Scammed $100 by @apiseller

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solononforever

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@ApiSeller is claiming to sell -​


Real USA followers @ $11 per 1k - Yet I've not seen a single real follower, or US follower.

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And then the rare 0.1% of accounts that aren't asian or african are super lq fake accounts ~

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I can assure you that this represents the majority of the accounts. If you want to go through my entire followers list, i'm more then happy too.

This is my ticket with support:
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Note I contacted them, 10 minutes after placing the order when the followers started to come ~

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latest edit: And of course, they didn't cancel the order as I asked - so they can keep pumping this crap onto my followers list

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TLDR: The seller lied about the quality and country, to just over charge me. I deposited $110 in total, and would like my most recent payment of $100 refunded to my card - unless the seller can give me a fair explanation to what happened.


Sorry to have to waste mods time, but I'm so used to sellers on fiverr and here giving careless customer support ~ I know it will end up with a shit list regardless of the response from the ticket.
 

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So you did get a refund?

Didn't get a notification for some reason.

He refunded that order to the panel, however when I purchased it again he intentionally sent me the worst accounts and at a much higher volume to get my account banned.

I got around 2k followers like this.

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And then 5k NON USA followers, most of which had no followings, no posts. A large number of them had the same picture, and some of them where kids.

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First of all, I purchased 3k USA followers, and the amount and quality was just a huge shit on my brand.

I'm left thinking whether or not make a new account as my brand looks like a scam and that I'm probably waiting to get banned. I've already spent $500 on DMs/mentions on this account, and it has my exact brand name.

The seller doesn't give a fuck about support, he comes online once a day then leaves.

Response to my initial complaint after responded he denied sending me the wrong accounts + slow responses:
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0 Response to the latest issue:
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Result:
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Warning, do not use this seller.
I will give you an honest review of this service provider.
I have spent over 1K USD on YouTube like, and subscribers orders in the last 12 months.
To begin with, great service; the majority of orders stuck, minimal drops on views and subscribers.
The views took longer than quoted to be delivered, but they did arrive and the majority stuck.
The subscribers orders also took longer than quoted, but they did arrive and had minimal drops.
However since the June Algorithm update the majority of my orders for views were only partially delivered and refunded.
None of the subscriber services have worked since. Trust me, I have tested them all one by one.
Always cancelled, and refunded, after ticket opening, 3-5 days waiting, and the order not started.
Always with the "system overloaded" excuse.
The real problem is they haven't updated how they apply the subscribers since the algorithm update, so they drop.
Since the update a view has to be 30+ seconds, and the viewer needs to interact, a like, or comment, for the algorithm to count it as real.
The algorithm also wipes subscribers that haven't viewed, interacted, as above, as it recognises these are fake subscribers, not real viewers that subscribed.
What they are still trying to do is lump on subscribers and views, and the views keep dropping, and the subscribers keep getting wiped.
They will take some of your money for the partial delivery, and refund the balance.
I have now gone back to another service provider I used before, much more expensive; but they deliver what they advertise.
With this seller they have loads of views services, and subscriber services they just can't provide.
I hope the moderator opens a SL thread about this seller, and closes this thread.
I am lucky as I only stand to have burned my latest 100 USD balance that they won't refund.
I got the 1k USD of orders I placed over the last year before the algorithm update so I will just write off the 100 USD loss.
I know all the sellers have had problems since the June algorithm update; the difference is they deleted the services they now can't deliver.
This seller hasn't done that, still offering views, and subscriber services I know they can't deliver.
Believe me, if they could deliver I would happily spend another 1K with them. The truth is they can't, and they keep taking payments and don't refund them.
I hope my genuine review helps others avoid burning 100 USD like I have.screenshot.PNG
See screenshot of my latest 50 USD order placed 18th July 2021. Today is 1st August 2021, but 2K subscribers still remains on the order; it was never started.
Supposed to deliver 10-20 per day? No, what has happened is my subscriber number has dropped 200 since the 18th July. It should have gained 14 days x 10 or 20 per day.
That is 140 to 280 subscribers gain, not 200 loss in 14 days. Still waiting for my refund after 3 tickets of excuses. 100% non-drop subscribers? So how come my subscriber number has dropped 200 in the last 14 days then? That isn't 100% non-drop. It's taking 50 USD from a customer and not delivering the service advertised, then not refunding them.
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Shit List Request Approved
Information For The Accused @ApiSeller, you have 24 hours to respond to this shit list thread. If you do not respond within 24 hours or we note that you're engaging in any other activities on the forum rather than dealing with this dispute, the decision will be made in favour of the Shit Lister and you will be permanently banned from Black Hat World. In the event that you're permanently banned from the forum, you may send in a support ticket using our support channel only once you've refunded and/or provided what the plaintiff has requested. If your responses to this dispute do not remain prompt, your account will be banned.

