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How many links would you think is an acceptable/decent amount for monthly rental PBNs?
AMA about PBNs (setup, footprints, things to avoid, et al.)
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- Jan 10, 2011
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What do you mean exactly? OBL on the sites? Or links to your site?
The price you pay really depends on the power of the domains, the OBL, the setup of the PBN and the thematic relevance of the domains.
But as a guideline:
- For a clean PBN link (homepage) from a site with DR5-DR20 and 30-60RD i'd probably pay between $5-15 /month
- For a clean PBN link (homepage) from a site with DR30+, 100RD+ i'd probably pay $20-50 / month - these are typically low-level auction domains.
- For DR50 and 500+RD i'd probably ask for a one-time static link for $500-750 (one off). But usually you won't find these domains in any PBN, as there are a ton of better ways to use them.
Complement them with decent link insertions, guest posts, digital PR pieces (editorials, HARO, guestographics), some branded web 2.0s and citations (e.g. social, video, image, directories) and you're off to a good start for your site.
the1aquemini
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One more question, if I pick up a domain that is not indexed would you think its better to rebuild the internal link structure through 301s to the new content I have made for it OR is it better to straight up copy the old html version of the site from archive and let it re-index like that before I make the changes I want in terms of content?
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The way we do it:
We rebuild the inner pages and add fresh content to the page right away. We very rarely copy old archive content, as copyright laws are quite strict here in Europe.
the1aquemini
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Ok cool, would you be considering like old internal links that were present on the site previously? Or would you just simply sort of check ahrefs for what internal pages on the site have backlinks pointing to them then mimic those/301 them to new pages?
Are there any good plugins for checking internal links from html?
(Sorry for picking your brain so much bro all help is appreciated)
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seowarrior008
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Hey man, thanks for this thread still open.
I am wondering how to deal with those old backlinks? Will you reindex them? or don't touch them at all, but build new ones??
thanks
I am wondering how to deal with those old backlinks? Will you reindex them? or don't touch them at all, but build new ones??
thanks
seowarrior008
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I have one more question if u don't mind answer.
I recently rebuilt two expired domains and put some spun but very readable content on there.
In the first few days, these posts were indexed quickly. However, after two weeks, G starts to deindex them. Saying, only 3 - 4 posts out of 10 remain indexed in G, after two weeks.
I am curious of how to explain this scenerio？
Does this imply the expired domains I acquired are bad or the quality of my posts is low??
Thank u in advance
I recently rebuilt two expired domains and put some spun but very readable content on there.
In the first few days, these posts were indexed quickly. However, after two weeks, G starts to deindex them. Saying, only 3 - 4 posts out of 10 remain indexed in G, after two weeks.
I am curious of how to explain this scenerio？
Does this imply the expired domains I acquired are bad or the quality of my posts is low??
Thank u in advance
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Yes, we rebuild the inner pages that have links pointed at them to utilize the link equity. We also add internal links to the homepage on those pages.
If the link is not indexed anymore, we will try to re-index it, if it's worth the while. Usually the domains we go for have solid links that are still live and indexed.
I have one more question if u don't mind answer.
I recently rebuilt two expired domains and put some spun but very readable content on there.
In the first few days, these posts were indexed quickly. However, after two weeks, G starts to deindex them. Saying, only 3 - 4 posts out of 10 remain indexed in G, after two weeks.
I am curious of how to explain this scenerio？
Does this imply the expired domains I acquired are bad or the quality of my posts is low??
Thank u in advance
First mistake: Spun content. I personally would not use it on a good expired or PBN domain. Never.
Try again with unique (at least half-decent) content and see where you end up.
GustavoFung
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Is there any way for Google to identify that the sites being handled are all connected and deindex them all if there is a link between them?
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For sure.
Just take Build My Rank or ALN (2012 OG's will remember...) for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20120322185118/http://www.buildmyrank.com/news/its-been-a-great-run
That's why you want to avoid as many footprints as virtually possible.
JapaneseBillionaireSeo
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Hi!
This thread is the best one I have found about PBN!
I'm creating my PBN right now and I dropcatched domain I want to use.
However, when you use dropcatch, the domain will be registered in namebright.
I tried to move it but they have 60 days lock.
do you think changing the name server to registrar like name, dynadot, etc, will be okay?
Or do I need to wait 60 days so i can transfer the domain to reputable registrar?
This thread is the best one I have found about PBN!
I'm creating my PBN right now and I dropcatched domain I want to use.
However, when you use dropcatch, the domain will be registered in namebright.
I tried to move it but they have 60 days lock.
do you think changing the name server to registrar like name, dynadot, etc, will be okay?
Or do I need to wait 60 days so i can transfer the domain to reputable registrar?
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Yes. If possible, move it as soon as you can from your dropcatch provider to Dynadot.
bournemarketer
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I have a network of about 800 city based lead gen sites in the same niche. These are all 100% unique IPs, templates, and content. Not only do I need to pass some link juice but I would like some anchor diversity and referring domains across the network. I have had good luck buying high quality PBN's but if I make a massive invesment I want control and not worry about losing the links. Also I could dedicate my PBN's to just one niche so the relevancy would be higher. How would you go about linking out to other sites? Do you think it would be safe to link out to 20 different sites randomly and also mix in some empty relevant posts with no links? If not what would the strategy be? I've been browsing domains and think I can find high quality ones in the $200-500 range so that's not a problem. Also thanks for the great ama, I spent the last few hours searching google and this was the best I found.
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Not really a fan of using money sites as PBNs. But if you still want to use it and the sites really have no footprint in common, I guess you can go for it. Risky move, but might pay off.
What is the minimum budget for a network of 10 pbns?
For 10 sites with some decent expired domains (not the best, not the worst) - i'd say $300-400 per PBN site. For auction domains, I'd ballpark it at $1k+ per domain.
Impossible to answer. Every niche and keyword is different. For low local niches, a handful of PBNs might do the trick.
ANewBeginning
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I'm thinking of using dropped domains to use them as pbn. Have you registered them in the past for your pbn and how well did they work?