Analysis - Cold traffic with 1,000 IG DMs

Kama471

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Hi everybody!

I've been doing Clickbank affiliate marketing in the past for almost a year, where I managed to land around 5 sales with different techniques, however, it was all chaos and I ended up quitting completely because I only made around $50/month with a lot more effort, sometimes 12h/day and it was too tiring for how much I earned. Lately, I said let's give it another try and I came with a brilliant idea.

Instagram DMs
I knew about this before, and I tried it but most of the time it didn't work. After ~30 DMs, I would get action blocked for at least 3 days. I have 3 Instagram accounts, all of them are 3+ months old and I don't know if it's a bug or a new feature, but I was able to send a total of 1,000 DMs in one single day from only 2 accounts. Every time I sent a DM, I tapped the space bar so I could count easily.

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I was promoting some law of attraction offer from clickbank, where they would offer a free soul reading. They have to introduce their birthday and they find out what type of soul they are - after that, they are forwarded to a more in-detail and personalised reading which costs $14. I wrote a simple message that interacted with them, but I think it looks more like a bot or spam message.

The DM looks like this:

"Hello! I've been following the law of attraction for a while now and I saw you're pretty active in this topic. Would you like a free soul reading? I'm a dream seeker soul, how about you?" <link>

This link led directly to the offer. No landing page or anything else. Personally I consider that a landing page would lower the clicks to the direct offer, because it's just too much to do for a client. I can barely get them to my LP, then I have to filter them again in order to redirect them to the product which already has a page that explains everything in-detail. I also don't need their emails. I want to make quick money even if it's little, like $200-$300/month because that is enough for now. I don't need to spend 5 years developing a website or an email campaign and then cash in the big buck after.

Now, let me tell you about the process. Sending 1,000 DMs is very tiring, both mentally and physically. Yes, physically aswell because your fingers go numb after a while. I had the message copied to clipboard and I was looking for people in the comment section of a relevant post. It took me 3 seconds per DM, after a while I would do it automatically without even thinking what I'm doing, guess I developed some muscle memory there. I was going all-in for one hour, then take a pause for another 2 and I guess it took me around 4-5 hours to do it all. However, after 600 DMs, I started to get the ''failed to send'' error and I noticed I can still send messages, but the link was the problem. I then switched accounts and finished the rest of 400 messages. Today, 24 hours later, I can still send the link from my first account, I don't know yet if I'll get limited again because today I was busy.

The audience is not that diverse. Whoever is in this niche already knows. Most of them are middle aged moms who claim to be descendants from the stars. Lots of ''mother of 2'' or ''queen of 3'' in the bio, lots of emojis and just the type of anti-vaxxer moms that you heard about. This saddens me, because they seem to dominate this niche and they are super into spirituality, astrology, horoscope and healing stones. The law of attraction is real and it works for everyone, but unfortunately it is because of these people that others don't believe in it, the Karens and they lavish lifestyles and destiny stones and whatever. Anyway, they got the money, you just need their interest. Second row of audience is occupied by indians, now those are random but I won't get into detail. 70% of accounts are private, but this doesn't matter as they will receive the message anyway.

Now, let's talk the numbers game. It is what I aimed for. I said to myself - the more the better, and if you have a large audience, there will still be someone who buys

Out of 1,000 DMs, I don't know how many of them replied. Some indians replied things like ''hello, what is your name?'' or ''hey, how are you?'' and other random things. Then, the more interested people replied on subject, where we would talk about what I got and what they got. There is also a woman who is interested and says will buy it later, but I don't trust these kind of sales to be honest.

1,000 DMs -> 87 hops -> 8.7% click rate. I don't know if this is a good or bad rate, let me know in your replies.
87 hops -> 1 sale with 9 order form impressions -> 1.20% conversion rate

So, technically this is both good and bad.
It's good because it's 1 guaranteed sale/1,000DMs (with more on the way, who knows who will open my DM 2-3 days from now).
It's bad because it's only $9.27/sale. Way too little for the effort you put in, sending 1,000 DMs everyday.
But, this meets my requirements -> $9.27/day x 28 days = $259/month.

