Is google sanbox real?
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cemsid
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Shaybib
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I don't understand why some of you guys think the sandbox is not real. They literally have the same thing implemented on YouTube and Google Play. Its called "shadow ban". The sandbox is nothing else than a shadow ban. What it does is: It prevents you from getting organic traffic for whatever reason. Some guys say its because they want to push you to use Adwords..which could be very possible. Others say they want to test your content, etc. first.
The principle is always the same. No matter where: If you have an authority site/channel/account your content will be pushed to the top automatically. This goes for Google (Wikipedia, Nytimes, etc.) for YouTube (recommended videos, etc.), Facebook, Instagram and also for the Google Play Store.
Btw. Facebook and Instagram have such sandbox/shadow ban as well. Its not a secret.
The principle is always the same. No matter where: If you have an authority site/channel/account your content will be pushed to the top automatically. This goes for Google (Wikipedia, Nytimes, etc.) for YouTube (recommended videos, etc.), Facebook, Instagram and also for the Google Play Store.
Btw. Facebook and Instagram have such sandbox/shadow ban as well. Its not a secret.
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Google sandbox is real , last 3 months to one year....usually for bad links and pleg contents
started way back in 2012
cemsid
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Ok thanks
It's been 3 months since I built my website. I produce really good content. I get backlinks. But somehow google doesn't rank me up. this is also annoying. I'm on the first page for some keywords. but I'm way behind on some keywords. I don't think I deserve this ranking.
this is my second site. That's what happened on my first site. then suddenly all my keywords came to the top. It would be great if I didn't get high on google because of the sanbox. Knowing this will be a motivation for me and I will continue my work. I have a psyche. I am having so much trouble. I see backlinks in my dreams.
cemsid
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ahrefs, semrush guru, screaming frog, I use them all. ahrefs 100, semrush 95, frog 100
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Try indexing your post/pages and you'll see that the sandbox DOES exists.
You wont rank until your post/pages are crawled by big G - simple as that.
You wont rank until your post/pages are crawled by big G - simple as that.
cemsid
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All my articles have been indexed. I'm not even in the top 100 for some keywords
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it's real, mate. I purchased a website in September last year (the purchase has come with unique logo and 10 articles) that I have totally forgotten about until 2 months ago when it started getting impressions. So, for 9 full months the website has been sandboxed
For some websites it's real, for others not so much. I've got no clue which metrics google base their sandboxing on, but for some websites it's real. If I were to guess I'd say that websites with thin and / or poor content are automatically sandboxed until they get improved, but I can't prove it. It's just a guess. But the sandbox is real, like I said
- May 8, 2012
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if you promote the site properly you usually can get it ranking in a matter of a few weeks. it all depends how a site is promoted. doesnt mean its a sandbox. its more like you could if you'd do it properly.
sure if the site is poorly done and not promoted it wont rank and might not even index. i know you cant trust google, but they also said there is no such thing as a sandbox. this is also nothing they would have to keep a secret so i guess they would admit if it was real.
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again, it's real! And just because google says it's not real doesn't mean they're right. Google are some of the biggest liars I've seen. And the reason they could lie about it is to avoid backlash from common folks who work, and work, and work on making content each day just for google to show them the middle finger and steal their content by putting snippets.
12-13 years ago I didn't have to promote any new domain name. I actually remember at some point (in 2010 I believe) that I've purchased 3 long-ass domain names (one of them was called ibosedockingstations.com and the other one was called surroundsound-systems.com), I slapped 20 and 30 PLR articles (yes, PLR as in NOT unique articles) on each website and within weeks I was ranking and making money with Adsense with those 2 very narrow niche websites, with PLR content. I even got the attention of a few advertisers and one of them had contacted me out of the blue offering me $25 per month to have their ad displayed on my website. I bargained and obtained a $50 per month price instead of $25 and this had lasted for 4 months until my sites have started slowly losing rankings because I wasn't doing anything with them.
