Getting back to advertising on Google after suspension

[YoungB11]

Hi guys, I hope all of you are doing well.

I've been having problems with Google Ad accounts ever since I started trying to learn how to advertise with them this year. I'm trying to create a legitimate business into ecommerce doing dropshipping first to test my ideas and I just followed a few tutorials out there on YouTube and my account was suspended Initially... Being a noob I opened a second one using the same payment info and the rest is history as you may know...

I did my deep research on the subject, and even tho I have an overall understanding of why this happened and what can be done, I still can't make a successful account to advertise.

I've seen people using fake names to create those threshold accounts. Since this year, Google is sending identity verification requests to the advertiser. I don't want to complicate things further, I just want to keep using my real data of course as I want to build a legitimate business and I'm not willing to change my domain address every time.

I am from Spain so initially, my account and payment method here were flagged. I decided to not give up and opened an LLC in the USA.

I used VPS, Residential IP address, new Gmail, etc... Initially, under an MCC everything was fine and I was using the same Mercury credit card/payment profile for 3 sub-accounts created under that MCC (as per Google guidelines, this is the way to use one credit card with the same info for multiple accounts)

Then I opened a new account using the exact same process to test a new store and it was suspended for suspicious payment. I appealed, explaining the case and what I've been doing as per Google reps recommendation and the reply was a suspension of all the Ad accounts under this MCC. Those are accounts that were spending money and paying Google just fine before so I just can't wrap my head around this... All the appeals are coming back with the same negative response so at this point I thought about opening a new MCC to create new accounts using a new credit card (under the same mercury bank account. This time is a VCC because the physical one was flagged)

The process for the new account:

1. -New Gmail, new IP address (still matching the location of my registered business/billing address),
2. -New browser fingerprint (I used Dolphy Anty)
3. -New Credit card
4. -New domain of course

Result: I created the account and then, a day or two after went to create the first campaign. Just while I was creating the campaign, the account was immediately suspended for suspicious payment again... It didn't let me finish lol.
I then realized that the first 9 digits of my credit cards are exactly the same every time I create a new VCC on my Mercury account, so maybe that's how Google can link these payment methods to the same person and suspend you again.

I had to put the same billing address of course, but this time I paraphrased it a little bit (instead of "street" I used "st" and so on...) and the cardholder name is the same... Honestly, there are so many variables that I don't know where I'm messing up. I'm not sure at this point if using the MCC setup is a good idea at all and I'm just better trying to open regular Google Ad accounts each time instead.

Do you guys use any specific service or method to get new VCC and make them work on Google? I know that these are used many times just open the accounts, but I'd want to use them long-term as I don't plan to churn & burn accounts...

I know that this is a delicate subject that a lot of people are suffering from and there are a lot of good tips here in this forum but at the same time I know for sure that some people must know very effective ways to open new accounts/setting up payments...

I also know that no one who knows how to do it is going to share it freely but please, I just want to let you know that I'm very frustrated at this point and I'm willing to pay to learn more about this subject and how to do things properly.

Thank you so much, and sorry for the long post!

 

[Chris Newman]

Nowadays, to create a working GAds account or a working threshold Google Ads account, it is not just the ingredients (resources) that matters (means not only the IP, card, fingerprints, etc that matters), it is the method to create the account that matters, one of which (I repeat only one of which) is what is done when during and after the account creation, etc. Experiment different methods, please. Please take what I've mentioned positively, as it is a tip. Not everyone would share everything, and that is for obvious reasons. Campaign issues, most people share almost everything they know. Account creation methods tend to get saturated nowadays and some kind members still do share upto what they are comfortable sharing. I wish you all the best. If possible update here, so that me and a few others could try to help further as much as possible.

 

[adjuster]

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[YoungB11]

Nowadays, to create a working GAds account or a working threshold Google Ads account, it is not just the ingredients (resources) that matters (means not only the IP, card, fingerprints, etc that matters), it is the method to create the account that matters, one of which (I repeat only one of which) is what is done when during and after the account creation, etc. Experiment different methods, please. Please take what I've mentioned positively, as it is a tip. Not everyone would share everything, and that is for obvious reasons. Campaign issues, most people share almost everything they know. Account creation methods tend to get saturated nowadays and some kind members still do share upto what they are comfortable sharing. I wish you all the best. If possible update here, so that me and a few others could try to help further as much as possible.

