Preon
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Source?
How do these symtoms compare to the placebo?
How do they compare to the general population with no vaccinations?
How do they compare to people taking aspirin or eating cabbage?
The Vaccine & Pfitzer: Did you know?
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How do these symtoms compare to the placebo?
How do they compare to the general population with no vaccinations?
How do they compare to people taking aspirin or eating cabbage?
Preon
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Source for that?
There's no evidence to support that claim?
Vaccination shedding is a thing but it normally results in the vaccinated version I.e. the weakened version being spread. Although it's extremely rare.
jake lionar
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That’s because the Pfizer and Moderna trials tracked only how many vaccinated people became sick with Covid-19. That leaves open the possibility that some vaccinated people get infected without developing symptoms, and could then silently transmit the virus — especially if they come in close contact with others or stop wearing masks.
If vaccinated people are silent spreaders of the virus, they may keep it circulating in their communities, putting unvaccinated people at risk.
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https://www.business-standard.com/a...-to-wear-masks-here-s-why-120120900173_1.html
and why do uu need always some one to tel you what is right what is wrong just use brain,
Preon
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The problem is anti vaxx sentiment is almost always based on lies, or data thats been misrepresented.
For example, Andrew Wakefield is still a prominent figure in the anti vaxx world, despite his studies being debunked. He literally made stuff up to fit his narrative while at the same time being paid by a lawyer who wanted to sue vaccination companies.
Preon
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Again, it's just speculation. There's no evidence to support that statement either way.
jake lionar
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the only evidence you need is take the vaccine and see if it is true or not
cause at the end it is all talk
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This info incorrect
The majority of the public in the UK are against the Pfitzer Vaccine
15% uk said no only...
This is correct but you have a second shot to get the full effect of 95% success rate.
Oxford are one of the best in the world and decided to go with tried and tested vaccine technology which only yielded 60%
And yes I will be getting the vachine I want to live and not be locked in forever.
Also it right to say the 15% that are against the vachine are putting others at risk, so the government are going to issues papers of those that have had the vaccine, and stop none vachine users, using government services, like transport, bus, trains, travel abroad and other, it all coming...
The vachine needs everyone in it to get out of this mess full stop.
That all I am saying about this as you many people talk shit. (very argumentive conversation ))
Everything I have said was from the uk government WHO and professionals and sky news...
90-year-olds and doctors and nurses are the first to get injected and then it old people homes etc etc etc.
Hopefully, uk will be back to normal via April 2021 if everybody just gets on with it.
50% of stock for the vachine is being stored as it used for the 2nd shot to increase the success rate of 95%.
Also been said within 2 years of having the shot we might need top-ups as time goes on to keep the covid at bay.
The best part is the vachine research has open other doors to other disease we already got to improve them as well.
The majority of the public in the UK are against the Pfitzer Vaccine
15% uk said no only...
This is correct but you have a second shot to get the full effect of 95% success rate.
Oxford are one of the best in the world and decided to go with tried and tested vaccine technology which only yielded 60%
And yes I will be getting the vachine I want to live and not be locked in forever.
Also it right to say the 15% that are against the vachine are putting others at risk, so the government are going to issues papers of those that have had the vaccine, and stop none vachine users, using government services, like transport, bus, trains, travel abroad and other, it all coming...
The vachine needs everyone in it to get out of this mess full stop.
That all I am saying about this as you many people talk shit. (very argumentive conversation ))
Everything I have said was from the uk government WHO and professionals and sky news...
90-year-olds and doctors and nurses are the first to get injected and then it old people homes etc etc etc.
Hopefully, uk will be back to normal via April 2021 if everybody just gets on with it.
50% of stock for the vachine is being stored as it used for the 2nd shot to increase the success rate of 95%.
Also been said within 2 years of having the shot we might need top-ups as time goes on to keep the covid at bay.
The best part is the vachine research has open other doors to other disease we already got to improve them as well.