I did this for only one day. Tommorow, I will do it again and try to do it everyday. If one of the accounts gets action blocked or suspended, I will create many others to switch to.
I would like to hear your suggestions down below. Maybe personalise the message more? Create a landing page? I just want to keep it simple. Thanks!

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Respect for the hustle. Maybe, rather than 1 offer, get 3 or 4 similar ones. It may look less spammy to IG if you send different links rather than always the same one. Plus, you can get a feeling of what converts better by comparing them. If you will go this route, I would suggest you to pickup a little bit of autohotkey. You can make custom hotkeys and have 5-6 different messages to spam. The more variety, the less spammy, I think. You can even have 1 hotkey that rotates between a pool of messages if you feel fancy.

Edit: I forgot to say it, but with autohotkey you can make it so, rather than pasting a comment, it sends a signal of pressing each key. A little bit slower, but more real.
 
Good luck mate!

Thank you!

Respect for the hustle. Maybe, rather than 1 offer, get 3 or 4 similar ones. It may look less spammy to IG if you send different links rather than always the same one. Plus, you can get a feeling of what converts better by comparing them. If you will go this route, I would suggest you to pickup a little bit of autohotkey. You can make custom hotkeys and have 5-6 different messages to spam. The more variety, the less spammy, I think. You can even have 1 hotkey that rotates between a pool of messages if you feel fancy.

Edit: I forgot to say it, but with autohotkey you can make it so, rather than pasting a comment, it sends a signal of pressing each key. A little bit slower, but more real.

Thanks for the tip! The program seems a little too complicated for me. Also, this is for PC and sending DMs on PC takes 10 times longer to do.
I will still promote this offer, but modify the message a little and change the link.
Another day with 1,000 DMs, will keep you updated!
 
Thank you!



Thanks for the tip! The program seems a little too complicated for me. Also, this is for PC and sending DMs on PC takes 10 times longer to do.
I will still promote this offer, but modify the message a little and change the link.
Another day with 1,000 DMs, will keep you updated!
Cool. Just to be clear, it's not a program, it's a programming language for pc. And it's really easy to use, plus it has a helpful community on discord. But I understand that picking up stuff out of your comfort zone is always a pain haha.
 
That's crazy how you are able to send 1000 DM's with just 2 accounts...

Perhaps you should try automating the process? I remember seeing some SMM panel offering this as a service a while ago, I think 100k DM's was 300$ (?) - can't remember their name though. But since they sell it in that high quantities, that means they have a way to automate it successfully.
 
Compared to usual clickbait stuff related to get rich schemes, Spirituality is a decent niche. I'm amazed that you're able to send 1K DMs without any complex activity. Use spintax and experimental with different links.
 
Well done, thanks for sharing I appreciate threads like yours.
It's great that with just 3 accounts you were able to send 1k DMs, can you say something more about those accounts, you warmed them up a lot during these 3 months or something? :O
You created them by yourself or bought them?

Imagine if you could automate sending DMs, and with 30 accounts you can send 10k DMs = 100$ per day | 90 accounts 30k DMs = 300$ which is very nice :-)
 
Cool. Just to be clear, it's not a program, it's a programming language for pc. And it's really easy to use, plus it has a helpful community on discord. But I understand that picking up stuff out of your comfort zone is always a pain haha.

Yeah I am not into programming and coding, it's too much for me and it's not even worth it trying to send DMs from the PC because it takes 10 times longer to do it.

That's crazy how you are able to send 1000 DM's with just 2 accounts...

Perhaps you should try automating the process? I remember seeing some SMM panel offering this as a service a while ago, I think 100k DM's was 300$ (?) - can't remember their name though. But since they sell it in that high quantities, that means they have a way to automate it successfully.

If you have time, you have money. I don't want to spend anything on ads, paid traffic, and promotions. I have enough time and patience to send these DMs, so it's ok like that.

Compared to usual clickbait stuff related to getting rich schemes, Spirituality is a decent niche. I'm amazed that you're able to send 1K DMs without any complex activity. Use spintax and experimental with different links.

What is spintax? I've never heard of it.
It's a good niche indeed, way better than weight loss or woodworking.

Well done, thanks for sharing I appreciate threads like yours.
It's great that with just 3 accounts you were able to send 1k DMs, can you say something more about those accounts, you warmed them up a lot during these 3 months or something? :O
You created them by yourself or bought them?