Thanks for your reply Raj. I've been searching around in the forum in the last weeks and to be honest, your previous replies to other users have been very helpful and made me gain more perspective around this subject.

I've been thinking more in deep about what you have mentioned in other posts and now as well... that is more about "the creation method" than the IP, RPD, CC, etc.
So, for the method to create the account only a few things come to my mind now as these are practices that I've seen others theorizing or using before.

Account creation method

1. Creating the account without campaign, then let it rest for 24-48h before adding any payment method
2. Creating the account without a campaign, add the payment method right away, and waiting for 24 - 48 h before running any search ad.
3. Creating the account with a simple search campaign and letting it rest without adding a payment method
4. Creating the account, adding the payment method not in Google ads, but in Google payments. Then create the campaign (this was my last attempt, but it failed and got suspended while creating the account. Other variables may have played a role, I just don't know)
5. Creating a Gmail account. Gather cookies in the browser for 1 week before creating the Google ads account (I did this the first time successfully with my first USA MCC, but 2 months after I ended up with suspicious payment issues, who knows)

Payment method - As far as I know, there are 2 possible combinations here as per Google guidelines:

1. Same personal name or company name and different billing address for two or more accounts ( so, you can still have your personal name more than once as long as you have different billing addresses each time. I've got a little bit confused here, as I thought that your billing address and Gmail address should match)
2. Different personal name or company name for the same billing address for two or more accounts ( so you could use the same billing address multiple time as long as the cardholder name is different each time)

Yet, there are a few things I'm not clear about yet...

• Does the billing address need to match with my company address? If that's not the case... Could I use some random virtual address service as a billing address?
• Should the IP match my billing address at the moment of the account creation? That being the case, I'd have to choose an address that matches the residential IP that I got recently. Initially, I got one that matched my business address but I'm not sure at this point.

You said that is not only the ingredients that matter, and I watched a few past youtube tutorials of people saying that you shouldn't use new IP, RPDs or proxies when creating new Google accounts and I was like... WTF? This is the complete opposite of what everyone else has told me. Does this mean that changing your IP and getting a new browser is not important at all anymore?

As I'm very new to this game, my knowledge is very limited and only a few things and possibilities come to my mind right now... I guess that with more time and experience I'll get a bigger view of the picture at some point. I'm willing and committed to figuring this thing out not for scamming, gaming Google or doing anything illegal as this was never my intention, but to see if I could start my own online business selling some fcking jewelry or something.

These guys in Google are forcing normal and legitimate people like me to learn these dirty tricks and gaming their system just to advertise like normal...

Again thanks for your support and helpful posts here.

 

[YoungB11]

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Hey, thanks for the suggestion adjuster. I didn't think about it!

 

[neruyoun]

Doesn't matter if the VCC is from the same bank as long as the billing details are correct. If you use different VCC but with the same details registered on the VCC then you get suspended of course.

 

[ibrahimkekec]

Ah.. ADS realy very problemly todays

 

[YoungB11]

Doesn't matter if the VCC is from the same bank as long as the billing details are correct. If you use different VCC but with the same details registered on the VCC then you get suspended of course.

Hmmm... Then I'm pretty much screwed up right? Even If I open a new bank account with another service and get a completely new VCC, my billing address and name would be the same as to where my business is registered... (I can't lie and put fake data when applying for a bank account I guess lol)

 

[neruyoun]

Hmmm... Then I'm pretty much screwed up right? Even If I open a new bank account with another service and get a completely new VCC, my billing address and name would be the same as to where my business is registered... (I can't lie and put fake data when applying for a bank account I guess lol)

That's right.

 

[ali78691]

Hmmm... Then I'm pretty much screwed up right? Ethere is ven If I open a new bank account with another service and get a completely new VCC, my billing address and name would be the same as to where my business is registered... (I can't lie and put fake data when applying for a bank account I guess lol)

In reality whoever is saying that it's the problem of VCC. then these people have no idea how google treats vcc.
let me give you a straight answer. If you are successfully able to add the card to your google ads account then it means google accepted your card. and there is nothing wrong with the card. I used the same card multiple times and successfully ran accounts. so don't listen to those who say that VCC is banned or your bank account card is banned as long as you are able to add a card then that card is working fine. Work on your account creation method this is where most people don't focus and they keep trying to change cards which are not gonna help in any way.

