What the hell is this COVID about?

bartosimpsonio said:
That's some crazy shit right there man.

Sorry.
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No probs bro, differences in opinion aren't the end of the world.

Out of curiosity though, which part of the last comment I made is crazy? Maybe you're onto something I'm missing about what I said.
 
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ExperimentalSEO said:
People with preexisting conditions don't matter, they need to just die off in order for people to not have to wear a mask or be able to go clubbing. /s
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That's so disingenuous though to say that the only people that have a contradictory viewpoint do so because they want to go clubbing.

Isn't it better to try to challenge your own opinions so that you can understand base reality as closely as possible instead of painting everyone that disagrees with you as stupid or selfish?

It doesn't have to be yourself and Bart disagreeing with me if we acknowledge the same data that we all share and then form logical opinions based on that.. we would come to the same end point, and whether my initial viewpoint is correct or yours is, it wouldn't matter at all.

Sounds like a much better way to communicate and discuss ideas seriously than ignoring what data and information doesn't correlate with your initial opinion. Just saying.
 
Guys, chill.

Humans are the viruses to Earth and corona is the cure. Period.
 
kvvni said:
So a whole-world quarantine would solve the pandemic?
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A whole-world strict lockdown and quarantine would definitely solve the pandemic, moreover it will eradicate the virus for good. 30 days, only one lousy month is all that's needed. Everyone stays home, the bare minimum of essential workers do their job by the book, implementing distancing and personal protective equipment whenever possible and dedicated teams for disinfection and social care service where needed are deployed in every town and village.

Will it happen? Not ever. There are too many jackasses in the world rebelling against wearing a mask, let alone other harsher measures and being jackasses will always do and say as they please, denying anything and everything that requires them to be socially responsible for even the tiniest amount of time, let alone one full effing month man.

So we are heading for 2-3 years of disastrous effect on the world economies, populous health status and millions of sufuring people instead. Congrats.
 
If only people could act socially responsible instead of heading into disaster...
 


Spain:



Sweden:



Not saying people shouldn't wear masks. I'm saying that this counteracts what you would expect to happen.

i.e. wouldn't it make more sense that Sweden would be seeing much larger COVID numbers consider they have been maskless for literally the whole pandemic? But that's not the case, so... just ignore that?
 
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AquaticGamer said:
Just let the evolutionary theory take place. Albeit on innocent people (but mostly on the retards).

I really hope those people not wearing masks or taking this seriously are the people that end up dying.
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Not 100% on that... I wear a mask (not the stupid curtain ones mines prob over the top for what it is, but I use them in work so might as well use them in the shop) anyway... the biggest thing I've started to see with masks now is the "false confidence" so people wear a mask but will not clean hands or social distance.

It's like all of a sudden since masks have been mandatory other things go out the window. I constantly see people taking a mask off put in pocket or bag then put it back on to go in another shop, take it off to talk, touch face, adjust the mask, lower it to talk on a phone, just have a mask over mouth, just have a mask over nose. All sorts...

I clean my hands before I put my mask on, and clean it before I take my mask off and then one final time after touching my mask. It's over kill I suppose but that's the only way to limit contact.

BIGGEST issue I got with masks is my 3M filters used to cost me sub £12 a pair now it's close to £45... I stocked up during August when the price dropped to £21 a pair still over priced.
 
t2van said:
Not 100% on that... I wear a mask (not the stupid curtain ones mines prob over the top for what it is, but I use them in work so might as well use them in the shop) anyway... the biggest thing I've started to see with masks now is the "false confidence" so people wear a mask but will not clean hands or social distance.

It's like all of a sudden since masks have been mandatory other things go out the window. I constantly see people taking a mask off put in pocket or bag then put it back on to go in another shop, take it off to talk, touch face, adjust the mask, lower it to talk on a phone, just have a mask over mouth, just have a mask over nose. All sorts...

