Ranking Type Beats, Very Competitive

[qbofficial]

So a huge way to do this back almost a year ago was to buy around 1k-5k views on daily beat uploads. This would rank the video and some videos would get recommended by YouTube very well.
I have had some success doing this but being a college student I took time off doing it and lost all my traction.

I have had a few videos in which I bought 1k views and they get around 10k to 20k organic. This usually equates to a few beat purchases.

So my question is does the buying views method seem like it would work now a days? I have tons of beats scheduled for upload, should I buy 1k for each one?

Also Ive heard people saying invest around $100 dollars all in views to rank a type beat video can you can get a great return. Is this true?

Also can anyone recommend a good panel for cheap slow views for ranking?

Thanks

 

[slash47]

So a huge way to do this back almost a year ago was to buy around 1k-5k views on daily beat uploads. This would rank the video and some videos would get recommended by YouTube very well.
I have had some success doing this but being a college student I took time off doing it and lost all my traction.

I have had a few videos in which I bought 1k views and they get around 10k to 20k organic. This usually equates to a few beat purchases.

So my question is does the buying views method seem like it would work now a days? I have tons of beats scheduled for upload, should I buy 1k for each one?

Also Ive heard people saying invest around $100 dollars all in views to rank a type beat video can you can get a great return. Is this true?

Also can anyone recommend a good panel for cheap slow views for ranking?

Thanks

Hey there,

Music niche imo is pretty hard and competitve and that's normal because it's a very busy niche and there is high volume of daily uploads!

NO one here can tell you how much views you should buy, because each channel is different and results are not the same! also there is no ranking views this days because there are not HR views, smm panles sell medium retention views only, and the best you can get is from 1 to 2 minutes retention on short videos!

Also put on your mind that this days algorithm has changed a lot, now you need a high CTR on your thumbnails and a high watchtime and audience engagement to rank so buying views and going top 1 is not working anymore!

you should try and experiment and see what works for you mate!

Good luck.

 

[jasondenzer]

Hey there,

Music niche imo is pretty hard and competitve and that's normal because it's a very busy niche and there is high volume of daily uploads!

NO one here can tell you how much views you should buy, because each channel is different and results are not the same! also there is no ranking views this days because there are not HR views, smm panles sell medium retention views only, and the best you can get is from 1 to 2 minutes retention on short videos!

Also put on your mind that this days algorithm has changed a lot, now you need a high CTR on your thumbnails and a high watchtime and audience engagement to rank so buying views and going top 1 is not working anymore!

you should try and experiment and see what works for you mate!

Good luck.

Is there like any service that sells CTR-based views. Every single provider I've seen right here sells views that come from external traffic sources. They make little to no impact on rankings even the ones that delivered high retention.

 

[slash47]

Is there like any service that sells CTR-based views. Every single provider I've seen right here sells views that come from external traffic sources. They make little to no impact on rankings even the ones that delivered high retention.

There are no such a thing in the market right now, there used to be a dope views called NRV from @Cyberars , but they are not available anymore because of last year youtube update!

Still the views that are in the marketplace can help give a little boost but nothing special! your best bet is is to work on quality of content and try to build organic.

good luck

 

[Cyberars]

@slash47 is correct it's hard to do "magic" like in the past, but @qbofficial did you tried to play with livestreams instant ranking?
what did attract paying clients in the past? do they came from search results or suggested video on the same niche?

 

[jasondenzer]

There are no such a thing in the market right now, there used to be a dope views called NRV from @Cyberars , but they are not available anymore because of last year youtube update!

Still the views that are in the marketplace can help give a little boost but nothing special! your best bet is is to work on quality of content and try to build organic.

good luck

Honestly, I have made some videos that just randomly blew up even though I put in hardly any effort. And then there are videos that hardly get any views even though I put in a lot effort perfecting it. The views give a little boost but you're right it doesn't make enough of an impact to generate a lot of organic impressions which could possibly lead to more views and thus YT's algorithm to promote it more. I mean some people like to click a video more often due to high viewcounts but still, YT's homepage is not gonna promote a video more often if you simply bought those HR views.

Also, what are NRV views? What does that mean?

 

[qbofficial]

@slash47 is correct it's hard to do "magic" like in the past, but @qbofficial did you tried to play with livestreams instant ranking?
what did attract paying clients in the past? do they came from search results or suggested video on the same niche?

Here is the analytics for the best video on my channel. Sitting at around 18k views. I had bought 1k views on this video on the publish date. Interesting part is I forgot to ad tags to this video. So there are no tags. This video has earned me around 5 sales equaling around $600 dollars.
If I could replicate this at all I would eventually be doing great. It says this video has generated around +100 subscribers too.

 

[XspekulaX]

I am beatmaker as well. And this has been the golden question for me.

I tried for a couple of videos to buy views for them to rank up but did not work.

When I read about all this, the only thing that still coming back is "consistency" , yes, that fancy word that we all hate.

Other than that, the beatmaking industry is so so so competitive especially when it comest to ranking with specific keywords.