But anyway, I'm digressing... the point is that a decade ago you didn't need to promote anything and your new domains would get rankings and traffic and sales on their own, without being sandboxed. Nowadays, like I already mentioned earlier, the same type of website (except that the content is unique this time, even if still poor quality because had been written by an indian dude who's very deficient in grammar) doesn't rank on its own from the get-go. Which means that it IS sandboxed.
12-13 years ago I didn't have to promote any new domain name. I actually remember at some point (in 2010 I believe) that I've purchased 3 long-ass domain names (one of them was called ibosedockingstations.com and the other one was called surroundsound-systems.com), I slapped 20 and 30 PLR articles (yes, PLR as in NOT unique articles) on each website and within weeks I was ranking and making money with Adsense with those 2 very narrow niche websites, with PLR content. I even got the attention of a few advertisers and one of them had contacted me out of the blue offering me $25 per month to have their ad displayed on my website. I bargained and obtained a $50 per month price instead of $25 and this had lasted for 4 months until my sites have started slowly losing rankings because I wasn't doing anything with them.
But anyway, I'm digressing... the point is that a decade ago you didn't need to promote anything and your new domains would get rankings and traffic and sales on their own, without being sandboxed. Nowadays, like I already mentioned earlier, the same type of website (except that the content is unique this time, even if still poor quality because had been written by an indian dude who's very deficient in grammar) doesn't rank on its own from the get-go. Which means that it IS sandboxed.
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If you blast too many links at your site right after you make it (I did this with the first site I built links for, made around 600 social, web 2.0s etc in the first month my site went online) then yeah you get sandboxed but it's not permanent...sometimes just a month (or three) of normal activity, blogging etc will get your site back in the results.
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the sandbox myth is older than 10 years ..i remember in like 2005 people already complained about it.
i dont see it. lately i just setup a new domain (no history i've checked) and it took 1 1/2 days to be indexed mostly with translated content so also not really original and after some promoting (i did all myself, spent $0). first i sent some mostly spammy backlinks automated with my own tool and then created some social media posts (mainly to get direct traffic). after about 8 days it already got traffic from google also bing and baidu and a few visits from duckduckgo. its like 12 days now and it has about 17 keywords in the top 20-30 of google. its also not just some long terms, its actually keywords with high search volume. of course not all of them, but some. now when i create new posts, they are usually indexed the next day, maybe 2.
so that being said, its just a matter of how you build and promote a site in order to get it indexed/ranked. if you dont do anything then it will take ages, which might seem like a sandbox effect.
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and that's the sandbox. Like I said (twice already) 12 years ago I did nothing to ANY new domain name and it would rank and make me money with just a few articles being posted. Nowadays, the same scenario doesn't rank = sandbox.
Anyway, I'm starting to repeat myself and I don't like it. Personally, I KNOW (not think, but know) that the sandbox is real. I've experienced it, so I know what I'm talking about. If you know differently, it's fine! I think google treats all websites differently anyway, so I think we are both right lol
TheOverlord
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Sandbox IS real, and it is very obvious when you have a large website with many pages. They will be hesitant to rank let alone index you for several months. For smaller websites, the ranking is the bigger issue.
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well you can guess that it exists, but you simply can't know without knowing the google algo and nobody does aside of the people in a closed circle at google.
so lots of things changed in the last decade and just because you need to properly promote a site, its not a sandbox as people who believe the myth usually say no matter what you do, new sites might not rank for weeks or months which is simply a false assumption. anyways if you want to believe that its real, its up to you. i couldn't care less, but saying its a fact is wrong, its just an assumption.
cemsid
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I know Google very well. And I informed myself a little about SEO. I didn't rank for 9 months on my first website. After 9 months, there was an incredible increase. All the articles I've written hit the ground running and rose day by day. I opened a new site. I chose keywords. competition is very low. When I look at it, my competitor's backlink strength is 0. Domain strength is 0, I produce good content from the top 10 ranks, but I am not even in the top 100 rank. You say you don't have sanbox. So, can you bring some light to this?