I clean my hands before I put my mask on, and clean it before I take my mask off and then one final time after touching my mask. It's over kill I suppose but that's the only way to limit contact.

BIGGEST issue I got with masks is my 3M filters used to cost me sub £12 a pair now it's close to £45... I stocked up during August when the price dropped to £21 a pair still over priced.
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Yeah on "taking things seriously" includes the social distancing and all the other important aspects of keeping one safe.

The country I live in now has only single-digit cases daily with less than 3 community cases a day, also having 5+ million people in the population, because of strong mandates by the government to wear masks and people will actually get fined for not wearing them. This also includes people not being idiots and realizing suffering for a short while will benefit in the long run with issues that are currently being faced by other countries going back into lockdown while ours going through successful reopening.

So sick and tired of people not having the brain cells to think about others and only concern about themselves enjoying themselves going out clubbing and drinking while resulting in the demise of their own economy which ultimately leads to people blaming the government for their own dumb mistakes and their inability to listen.

This is a result of the PEOPLE and its something that can be controlled if not for selfish and ignorant inbreds.
 
kvvni said:
In my country, gyms and recreation areas are closing. Restaurants are closing. With the slightest protest, fines from several to several dozen euros.
There is huge propaganda on TV about what a bad disease it is. Doctors do not take. They don't heal. At all. Unless privately - you pay - they invites you, even without a mask.

Recent new restrictions = significant increase in infections.


Restaurants closed. A lot of people lose their jobs and their lives.

On Facebook? Same "haha" and "wrr" reactions. Nobody agrees with the government's decisions. Everyone knows there is a virus, a maximum of a few % negate it. But almost 100% doesn't agree with actual restrictions.

In our country:
- "it's ok at the moment, but it will be bad"
- "we have to do more tests"
- "it's bad"

MORE TESTS = MORE SICKNESS.


And now my questions (perhaps rhetorical) to you: Why only politicians think about a complete lockdown? Why only politicians suggest restrictions?
I'm not denying the virus. I am not a flat eater. I deny the idiotic behavior of governments almost everywhere in the world. This is fucked up.




And such a little bonus from me:
Playing on feelings is weak. You will write "I wish this would not happen to your family or to you". OKAY!
But there are many other, more dangerous diseases that can also affect us. This is not a reason to shut down hospitals, make a huge mess of old people watching TV, and shut down almost every branch of the economy.
Fortunately, people are starting to protest fiercely.
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Nearly every country got to many debts, easiest way to get rid off all the debts, is to ruin the people. Money is nothing worth and you can start again with nearly zero debts.
 
Winter is coming , as what WHO claim will have spike due to cold weather hmmmm
 
EduardsMarketing said:
I think this pandemic will have 3rd wave and it’s over. hope before everyone will be okay.
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This remind me of that kid who predict correctly about Covi19 , he never mention is virus, just that he predict 2020 will have a Big thing happen and affect the world .
He recent claim Dec and Next year Feb another big thing happen

he claim all these will over coming next year yearend .
 
coeuno said:
The virus is real for sure. Negationists are very unclever people.
Governements, all around the world, take right or bad decisions on how to try to constrain it....but 100% of responsability is not up to governments but up to people who act with no brain! Wear a mask and keep ditance is not to hard to understand!
People don't respect simple rules...government could act to save you if you do every stupid thing not to protect yourself own!
Virus is not cunning...people could be clever but they choose not to be like that!
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First, MASKS DON'T WORK. Social distancing and good hygiene help. Second, this virus has NOT been isolated. The CDC has buried this fact in their reports. There is NO ISOLATE, so what they have done is created an in vitro replication using the full base sequence released by China. How did China create a full base sequence? Good question!

I really want to reiterate MASKS DON'T WORK, at least not homemade cloth, surgical three layer ear loop style and there is no statistically significant evidence that N95 work, and that is according to decades of studies using medical professionals that know the proper way to use and handle masks. During the Spanish Flu the #1 cause of death was bacterial pneumonia....