Any tip would help. Following this thread.

Thanks

 

[slash47]

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Here is the analytics for the best video on my channel. Sitting at around 18k views. I had bought 1k views on this video on the publish date. Interesting part is I forgot to ad tags to this video. So there are no tags. This video has earned me around 5 sales equaling around $600 dollars.
If I could replicate this at all I would eventually be doing great. It says this video has generated around +100 subscribers too.

A lot of people had success with videos that have no tags or very less it's quite interesting, but that doesn't mean it will work all time!

I think that in order to get in the recommendations it's a mix of a lot of things, high watchtime and subs and social signals and organic engagement and good CTR and many other things probably that we don't know about!

If it was easy everybody would be ranking and banking by just buying views and likes and some shares, which is not the case!

youtube is updating regulary, even if something works this week it can stop working in 2 weeks or something!

but do not get discouraged keep grinding.

best of luck

 

[Kyle Martinez]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdlbBrTTQoMRYTv83ohYjgQ

I watched this beat maker getting around 10-20k views on each uploaded video to over 1M on a lot of his videos.

He just samples old three 6 mafia lyrics onto trap phonk beats.

I was not even aware that "Phonk" 90's style beats were even still popular like they are.

I'm almost 100% certain hes dumped alot of money into his videos.

 

[slash47]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdlbBrTTQoMRYTv83ohYjgQ

I watched this beat maker getting around 10-20k views on each uploaded video to over 1M on a lot of his videos.

He just samples old three 6 mafia lyrics onto trap phonk beats.

I was not even aware that "Phonk" 90's style beats were even still popular like they are.

I'm almost 100% certain hes dumped alot of money into his videos.

Pretty possible, a lot this days dump a high volume of views in a video upload in hope to trigger the algorithm in their favor, but nothing is sure and it's a risk to take!

 

[Kyle Martinez]

Pretty possible, a lot this days dump a high volume of views in a video upload in hope to trigger the algorithm in their favor, but nothing is sure and it's a risk to take!

well he for sure managed it!

His traffic has grown on soundcloud, spotify, apple music, ESPECIALLY youtube...... its crazy how some guys just slap youtube back in the face and WIN

 

[tigertigertiger]

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Here is the analytics for the best video on my channel. Sitting at around 18k views. I had bought 1k views on this video on the publish date. Interesting part is I forgot to ad tags to this video. So there are no tags. This video has earned me around 5 sales equaling around $600 dollars.
If I could replicate this at all I would eventually be doing great. It says this video has generated around +100 subscribers too.

Sorry man, but do I understand it correctly, you sell music beats? How can 13k views generate 600 dollars in revenue? Do people buy beads for 100 dollars?

 

[Kyle Martinez]

Sorry man, but do I understand it correctly, you sell music beats? How can 13k views generate 600 dollars in revenue? Do people buy beads for 100 dollars?

beats can easily go for $100+ dollars..... who would be stupid enough to buy that when there are BIG producers out there who offer FREE beats??... is beyond me. but yes idiots will spend big money on beats.

 

[tigertigertiger]

Lol this is blowing my mind. I mean there are literally hundreds of thousands free beads. And even if you want this specific bead, just take it, as if a small producer would get into a law suite with you

 

[Leader777]

Lol this is blowing my mind. I mean there are literally hundreds of thousands free beads. And even if you want this specific bead, just take it, as if a small producer would get into a law suite with you

Not when you have your beats copyrighted by a distributor

 

[slash47]

Lol this is blowing my mind. I mean there are literally hundreds of thousands free beads. And even if you want this specific bead, just take it, as if a small producer would get into a law suite with you

Your ignorance is unbelievable and it's called "beats" not bead x) and you would be shocked about how much money producers make of beats!

also mister just take it, note that as @Razen666 said this days a lot of beats are copyrighted by a distributors, so a license will allow you to monetize using that particular music

 

[slash47]

well he for sure managed it!

His traffic has grown on soundcloud, spotify, apple music, ESPECIALLY youtube...... its crazy how some guys just slap youtube back in the face and WIN

There is a lot of luck when it comes to the youtube algorithm,but it's not just music related, it happens in all other niches too.

 

[XspekulaX]

I think it has to do mostly with keywords ranking. Hence, how many times the user used the keyword and for how long. The number of comments, likes and views within the first hours of upload etc..

Takes a lot of work.

 

[Kyle Martinez]

Your ignorance is unbelievable and it's called "beats" not bead x) and you would be shocked about how much money producers make of beats!

also mister just take it, note that as @Razen666 said this days a lot of beats are copyrighted by a distributors, so a license will allow you to monetize using that particular music

I know exactly how much alot of yall make. And there is no getting around that a talented producer can make $600 a month off a few beats sold that are decent. But a lot of people dont understand out there either that "retnik beats" "Treetime" "Cashmoneyapp" "dj FLIPP" "LXST CXNTURY" "Casok" ETC all well known producers give away FIRE FREE beats lmao