✈️ Scaling up to $20,000 month using free traffic | ⛔ Passive income on autopilot
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madacot233
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This has been discussed in his previous posts.
madacot233
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If you were to consider a new site to add a new module / bot. What would be the minimum user base size? I'm looking into doing a partial replication of your methodology, and the site chosen has ~2 million users. From what you've posted, it looks like you're sending ~21 million messages per month, so even if it ~10-20 messages per user was the average amount to get a conversion, I would quickly saturate the potential of the site.
So would you bother (assuming you was still motivated in this project) and when you hit scaling issues with this particular site - scale horizontally instead (more sites / modules)
So would you bother (assuming you was still motivated in this project) and when you hit scaling issues with this particular site - scale horizontally instead (more sites / modules)
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TL;DR: 50M and above monthly visits reported by similarweb.
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I chose a network that is oversaturated with other bots, automation, and stuff, just to prove myself I can do better than anyone else and earn on a platform that everybody else here considers a dead end. So my message count should not be an indicator, it's just pretty aggressive settings. Now, when I look back to my decision, it's pretty dumb one because if I would choose to start with any of the big social networks I would be earning x10 at least.
My only way is to scale horizontally now, yes, that is what I will be doing next month - by adding one of big social networks, probably tinder, twitter and Instagram. Or discord, because I have almost finished it.
The site I'm botting now has on average 50m monthly visits reported by similarweb. So it's pretty limiting but can make money if there is user rotation. And by rotation I mean for example tinder or any dating apps - they have constant people rotation thus even user base is smaller you can still bank hard. For bigger social networks it would be a bit harder to target your audience.
I run my stuff on a smaller site of similarweb reported 1M visitors as well, it's way too low to have any impact on my results tho.
And why stop with web. There are tons of apps that could be reversed and used to market stuff.
Possibilities are endless in this, sometimes my head starts to spin just by thinking about it.
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@madacot233 but if you have a site with very specific demographics and audience and you have an offer for this audience, then go for it, 2M live users with an as low as 0.1% conversion rate - it's 2000 conversions and if your sale value, for example, is $50, then it's $100k
madacot233
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The app is quite new, my estimate of its traffic would be ~10M/visits per month.
However, I think it's quite a good one to start with - opposite approach though undersaturated with bots, so no competition.
I'll use it to get a good project structure which scales + allows for more modules to be added easily.
As for user rotation, each user will use the site between 6-48 months but the duration of their usage will present opportunities for different offers.
The audience is specific enough where the conversion rate could potentially be quite high.
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Sounds great! Go for it! Create a journey thread, I would be interested to follow!
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What is your process on deciding the best approach for solving a particular problem? (E.g. choosing a particular language or framework for a project)
OccultKingdoms
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Would you say being just a software engineer is a better way to prosper than running a software company?
I have this dilemma since I've seen devs making almost as much as their CEOs, but it's a completely different role.
I guess the profit and success of such a business greatly depends on your approach and finding projects that will yield the most income.
It's kinda odd to see someone being more drawn to black hat business after almost a decade of running a white hat company. I'm saying this because I've seen $20k per month in revenue from software business, but it was some luck tho.
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Usually, I tend to rely on my past experience or gut feeling, if they are not helping - I do deep research of the subject. And by deep I mean it can take days of researching. Always considering all cons and pros slowly some final conclusions will take place. When choosing language or framework, one thing you should always consider is your own skills, because sometimes it's better to go for the wrong framework/language but if you feel very comfortable in it, especially if you are building your first prototypes of the project.
I would say - it depends. Are we talking about average engineering skills or person have top-level skills and abilities? Because it will matter when getting the best-paid positions. I would never get a job in a big engineering role as a dev, I'm not a good programmer. If a person wants to work 9 to 5, go on vacation once a year, and don't worry about anything, then being only a dev is a great choice.
But being a dev gives you a role that is controlled by others, thus your way of thinking and abilities to architect custom solutions gets limited, that is what we can see on this forum as well, here are a lot of devs but they are all clueless about what to build with their engineering skills. All they can come up is with the next SEO tool or keyword analyzer because they are just copycatting what they see around here.
If you run the company yourself, you will be constantly challenged by various business niches to find solutions to their problems. And you will be forced to do so on the fly in initial meetings because if you will not, they will choose your competitor who can. That in time will grant you a real-life superpower to analyze any business problem and you will be able to come up with at least one technical solution to it.
On other hand, being a CEO in a small tech company will give you a ton of other problems to deal with - and the biggest of them all is to manage other people. For some time you will become an accountant, HR person, analyst, QA specialist, architect, psychologist, friend, enemy, boss, coworker, and while you will be juggling with all those positions in you - you will have to be a marketing guru to find clients, best salesman and always sharp and ready to grind.
A well-known software development company in my country hired us as outsourcing, they could not pay a small bill of 3k for about 2 weeks. They are a 17-year-old business and still struggle with cash flow from time to time. It's not only about projects. You would constantly need to manage your workforce, for example - what would you do if all your devs are loaded with work but a good opportunity knocks on your door? Hire more devs? Postpone current projects and make them switch to this new project? Find outsource help? Decline the offer? All valid options but they will all bite you in the ass if something goes wrong. And believe me. Shit will hit the fan. On weekly basis.
software or software development business? 20k per month is terribly low even if you have a small team, it's like 2-3 devs, CEO, and an office(considering you are located somewhere in EU). It's possible to be highly successful in both tho, I have a few people that I know who run successful development agencies, they are doing good. Not great tho. I was not successful because I did not know marketing and in my understanding - I wanted to produce the best possible quality of work. It ended up constantly missing the estimations of the work. In this business - wins one that can deliver fast and does not care about quality because not a single client of ours did care about it either.
Agencies are easy to start but very, very hard to scale. Blackhat marketing is hard to start but very easy to scale.
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Hmmm, interesting, I'm having exact same problem w/ marketing services, I try to do good quality and nobody gives a crap so I feel more and more drawn towards blackhat...
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Mentioned multiple times. Currently I use imonetizeit.
masssinissa
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great post bro which social media do you focus on it ? youtube insta tiktok .... ?
madacot233
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None of the above, as mentioned previously
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Questions are irrelevant to my threads, if you are interested in how many instagram or facebook accounts you can run on a single proxy you should use common sense or search the forum.
For example - a household on avarage can have 3-5 people. If they all use facebook and connects to home router when using it from home then common sense would be to not use more than 4-5 accounts from a single dongle.
Another example - a small office space of 20 people, all use same residential internet when working from office thus have the same IP. They all browse Facebook on their work time. Does facebook bans them all because of that?