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please, tell me are you a direct provider or a reseller?
please, tell me are you a direct provider or a reseller?
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We are a direct provider. We don't own the influencer accounts we work with, but we have a number of creators with who we have a previous relationship and are vetted by us.
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Please check your inboxes, and let me know if you need more information.
How is this different compared to just buying a shoutout from some Onlyfans girl with X amount of subscribers besides the fact that you charge 4x the price of what the average Onlyfans girl charges? Isn't that what you're doing, simply reselling shoutouts with a 4 times higher price? There are hundreds of Telegram groups where girls sell their shoutout services.
EDIT: Also regarding the faked photo ( https://prnt.sc/133cmof ) in your thread, 8-9k monthly onlyfans revenue is not top 0.1%, it's top 1%.
EDIT: Also regarding the faked photo ( https://prnt.sc/133cmof ) in your thread, 8-9k monthly onlyfans revenue is not top 0.1%, it's top 1%.
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Firstly, sorry for the late reply. To answer your questions:
- How is this different than buying from a creator directly or on Telegram?
Compared to a reputable forum like BHW, there are many risks involving purchasing from a creator on Telegram, Instagram, or Facebook.
- Firstly there aren't many (if any) rules, regulations, or even a tiny bit of governance on the previously mentioned outlets. It usually takes quite a considerable amount of time before a scammer is exposed and banned from the platform.
- Secondly, alongside the questionable services (that might or might not be legal,) there isn't a good way of verifying that whether the seller delivers or not. I've purchased an SEO service from a reputable seller on Telegram (who had many vouches under their belt.) After verifying what he had delivered, I've discovered the backlinks were way worst than the sales pitch. So I politely asked them to remove the backlinks, and to my absolute disbelief, he asked for $100 to remove them while threatening to increase the quantity and destroying my website. There goes my $100, but lesson learned unless proven otherwise doing business with a Telegram seller is gambling. The seller is still active on most markets continuing to do their shady business and scamming people of their money. With that said, let me get to the last point of this answer.
- If our company sells a promotion here, and the creator removes it right away, doesn't share it in the first place, or any other issue, we instantly get a bad review and potentially end up on the shitlist. So compared to other social outlets, the clients have way more protection here on BHW.
- Firstly there aren't many (if any) rules, regulations, or even a tiny bit of governance on the previously mentioned outlets. It usually takes quite a considerable amount of time before a scammer is exposed and banned from the platform.
- You said that we allegedly charge 4x the fee of other sellers. I can understand your point of view. However, it's not the case here. Indeed, our profit margins are super tight due to the following reasons:
- We have tested and vetted hundreds of creators over the past couple of years. We've spent a lot of money on many, from individuals on Twitter up to invite-only creator groups on WhatsApp, so our clients don't have to go through such a money-burning process.
- Also, we offer management contracts with creators who have potential. We grow them, then buy shoutouts from them, helping them grow even to way better numbers, and let's be honest, it's not a cheap process. There are many manhours put into this business, and I'm not going to let anything ruin it, so I'll continue to provide the highest possible quality to my clients.
- Finally, the creator economy is "The Wild Wild West," and we've designed our services in a way that protects our clients from scams in many different ways. In short, this means we are testing new creators every day, do follow-ups with our signed models, keep up with clients, implement new software, and even feed four families along the way.
- We have tested and vetted hundreds of creators over the past couple of years. We've spent a lot of money on many, from individuals on Twitter up to invite-only creator groups on WhatsApp, so our clients don't have to go through such a money-burning process.
Albeit I have a strong belief that you weren't interested in purchasing our service in the first place, but if you were and you were skeptical about it, or you knew someone who can provide the same service or better with less price, good for you. I wish nothing but the bests on everyone's journey, and I hope you won't get scammed in the process.