Imagine if you could automate sending DMs, and with 30 accounts you can send 10k DMs = 100$ per day | 90 accounts 30k DMs = 300$ which is very nice :)

I just created them with the goal of growing them and then selling them. However, I abandoned that project. They don't even have 200 followers, I am still wondering why I can send so many DMs.
I don't want to automate any process because Instagram might ban me.

Just sent 200 DMs in the last 30 minutes, currently no clicks and one reply.
 
So I wanted to update you all on this journey.
I managed to hire 2 more people and we were sending something like 1,800-2,000 DMs every day and I paid them for DM sent.
Everything went perfect until we all got limited to 20 DMs/day. Neither of us could send more than 20 DMs in 24 hours, and from 2,000/day total, we were doing 60/day total.

However, I never had so many sales before. I know this method works. You can forget about email campaigns, Facebook ads, or blog building for 3 years. This is the best method I ever tried and these are the sales from 31.10 to 6.11

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Thing is, now with 60DM/s per day I barely get 10-20 hops. So after a day of griefing and being mad, I started to make my comeback.
If I am limited to 20 DM/s per day, that means, in order to send 1,000 DM/s per day I need 50 instagram accounts.
The big question is - where do I get 50 IG accounts and how do I manage them? I mention again that I don't need bots. I can manage it manually and forward them to my employees.
I saw some services selling bulk IG accounts but they are expensive and I don't really trust them. I started creating accounts by myself, but I can't even send a single DM with a new account and I don't know how much time it will take in order for an account to be able to send 20 DMs.

Another question is about Clickbank's payment system. I received money from them before, direct deposit into my bank account but by my calculations I should have received the money this wednesday yet I got nothing. I mention I have weekly payment and not bi-weekly, but there are some things about two weeks after the end of the pay period and some calendars that I don't understand even if I already looked for more details. Do they pay at the end of the month now? Every wednesday I used to receive a payment before.

Thank you all for following my journey! I am not giving up yet.
 
So I wanted to update you all on this journey.
I managed to hire 2 more people and we were sending something like 1,800-2,000 DMs every day and I paid them for DM sent.
Everything went perfect until we all got limited to 20 DMs/day. Neither of us could send more than 20 DMs in 24 hours, and from 2,000/day total, we were doing 60/day total.

However, I never had so many sales before. I know this method works. You can forget about email campaigns, Facebook ads, or blog building for 3 years. This is the best method I ever tried and these are the sales from 31.10 to 6.11

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Thing is, now with 60DM/s per day I barely get 10-20 hops. So after a day of griefing and being mad, I started to make my comeback.
If I am limited to 20 DM/s per day, that means, in order to send 1,000 DM/s per day I need 50 instagram accounts.
The big question is - where do I get 50 IG accounts and how do I manage them? I mention again that I don't need bots. I can manage it manually and forward them to my employees.
I saw some services selling bulk IG accounts but they are expensive and I don't really trust them. I started creating accounts by myself, but I can't even send a single DM with a new account and I don't know how much time it will take in order for an account to be able to send 20 DMs.

Another question is about Clickbank's payment system. I received money from them before, direct deposit into my bank account but by my calculations I should have received the money this wednesday yet I got nothing. I mention I have weekly payment and not bi-weekly, but there are some things about two weeks after the end of the pay period and some calendars that I don't understand even if I already looked for more details. Do they pay at the end of the month now? Every wednesday I used to receive a payment before.

Thank you all for following my journey! I am not giving up yet.

Hey man well i'm very impressed with the hard work you'r pulling, something you'r forgetting i bet you'r getting a good amount of following on the IG accounts as well that's also concidered a win.
Keep posting about the journey.

I'm thinking of doing the same as you with my personal touch i'll open a thread and post about it in the next days
and for the 50 IG i'm pretty sure you can create them manually you'r alraidy doing the hard work :p
plus if you'r really eager to use autohotkey to automate things you can when you pair the process with a software for mirorring your mobile phone, there's an open source solution called OpenSTF but if you don't know how to set it up you'll get a headache.
Keep it up
 
Another question is about Clickbank's payment system. I received money from them before, direct deposit into my bank account but by my calculations I should have received the money this wednesday yet I got nothing. I mention I have weekly payment and not bi-weekly, but there are some things about two weeks after the end of the pay period and some calendars that I don't understand even if I already looked for more details. Do they pay at the end of the month now? Every wednesday I used to receive a payment before.