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Daddykins
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If they gonna force us taking the vaccine, for example, travelling will require you taking the vaccine, then unfortunately me and many more will have to do this
Hopefully secondeye comes out with covid vaccination docs
AAW
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No true, we don’t know the reactions and they are lying about everything to get people take this vaccine.
some people developed Bell’s palsy which is the facial nerve paralysis and this is so obvious to be noticed.Imagine the other things that people have not noticed YET!
if this vaccine will protect you for 3 months, it makes no sense to take it. It’s not like Polio vaccine that is a lifetime vaccine.
Airlines are pushing for this vaccine to save their a** and many others too. Similar story for the mask, we all know the mask alone does not protect us if we are touching surfaces like doors and groceries check outs or eating out ... there are people who are already infected but don’t know it and touching surfaces and going to work ( like restaurants) and infecting others.
This vaccine is like the flu one, it only works for few months, the difference is: the flu one has been there for many years and they have updated it tons of time, this new vaccine however is claimed to come from human male fetuses that are between 2-3 months age! I wonder how did they make these human fetuses and why do we have to take a human genes as a vaccine?
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Life is what you make it and unfortunately, illness will always be here.
Without vachine there, no way out and yes there always be an unlucky sod get side-effects but unfortunately there no other way out this covid.
Remember million are living with covid and surviving only the strongest will survive.
Life sorry.
There hundreds of killing illness in the world covid only one.
If you look at all the illness around the world your be surprised how many there are.
Very scary at least we getting Some where with a vachine.
Cancer patients would love a 65% shot then a second shot 95% to live bless them .
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If we look back on the history of medicine there were many scientific researches that later turned out to be scandalously wrong. e.g. even though humans have consumed them for thousands of years, for decades, saturated fats were said to be unhealthy. Today we know that this is not the case. There are countless examples like this. This vaccine has not withstood the test of time, we can only hope we will not end up with a permanent problem just to avoid the possibility of a temporary disease.
jake lionar
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lets hope they dont
donaldfoster
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if its not safe why did the government allow it for mass consumption?
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Do you think that vaccines have the potential to be harmful?
(Obvious answer is yes they do)
So being concerned about taking something that could be harmful seems like a fair response to the situation. Anti-vaxxers are just people that have formed very strong opinions against vaccines. Some people may be wildly misinformed. Some may have looked into information that you haven't. Saying that anyone that is inherently against taking vaccines have been lied to isn't true. There have been a lot of cases of vaccines causing people harm.
It's worth understanding the risks before taking them, especially with a vaccine for a completely novel disease that has been trialed in 1/4 of the time a normal vaccine should be trialed.
Who's the misguided one - the person that is worried about taking covid vaccines right now, or the people that will be at the front of the queue with a smile of their face? You don't have to be an anti-vaxxer to think this sounds risky af.
Jesus. You think everything that's legal is good for us? Plenty of unhealthy chemicals + unhealthy foods + smoking/vaping are allowed for mass consumption. The government doesn't have your best interests at heart a lot of the time.
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You too?
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This is where it gets complicated and argumentative.
Everybody immune system different how anyone going to no unless they try because the way it going covid could kill you anyway.
What you going to do, go every day outside with an oxygen tank to live a normal life.
Whoever you are when your time up it up no stopping it just happens.
donaldfoster
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i maybe wrong but i think you cannot compare a vaccine that too in a pandemic with unhealthy foods, smoking etc. I dont think government would take chance of allowing a vaccine for mass consumption in the pandemic.
Dhaval750
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People will eat shitty junk food and coda drinks without a second thought. And they are all fired up about vaccine which is tested in 3 trials by hundreds of scientists. Nice!
People need to understand that virus and vaccine is basically same shit. Vaccine is just weak version or just a part of that virus.
Also dont take vaccine if you dont want, though the government will force people to take it eventually.
Btw I am just afraid of the needle of the vaccine.
Also there is a rumor that virus is causing long term effect of erectile dysfunction. Can anybody confirm it with any trusted source?
People need to understand that virus and vaccine is basically same shit. Vaccine is just weak version or just a part of that virus.
Also dont take vaccine if you dont want, though the government will force people to take it eventually.
Btw I am just afraid of the needle of the vaccine.
Also there is a rumor that virus is causing long term effect of erectile dysfunction. Can anybody confirm it with any trusted source?