The problem with people wearing homemade masks, or reused surgical (other than they don't protect against viruses), is they are getting sopping wet and are a breeding ground for bacteria and fungi. They can also concentrate rebreathed viral particles. The number one infection point for this virus is breathing passages (mouth and nose.) That's why it's important to not touch your face after touching contaminated surfaces. Watch people in public wearing these wet diaper masks. They're constantly fiddling with them, then TOUCHING EVERYING AROUND THEM.

In addition to masks' inability to prevent the spread of viruses, they have the negative effect of decreasing blood oxygen and increasing carbon dioxide. This puts stress on you heart and kidneys. There are many other potential hazards.

For those that will come at me for this. I could provide dozens of peer reviewed studies about the effectiveness of masks to prevent the spread of the flu virus, but I'll give this one link which references many sources https://www.sott.net/article/434796...rators-do-NOT-Prevent-Transmission-of-Viruses
 
Hubba said:
First, MASKS DON'T WORK. Social distancing and good hygiene help. Second, this virus has NOT been isolated. The CDC has buried this fact in their reports. There is NO ISOLATE, so what they have done is created an in vitro replication using the full base sequence released by China. How did China create a full base sequence? Good question!

I really want to reiterate MASKS DON'T WORK, at least not homemade cloth, surgical three layer ear loop style and there is no statistically significant evidence that N95 work, and that is according to decades of studies using medical professionals that know the proper way to use and handle masks. During the Spanish Flu the #1 cause of death was bacterial pneumonia....

The problem with people wearing homemade masks, or reused surgical (other than they don't protect against viruses), is they are getting sopping wet and are a breeding ground for bacteria and fungi. They can also concentrate rebreathed viral particles. The number one infection point for this virus is breathing passages (mouth and nose.) That's why it's important to not touch your face after touching contaminated surfaces. Watch people in public wearing these wet diaper masks. They're constantly fiddling with them, then TOUCHING EVERYING AROUND THEM.

In addition to masks' inability to prevent the spread of viruses, they have the negative effect of decreasing blood oxygen and increasing carbon dioxide. This puts stress on you heart and kidneys. There are many other potential hazards.

For those that will come at me for this. I could provide dozens of peer reviewed studies about the effectiveness of masks to prevent the spread of the flu virus, but I'll give this one link which references many sources https://www.sott.net/article/434796-The-Science-is-Conclusive-Masks-and-Respirators-do-NOT-Prevent-Transmission-of-Viruses
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talking about " cloth mask " Have to see, your comment on " home made mask " yes is true partly those doing it are not professional etc.
there is another type of " cloth mask , yes they call is useable mask, is from authorize so call been checked by professional , in the sense the production etc is clean, etc.

My country here the authority actually give every one cloth mask from authorise manufacture dealing with mask . I read the package , so call claim got 3 thin layer of protection layer whatever.

Nevertheless what u say is call social distance but this also hard to avoid. i only can say , go out if needed if you want to be super safe.
 
Spencen said:
The control group wore medial masks. This study simply says that cloth masks are ineffective, medical masks should be used instead. It does not promote not wearing masks.
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Some wore masks, some didn't (usual practice.) The fact remains that the cloth mask wearers statistically became ill more often. In the US most people are walking around with sopping wet cloth masks. It is my belief it is making people sicker and at the very least, does not protect against an airborne virus.
 
Hubba said:
Some wore masks, some didn't (usual practice.) The fact remains that the cloth mask wearers statistically became ill more often. In the US most people are walking around with sopping wet cloth masks. It is my belief it is making people sicker and at the very least, does not protect against an airborne virus.
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weird, but my country here we wear the cloth masks given by the authority so far " ok " beside some go buy themselves those surgical masks .
As mention that cloth masks we wearing is given by the Authority .
 
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