent me 50 accounts to test. I checked them right away and THEY ARE DEAD OFF THE BAT. Then you realized you're fucked then suddenly resorted to the 30 day guarantee which is not even stated on your BHW BST just so you can get away with this.

The 50 accounts were not dead when we delivered them. Any staff member is free to check the quality of our accounts.

As for the 30 days warranty, it is not stated in the sales thread because it only applies to 2 of the 9 products listed in the thread. You will notice that each product has a different description, merging all of that information in a single thread would be impossible. You can keep claiming otherwise, but you've read the product's description when purchasing.

What you can find in the BHW sales thread is our refund policy, which is the following:

Refund policy:
  • We guarantee to provide a full replacement in a timely manner (48 business hours or less) in case of problems.*
  • In case we fail to provide a full replacement within 48 business hours, we will provide a full refund on the original payment method.
  • Upon request, we can provide a store credit that can be used on all of our products and services.

    *This warranty does not include problems caused by the customer, including but not limiting to:
    • Abuse of the platform's TOS
    • Use of bad quality IP addresses
    • Compromised devices and/or cookie profiles.
As shown in your screenshots, the accounts were disabled due to the abuse of the platform's TOS. Aside from the warranty time and your contradictions, your issue is not covered by the refund policy at all.

I even followed your suggestion to use HQ IPs with them even if they are expensive.

I highly doubt that. And even if you are using high quality IPs, please keep in mind they are only a portion of the setup. You need to take care of cookie profiles, browser fingerprint spoofing and the way you warm up the accounts before aging them.

pauTInv

Proof you were (and probably still are not) using proper proxies when logging in. It also proves the fact you logged into the accounts every single day.

As ive said. I can prove that around 6000 accounts more or less were still unused before they died.

I've already proved the fact you have at least logged into every single account. I can also prove the fact that all of the accounts were working perfectly before being delivered. Funny how over 2 months later all of your accounts die overnight, but all of our (and our customers') accounts are still working fine to this day, yet you can keep accusing us the issue is not on your end. There are dead accounts every day, every month. However, in over 2 years of business we never had to replace so many accounts to one single customer and we have customer that purchased WAY more accounts than you did.

Just like what you always do. NO ACCOUNTABILITY!

We are perhaps one of the sellers with the best customer service. Before we started creating our own account, I personally had to deal with dozens of corrupted seller that were either selling broken accounts and/or were not providing any kind of support after purchasing.

You didn't only receive HQ working accounts that YOU burned, you've also received plenty of replacements even when the issue was not on our side. If you are so unhappy with our products and service, perhaps you should have stopped purchasing months ago. Or even better you could just have improved your setup.
 
"I've already proved the fact you have at least logged into every single account. I can also prove the fact that all of the accounts were working perfectly before being delivered. Funny how over 2 months later all of your accounts die overnight, but all of our (and our customers') accounts are still working fine to this day, yet you can keep accusing us the issue is not on your end. There are dead accounts every day, every month. However, in over 2 years of business we never had to replace so many accounts to one single customer and we have customer that purchased WAY more accounts than you did."

You didn't prove anything. Where's the evidence? You're just proving them with your words like "OH NO ONE REPORTED THE SAME ISSUE ETC ETC" without any SOLID PROOF!

You know what? I can prove to the mods that 5000-6000+ of the accounts I purchased from you are untouched. Let's just cut the crap.

IF I CAN PROVE THAT THESE ACCOUNTS ARE NOT TOUCHED, NO LOGIN ATTEMPTS, NO ACTIVITY OR WHATSOEVER. ARE YOU GOING TO ISSUE ME A REFUND? THIS IS NOW A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!
 
Hi, I bought a few thousands of gmail accounts from @nopolice, if i remember correctly its around 9000+. He said the accounts will not die if not logged in for a long time, the accounts are bulltet proof. So I bought a ton of accounts in advance so the accounts will age before we will use them.
Their accounts are working great, however, one day all accounts that we're currently in use + a few more thousands that we're still aging, all died at the same time. ALL AT ONCE. I purchased a few more accounts on his website to check if their accounts that are currently for sale are still working. To my surprise, they are all dead as well. So it looks like google purged all their accounts. Recently he gave me a 50 accounts replacements to test that they just recently created. Guess what? All of them are disabled as well right off the bat.

Now he said he can't replace a large number of accounts because it will cost them a lot of money and the company will go bankrupt. he offered me a 300 replacement accounts and I rejected because I think its unfair.

Suddenly he came up with a "30 day warranty only" since he knew that my last 2 purchases were placed more than 30 days. I was asking him to replace my last 2 purchases which totals around 3000 accounts which werent even used yet. He kept on putting the blame on me that its due to my usage where in fact its pretty obvious that his accounts/method got patched by google and he even acknowledged it. He have a lot of inconsistencies on his reasoning and hes just trying his best to get away with it.

Link of the full conversation on telegram - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wTq3wYxtjVewfrrR8yy60oFnaqsx6LTR?usp=sharing
Link of his BST - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/g...l-accounts-starting-from-0-05eur-ins.1317835/
Did you find another source for pva accounts you like?
 
Has the nopolice responded cause i also have been scammed by him
 
Has the nopolice responded cause i also have been scammed by him
Nope. I just decided to move on. What a nightmare. Those very few accounts left that I initially purchased are also getting their passwords changed. Seems like he's reselling them. I just dont have the energy to complain anymore as it looks like this is getting nowhere.

If you have issue with this guy kindly contact the admins.
 
i fast cross readed the post, he probably used 4g proxies with desktop pc fingerprints. If they flagged the whole base like this.
 
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