Check your threshold in the settings first.
You can easily see when the next payout is on the "Paychecks" tab.


@Kama471 I wanted to send you a PM, but it's not possible.
Could you please send me a PM since I would like to discuss some things with you since I have something similar going on?
 
So I wanted to update you all on this journey.
I managed to hire 2 more people and we were sending something like 1,800-2,000 DMs every day and I paid them for DM sent.
Everything went perfect until we all got limited to 20 DMs/day. Neither of us could send more than 20 DMs in 24 hours, and from 2,000/day total, we were doing 60/day total.

However, I never had so many sales before. I know this method works. You can forget about email campaigns, Facebook ads, or blog building for 3 years. This is the best method I ever tried and these are the sales from 31.10 to 6.11

View attachment 151122

Thing is, now with 60DM/s per day I barely get 10-20 hops. So after a day of griefing and being mad, I started to make my comeback.
If I am limited to 20 DM/s per day, that means, in order to send 1,000 DM/s per day I need 50 instagram accounts.
The big question is - where do I get 50 IG accounts and how do I manage them? I mention again that I don't need bots. I can manage it manually and forward them to my employees.
I saw some services selling bulk IG accounts but they are expensive and I don't really trust them. I started creating accounts by myself, but I can't even send a single DM with a new account and I don't know how much time it will take in order for an account to be able to send 20 DMs.

Another question is about Clickbank's payment system. I received money from them before, direct deposit into my bank account but by my calculations I should have received the money this wednesday yet I got nothing. I mention I have weekly payment and not bi-weekly, but there are some things about two weeks after the end of the pay period and some calendars that I don't understand even if I already looked for more details. Do they pay at the end of the month now? Every wednesday I used to receive a payment before.

Thank you all for following my journey! I am not giving up yet.


How much were you paying the employees for dming ?
 
I be a IG noob too. But I not understand what you are doing wrong here.
But please correct me if I wrong, you can send (2022) 25 DM's per hour or 150 DM's a day on IG without get banned, so their actual rules.

So when you work within their rules you should not get ban.
And by the way for cold affiliate marketing from 150 DM's maybe 1-2% hopes on your link and will buy.

When you doing the other way around, having like 100- 200 followers on your IG account in your niche then doing 150 DM's every day to build your list, you will get much greater conversion rates like 8-10% or more.....

On social media many people fall when doing cold marketing on social media it not works this way, ok now in pandemic times the law allows cold email marketing you can make sales with this method but the price you pay is get lower conversion rates.

I hear some affiliate marketers have success with this method on pinterest and tumblr but honestly,doing this task manually also click on every niche related pinterest or tumblr site, then click on any email to send your message is very time consuming.

You will sit 10-12 hours a day in front of your desktop to click and send emails 100 on pinterest and 100 on tumblr and you not will be able to do other tasks on that day.

I look for an automation tool who can do this but not have found any yet in google search.

Are there free or cheap scripts who can do this task?
 
can you tell me a good free tool to send daily 150 DM messages on IG?
 
Kama471

you have this right;
"1,000 DMs -> 87 hops -> 8.7% click rate. I don't know if this is a good or bad rate, let me know in your replies.
87 hops -> 1 sale with 9 order form impressions -> 1.20% conversion rate"

So every IM marketer here in youtube on their blogs and whoever....wil tell you that a normal conversion rate on cold traffic will be like this; sending 100 DMs = 1 sale

You need 1000 Dms for 1 sale you I think you doing something wrong.
There are for my logical thinking three variables;

1) the product isnot high in demand
2) your DM message has not enough information and value
3) you not send your Dms to the right target audience

Now correct me if I wrong, Instagram allows you to send 150 DM a day for each account so use this legal frame or an social media tool to send more (if there are good tools exist).

But before you think about your numbers of DMs you send per day, first work on improve your DM message information and value then find the right target audience then you can send 150 Dms a day you should make 1 sale every day.

Then when you have improved this then you can promote products with higher commisssion than $100.
Why promoting low commission products?
 
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