Finally, about the "faked" earnings statement in our sales thread design, there are two things worth mentioning:
- First, to summarize the backstory:
The creator was in the top 0.1% when we asked for a screenshot. However, as soon as we've asked her for permission to share it, she denied it almost immediately. After a day or two of communication, she finally agreed to grant the requested permission as long as we reduce the numbers (which I'm not going to lie, I could get from my profile statement as well without going through all of this trouble.) I believe we forgot to update that specific number while we were doing the design.
- Then about our contractual standpoint, we are not allowed to share the earning statement from the creators who we sign (this is a part of our contract and the NDA, which is signed right before the main one) unless we have either oral or verbal agreement to do so. Considering the number of scams occurring within our industry, we are not interested in sharing such information nor publicizing our earnings in any way.
Thanks again for your questions, I wish I'd answered them in a way that was satisfactory.
Best of luck, and have a wonderful day!
Can you elaborate on this question?
You are telling me that you have tested and vetted hundreds of creators and their shoutout services for YEARS but have no idea what the top 0.1% earnings look like and blaming it on the design and telling me that the only proof in your thread was a design mistake? Shoutouts on Onlyfans wasn't even a thing 2 years ago and you're talking about YEARS... 2 minutes of Googling will give you plenty of Telegram groups where Onlyfans creators are selling shoutouts for at least half your prices and they all have reviews and results, while you on the other hand posted fake proof. Back to my question, how is this different compared to just buying a shoutout from some Onlyfans girl with X amount of subscribers besides the fact that you charge 4x the price of what the average Onlyfans girl charges because I would be more than interested in buying your service if you could state benefits?
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Clients want results, and if results are poor, they will give bad reviews, open a shitlist thread here or even demand a refund.
About your other statement that shoutouts were not a thing two years ago, I am not trying to be sarcastic, but have you been sleeping under a rock of some sort?
Firstly, we would love NOT to have you as a client as your actions seem to be an advertisement for a service you might be promoting here, and your only clear goal is causing trouble in our thread...
To my knowledge, you have written directly on our sales thread and never made effort privately contacting us,
I highly doubt you were interested in placing an order with us. You said you have sources you are satisfied with, but now you say you want to be a potential customer? or did you just made that part up to use it as an excuse for high jacking the thread? I would say if you were interested, this is not the best way to approach a seller you claim you want to potentially work with?
Also, I do not find any good reason to share our case studies in public. We did this with admins and people who contacted us privately.
If you had sent a message, that would have been a different story, but I do not think you were interested in actually seeing case studies.
You were trying to prove a point based on thin air. Since we have gone through a review process, we have presented a live case study before being able to post a thread here.
Final point, as you have asked the same questions two times in a row. Let me answer this more clearly:
What is the difference between ordering from a Telegram marketplace and a verified vendor on a reputable forum like BHW?
The difference is on TG, there are no regulations, and it is super easy to fake reviews. You will not get banned from TG cause it is not a tightly moderated platform like BlackHatWorld. It is just a messaging application.
Then you keep predicting our profit and asking how much our profit is?
The fact that we can earn profit seems to upset you?
Same basic 6th-grade info:
Every business in the world needs to make a profit, and no one on planet earth owns an explanation or is obligated to tell some random person how much profit they make.
If we want to apply your logic here, why not posting on all sales threads asking how much is their profit per sale?
Who not ask the SMM panels if they are reselling?
Why are you not saying you know their profit is 4x of their costs? Maybe more, or maybe less?
If you want an answer: No, we do not earn 4x on top of prices! It is a lot less, but again, It is none of no one's business; because clients do not share losses, refunds, previous investments, or time sacrifices, before finding the right agency.
PS: this is the last time I reply to your assumptions. I prefer to help actual clients or creators than actually wasting time and energy on trolls that try to highjack the thread, that never had the intention to purchase anything in the first place.
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Unfortunately, I cannot understand your question completely. If you mean whether we use Twitter for promotions or not, the answer is no. Your OnlyFans profile(s) will be promoted to premade fanbases, rather than creating a new one on Twitter; however, if you have a custom inquiry, please let us know by sending a message here.
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