 

[YoungB11]

In reality whoever is saying that it's the problem of VCC. then these people have no idea how google treats vcc.
let me give you a straight answer. If you are successfully able to add the card to your google ads account then it means google accepted your card. and there is nothing wrong with the card. I used the same card multiple times and successfully ran accounts. so don't listen to those who say that VCC is banned or your bank account card is banned as long as you are able to add a card then that card is working fine. Work on your account creation method this is where most people don't focus and they keep trying to change cards which are not gonna help in any way.

Wow ali, this is crazy. Literally, everything I've been reading and learning about the subject says that your CC/VCC is a very huge flag for suspension...

So let me ask you, if I have a credit card as a payment method that is being used on an account with "suspicious payment" and then I go and open another Ad account the right way with a good creation method this account would run just fine in this case? Even if the card has been used on one or multiple suspended accounts before? Knowing how Google link and tracks everything is hard to belive that, but hey... I'm not the expert!

 

[ali78691]

Wow ali, this is crazy. Literally, everything I've been reading and learning about the subject says that your CC/VCC is a very huge flag for suspension...

So let me ask you, if I have a credit card as a payment method that is being used on an account with "suspicious payment" and then I go and open another Ad account the right way with a good creation method this account would run just fine in this case? Even if the card has been used on one or multiple suspended accounts before? Knowing how Google link and tracks everything is hard to belive that, but hey... I'm not the expert!

that's right you can use the same card for a new account even if the previous account is suspended. Suspicious payment does not mean that your account is suspended because of card or billing details. there are people, including my self who use the same card for multiple accounts. so go ahead and work on the account creation method. Your card is fine as long as you are able to add in google ads.

 

[papoose5]

that's right you can use the same card for a new account even if the previous account is suspended. Suspicious payment does not mean that your account is suspended because of card or billing details. there are people, including my self who use the same card for multiple accounts. so go ahead and work on the account creation method. Your card is fine as long as you are able to add in google ads.

I have come across the account creation method being a reason for suspension quite a few times here in BHW, and I can attest to that.
However I'm myself struggling with having any Ads account running without always initially getting suspended for "suspicious payments". I do file an appeal, but most times I get rejected and some get approved to run ads normally.
If you could PM me and give me some tips on the creation method, I would be much obliged!.

 

[uaftmelo]

The account creation method counts almost nothing. Nowadays, everyone got Payment Suspicious; if you can't handle the payment suspiciously, the issue is not "the creation method" but the billing information.

 

[VitalyProkofiev]

Nowadays, everyone got Payment Suspicious;

not true

the issue is not "the creation method" but the billing information.

not true

The account creation method counts almost nothing.

not true

 

[adornoad]

The account creation method counts almost nothing. Nowadays, everyone got Payment Suspicious; if you can't handle the payment suspiciously, the issue is not "the creation method" but the billing information.

Totally false information ( as usual ) and others also attest to the same response as me.

 

[sp0oon]

I have had my AdWords account suspended recently and tried to dispute it but unfortunately they did not un suspend it. I need to use as words for my business so it's important that I get access to a new account soon. Mine wasn't flagged for payment issues it because of "circumvented systems". Ive tried to figure out the issue but had no luck.


I appreciate all the information in this thread as it's quite helpful. @YoungB11 do you have an update on what's working for you now?

Thanks

 

[nox.hitman]

The account creation method counts almost nothing. Nowadays, everyone got Payment Suspicious; if you can't handle the payment suspiciously, the issue is not "the creation method" but the billing information.

Nice tip lmao, also the website in your signature, I paid for your service and apparently you haven't responded back since 5 days, not to forget that I took the delivery in 8 hours package. Why are you allowed to put a website on your signature that is basically scamming people? I also sent you a message on telegram to which I got no replies but you read it. Care to clarify?

 

[uaftmelo]

Nice tip lmao, also the website in your signature, I paid for your service and apparently you haven't responded back since 5 days, not to forget that I took the delivery in 8 hours package. Why are you allowed to put a website on your signature that is basically scamming people? I also sent you a message on telegram to which I got no replies but you read it. Care to clarify?

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But this @Raj Kesu has something else to do except to hope that someone will shitlist me?

Besides, was an issue with @nox.hitman and all was fixed as usual.

 

[nox.hitman]

Besides, was an issue with @nox.hitman and all was fixed as usual.

Yes sir, we gucci! Thank you.