Information For The Accused & The Shit Lister Please remain professional as name calling, insults, griping, tu quoque, and ad hominem will not be tolerated. Should the Shit Lister resort to this, the dispute will be forfeit; and if the accused resorts to this, the dispute will automatically be in the Shit Lister's favour. The moderator mediating this dispute is simply trying to fair a resolution to this dispute. Any mod abuse or accusations (e.g., "you're biased", "you're protecting scammers", etc) directed toward the moderator will not be tolerated and may result in an infraction for mod abuse.

Information For Other Members If anyone else has the same issue with the accused, you may respond so long as you supply evidence in the form of screenshots, videos, etc. Please bear in mind Shit List rule #4 before responding. "If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread. Anyone caught doing so will receive an infraction and be reply banned from posting in the thread."
 
Didn't get a notification for some reason.

He refunded that order to the panel, however when I purchased it again he intentionally sent me the worst accounts and at a much higher volume to get my account banned.

I got around 2k followers like this.

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And then 5k NON USA followers, most of which had no followings, no posts. A large number of them had the same picture, and some of them where kids.

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First of all, I purchased 3k USA followers, and the amount and quality was just a huge shit on my brand.

I'm left thinking whether or not make a new account as my brand looks like a scam and that I'm probably waiting to get banned. I've already spent $500 on DMs/mentions on this account, and it has my exact brand name.

The seller doesn't give a fuck about support, he comes online once a day then leaves.

Response to my initial complaint after responded he denied sending me the wrong accounts + slow responses:
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0 Response to the latest issue:
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Thank you for posting in detail with screenshots. I appreciate you taking the time to do this.
Dreadful experience, which has damaged your Instagram profile badly; so you have my sympathy.
I got refunded for my latest 50 USD subscriber order placed 18th July. It was never started!
I have placed my final order on a different service using the refund; and will never use APISeller again.
It's a shame to have to post a shitlist thread and threaten a service provider just to get refunded.
They are still advertising services on their panel they know they cannot provide.
I thought it was just YouTube services they couldn't provide after the algorithm update; but your case shows its also Instagram services too.
It comes down to this; advertising services, taking money for them, and not delivering what is paid for is scamming.
 
I also ordered from apiseller when i tested a bunch of panels, and order stuck like 60% of the time, youtube stucks always :D i dont know why
then you ticket them, waiting for a response, and after 7 days "Hey, it's a mini problem" still not working, but yeah not really a fully review as i dont spent 1k$ like u guys
 
Hi,

@solononforever i already refunded your orders after check and i accept refund your money 2 days ago when you asked.
Your balance refunded to your card, you will get to your card soon.




@Long Runs The Fox , we fixed your order already before you wrote here. Because you opened ticket and we fixed your order. And after refunded your order you write here and you placed new order and you told us; " if you completed quickly my order i will remove my comment on BHW" :) I replied your ticket please check.
 

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Hi,

@solononforever i already refunded your orders after check and i accept refund your money 2 days ago when you asked.
Your balance refunded to your card, you will get to your card soon.




@Long Runs The Fox , we fixed your order already before you wrote here. Because you opened ticket and we fixed your order. And after refunded your order you write here and you placed new order and you told us; " if you completed quickly my order i will remove my comment on BHW" :) I replied your ticket please check.

Can confirm he refunded.
 
@Long Runs The Fox , we fixed your order already before you wrote here. Because you opened ticket and we fixed your order. And after refunded your order you write here and you placed new order and you told us; " if you completed quickly my order i will remove my comment on BHW" :) I replied your ticket please check.
You have wiped my refund credit from my account.
I have given you my Paypal.
You replied saying you can't refund me via Paypal.
I have now given you my bank account details.
I have also given you my payment card details.
Can you refund me to my bank account?
Or can you refund me to my payment card?
 
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Update; APISeller has agreed to refund me to my payment card.
I will confirm this has happened when the funds clear in my bank account.
 
