Bulk mail site combination?

[Bommie]

I've been told that, to be able to send mails in bulk while not setting up my own VPS server, I need to combine an SMTP relay service with a front end service.

So something like mailgun for the relay with mailwizz for front end and that's it. However, when I read up on mailwizz's website, they keep mentioning VPS programs like AWS. Do I really need them if I'm going to use mailwizz? I thought it was hosted online?

If not, is that all I need? Thanks.

 

[Sweely]

How many emails are you looking to send out?

 

[Bommie]

I currently have a list of 6,5k emails. My priority is getting those sent. Then, I would potentially have more if it works out.

 

[Bommie]

bump

 

[67MAD54]

Did you find anything suitable?

 

[Bommie]

Did you find anything suitable?

Yes. I'm using mailgun + mailwizz. But I have a problem, my campaigns are stuck at pending-sending. Cron jobs should be setup (the guy who set everything up managed to send his test campaign) but no matter what I do, my campaigns are just stuck at pending.

 

[67MAD54]

I had a guy on another website set me up something similar and I also had loads of trouble with it. I had SQL errors when uploading csv files, PHP limit problems when adding a template from MailWizz and for some reason my emails wouldn't come through to me.

The support he was offering was worthless to be honest. I lost patience after 2 weeks and give up.

 

[Bommie]

Well it was a fiverr guy I paid for. I will tip him now for the gig and ask him if he knows how to solve it. I'll hope that will do it

 

[67MAD54]

I also used a guy from Fiverr, waste of £50 he didnt have a clue himself

 

[Bommie]

OK so he fixed it. I now have a functional email delivery system. Only problem, it lands in spam or even worse - in ''all mail'' in gmail. I've got a 10/10 sender reputation and am using mailgun as smtp relay, it shouldn't be a problem. Maybe I need to warm up still?

 

[67MAD54]

Yeah I think most recommend a small amount to start with then build it up.

 

[67MAD54]

Im using mail250 with my own domain, it was easy to setup and verify and so far so good although my open rate was crap

 

[xcodes]

OK so he fixed it. I now have a functional email delivery system. Only problem, it lands in spam or even worse - in ''all mail'' in gmail. I've got a 10/10 sender reputation and am using mailgun as smtp relay, it shouldn't be a problem. Maybe I need to warm up still?

since your on mailgun for quicker warmup dont exceed more than 250 emails per hour on each mail network and watch our for spam or you will endup in loop warmup only.

Good luck.

 

[Bommie]

since your on mailgun for quicker warmup dont exceed more than 250 emails per hour on each mail network and watch our for spam or you will endup in loop warmup only.

Good luck.

How long do I need to warm up for? I thought the idea was that mailgun is a trusted sender and thus, will not need warmup. With warm up, I could have paid someone to set up my own SMTP server. What's the difference, really? But I will need to stick to my guns now (pun intended).

 

[xcodes]

How long do I need to warm up for? I thought the idea was that mailgun is a trusted sender and thus, will not need warmup. With warm up, I could have paid someone to set up my own SMTP server. What's the difference, really? But I will need to stick to my guns now (pun intended).

warmup is totally based on what your sending and as i told if your sending spam in warmup then its waste. For paid service you have to open thread in WTB or Hire Freelance sections.

Having your own SMTP server will save your money + no company terms.

Good luck.

 

[Bommie]

warmup is totally based on what your sending and as i told if your sending spam in warmup then its waste. For paid service you have to open thread in WTB or Hire Freelance sections.

Having your own SMTP server will save your money + no company terms.

Good luck.

Hmm but what do you mean if I'm sending spam in warmup, it's a waste? You mean if I get flagged a couple of times while warming up, I will never break the circle? Interesting. Wish I had known that. I was under the impression that inbox rate should be near 100% when sending with mailgun because mailgun is a trusted sender. I even have a 10/10 sender score. All this might have been for nothing but I will have to try.

 

[xcodes]

Getting 10 / 10 score is not big deal this days . Warmup stay safer and longer in the promotional path.

Good luck.

 

[Bommie]

Getting 10 / 10 score is not big deal this days . Warmup stay safer and longer in the promotional path.

Good luck.

A bit of a noob question, but who do you send to while warming up? I imagine you can't get away with sending to a few different email addresses. Is there like a service which takes emails and flags them as not spam? How does it work?

 

[Zapdron]

Use ses instead of mailgun. I failed getting my mails to Gmail inbox with mailgun, sendgrid and a smptp server. Only with ses it kind of works.

 

[hreyhrey]

I've successfully scraped and cold emailed thousands of people from high authority domains (IBM, Oracle, etc) with no negative spam or bans on a brand new fresh domain.

1) Use Amazon SES + Mautic (open source) to send email campaigns out
2) Use neverbounce to ensure you don't send bounced emails (SES will penalize you if you do)
3) Use mail-tester.com to ensure your score is high enough so you're not sending out pure spam

Doing those 3 things will ensure a very high delivery rate and if your content is relevant, maybe high sales.