Update; APISeller has agreed to refund me to my payment card.
I will confirm this has happened when the funds clear in my bank account.

He'll need to state that in this thread as all he is doing now is hiding.
 
He'll need to state that in this thread as all he is doing now is hiding.
To show some goodwill I will post a screenshot of APISeller agreeing to refund to my payment card in the meantime.
Agreed, APISeller needs to state this in this thread himself.
The best way to resolve this is to refund all the orders that cannot be delivered.
And also delete all the services they can no longer deliver from their panel.
As it stands, many services on their panel are still available for purchase which cannot be delivered.
It shouldn't take threats of shitlist posting in support tickets to get a refund from a service provider.
However that is the reality with APISeller as the screenshots have shown.
Mistakes happen with orders, fair enough.
But when multiple customers start complaining of services not being delivered as advertised; and refund not given; then that isn't a one off mistake, its scamming.
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I sent 90$ to Apiseller's bank account mentioned for the category "JAZZ CASH"
The Screenshots have been attached with proof of payment. The cash has already been successfully sent by me and received by the bank account apiseller mentioned but they are denying that they got any money, infact they are saying they only received 5$ which is not true. I have called jazz Cash Helpline and they have confirmed that the payment has been successfully sent to the bank account which apiseller mentioned for adding funds in jazzcash category. There is an option in apiseller website for sending the TID code after sending cash to their account for adding funds into my account, so i provided the tid code which is the proof of payment again and again but still they are not admitting that they received the money. Infact they are Lying that they received only 1000pkr(5$) from me, which is untrue, because i have already sent them and attached the payment proofs along with the tid id which was sent to me in a sms text on my mobile by the JAZZ CASH Official Team, in which its clearly mentioned that i have sent 15000pkr to their bank account and the tid id is also mentioned in the message below. I shared all screenshots and messages but they are not accepting that they received cash, even after i have payment proof and the screenshot in which their bank account number is mentioned, the same bank account number where i have already sent the money successfully and the screenshot is attached. I have requested them for a refund again and again but they are not refunding my hard earned money. I have given them my bank details already and asked them to refund but they are not refunding. Payment proofs are attached. payment has been received by their bank account.
Im still waiting and hoping to get my money back. thanks !
 

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To show some goodwill I will post a screenshot of APISeller agreeing to refund to my payment card in the meantime.
Agreed, APISeller needs to state this in this thread himself.
The best way to resolve this is to refund all the orders that cannot be delivered.
And also delete all the services they can no longer deliver from their panel.
As it stands, many services on their panel are still available for purchase which cannot be delivered.
It shouldn't take threats of shitlist posting in support tickets to get a refund from a service provider.
However that is the reality with APISeller as the screenshots have shown.
Mistakes happen with orders, fair enough.
But when multiple customers start complaining of services not being delivered as advertised; and refund not given; then that isn't a one off mistake, its scamming.
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I do not care about goodwill; I care about SL procedures and as of now, this stands:


He'll need to state that in this thread as all he is doing now is hiding.
 
He'll need to state that in this thread as all he is doing now is hiding.
I am not hiding, @Long Runs The Fox 's one order stucked and we refunded in 24h, after we refunded he placed new order from different service but i canceled him order and i told him i will refund him balance. He already wanted me to complete the order, but since I didn't want to work with him, I made a return offer and refunded his money.
 

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I sent 90$ to Apiseller's bank account mentioned for the category "JAZZ CASH"
The Screenshots have been attached with proof of payment. The cash has already been successfully sent by me and received by the bank account apiseller mentioned but they are denying that they got any money, infact they are saying they only received 5$ which is not true. I have called jazz Cash Helpline and they have confirmed that the payment has been successfully sent to the bank account which apiseller mentioned for adding funds in jazzcash category. There is an option in apiseller website for sending the TID code after sending cash to their account for adding funds into my account, so i provided the tid code which is the proof of payment again and again but still they are not admitting that they received the money. Infact they are Lying that they received only 1000pkr(5$) from me, which is untrue, because i have already sent them and attached the payment proofs along with the tid id which was sent to me in a sms text on my mobile by the JAZZ CASH Official Team, in which its clearly mentioned that i have sent 15000pkr to their bank account and the tid id is also mentioned in the message below. I shared all screenshots and messages but they are not accepting that they received cash, even after i have payment proof and the screenshot in which their bank account number is mentioned, the same bank account number where i have already sent the money successfully and the screenshot is attached. I have requested them for a refund again and again but they are not refunding my hard earned money. I have given them my bank details already and asked them to refund but they are not refunding. Payment proofs are attached. payment has been received by their bank account.
Im still waiting and hoping to get my money back. thanks !
We given information to you. I don't have any Pakistan Bank account because i am not Pakistani and i am not live in Pakistan.
@BassTrackerBoats please help me about this person i told him but he not understanding me; i sending all proof about him payments.


We received only 10$ from this person and him balance added auto already, we don't have any bank account. He can contact to Cashmaal LTD
 

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We given information to you. I don't have any Pakistan Bank account because i am not Pakistani and i am not live in Pakistan.
@BassTrackerBoats please help me about this person i told him but he not understanding me; i sending all proof about him payments.


We received only 10$ from this person and him balance added auto already, we don't have any bank account. He can contact to Cashmaal LTD
please dont lie ! i told you 1 million times that i sent the payment through YOUR Website category of JAZZCASH, and The official JAZZ CASH has sent me a text message that the payment has been delivered to your bank account, the payment proofs are attached. You are returning everyones money except for mine, what is the reason? The money has been Successfully sent to the bank account mentioned in your Apiseller website and i have attached a screenshot of your Website page as well in which your bank account number can be seen, on the 2nd screenshot im sharing the receipt of 15000 pkr which is sent to your bank account and the TID number is also mentioned at the top, YOUR BANK Account number and The Receivers Name is also mentioned , the name is "BILAL AHMED SAEED" , and this is a muslim name. I dont care if you are Pakistani , indian or whoever you are, I have sent the receipts of payment that is successfully sent to your bank account. I need a refund as soon as possible. You guys are looting people in the name of an Smm Panel?
I Have Sent 15000 PKR and Its TID CODE , and your website is showing an ERROR that i only Sent 1000rs. The Website is in Your control, you did not admit that you have received the 15000pkr cash , And on TOP of that you sent an ERROR message asking me to Go to Cashmaal App to get the deposit back, but the News is that i DID NOT use CashMaal to Send money, i Used JAZZ CASH ,and i am AGAIN Attaching all the Screenshots of Payment Proofs that the 15000pkr payment has already been sent to your account, how can you deny even after seeing the Proof ? the receipts are infront of you. when i started to ask you for a refund , you denied and changed the bank account information from your website, you changed it from Meezan bank to a new bank named Allied bank. It keeps changing in the same jazz cash category which is wrong ! Apiseller website had a meezan bank category for jazzcash and i sent the amount on the account your website mentioned. the Proofs are attached. Its clearly stated that the payment has been sent. Jazz cash helpline also confirmed that the payment has been successfully sent to you.
 

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and i would also like to inform that the very first time i added funds to the apiseller website , i added 5$ "Through the SAME METHOD" , and it was Successfully Deposited in my Account and showed a balance of 5$, which were added to try Youtube views But Later Decided to Add the 90$ itself, Huge amount , to buy the 4000watchtime and subscribers even before Trying out the website because i was in a Hurry! The 5$ ur talking about again and again are the previous funds i added.
Please talk about the 90$ i added AFTER that 5$.
The Main issue is about the 90$, and now i want a refund after you denied to add my money in my account.
 
Upon receiving the error that i sent only 1000pkr to your website , i tried adding 5$ to see if the add refunds still works and 5$ was added, resulting in total 10$ in my account. ever since then i have been trying the TID code a million times to get my money added in my account but you are showing the same error again and again, even though i have already sent the payment proof.
the problem is not coming from the cashmaal ltd app because i did not even touch it to send the 90$,
i sent the money through JAZZ CASH mobile app, and i have already shared the payment proof receipt.
now what should be done? i have also sent you my bank account details to refund, but my money is lost i think you dont want to return.

ALSO i would like to mention another thing, in the struggle of trying to have my money added in my apiseller account by sending tids and then hearing apiseller denying it, i also bought subscribers from the 10$ in my account, order number 2961965, and till now the process has not even started after more than 12 hours ! i need a refund for that as well.
i have NEVER faced such issues EVER in my Life with Any Panel i tried ever ! i have tried many! but never ever lost my money like this!
 
I am sorry but we wasn't receive this payment if we receive already balance will be added auto.
Please contact to Cashmaal LTD for this payment, because on my Cashmaal Account i see only two payments ( 5+5)
 

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